| # taz.de -- Rock icon Nannini about „Amore Gigante“: „Italy needs a woman… | |
| > She's a rebel-rockstar, a feminist, a doctor of philosophy. Italian | |
| > musician Gianna Nannini about her new album against hatred, her | |
| > pansexuality and #MeToo. | |
| Bild: „Unfortunately, in my job prostitution was a standard situation of wome… | |
| taz: Gianna Nannini, you're famous for your Rock'n' Soul roar – you've got | |
| the voice of a big lady tiger but in some of your love songs you suddenly | |
| sound like a very fragile tiger. | |
| Gianna Nannini: I'm a tigre fragile? (Laughs) That's nice … | |
| When we really mean it, love makes us strong and fragile, doesn't it? | |
| Yes. But I also like this because I think ‚fragility‘ is a Rock expression. | |
| In a way, the weak point in a human being is also the strongest. Sometimes | |
| when you write songs it makes no sense to hide your weak point. | |
| You made a world career in your mother tongue, in Italian. | |
| Why always sing in English? You see, Europe itself is fragile in this | |
| language respect. It's very difficult to hit the emotion just right in a | |
| language that's not your own. In Italian we come more from the roots of the | |
| folk tradition. That's another reason why I got to this point of only | |
| singing in italiano. The song is much better in Italian because we use more | |
| vowels in our language. | |
| You yourself became famous for being this Italian feminist rebel with a | |
| giant voice, a big heart and lots of courage. But it wasn't always easy, | |
| was it? | |
| When I was 18, I wanted to escape from home and my home town Siena. So I | |
| went to Milano. For my music. I also worked to help some patients in mental | |
| hospitals but we soon discovered that we had more problems than the people | |
| in the hospital! (Laughs) It was always my dream to work in psychology. On | |
| my first album I dedicated a song to a woman who was in a psychiatric | |
| hospital. We had a big anti-psychiatric movement in Italy in the 70ies. Do | |
| you know Franco Basaglia? | |
| I do! Basaglia fought to open the asylums. But, you know what, today we are | |
| going backwards, now psychiatrists are even promoting electroshocks again | |
| in Germany. | |
| What? No! | |
| They call it „electroconvulsive therapy“. You should do a new version of | |
| your song „Scandalo!“ | |
| I will sing „Scandalo“ on my new tour, yes, but I really didn't know that | |
| electroshocks are again practised in Germany – today. That's terrible! In | |
| 2016 I wrote a book that has not been translated yet. It's called „Cazzi | |
| miei“ like „Here's my own shit“. The book explains what happened to me in | |
| 1979 when I was recording in Cologne: I went out of my mind. Really. With | |
| the help of a lot of people I came out of my problems but it was quite | |
| heavy, it was very difficult to come back. And it was a big experience. But | |
| if I had been sent to a normal psychiatric place at the time – I would have | |
| been probably given electro shocks. (Pause) Anyway … What else would you | |
| like to know about me? | |
| You call yourself pansexual. | |
| I don't want this branding of homosexual or heterosexual. The word | |
| pansexual just means all kinds, all types of love. We have heterosexism, | |
| ageism – the world is full of these prison words. Words can imprison you! | |
| For me pansexual is so big that you cannot touch it. You can't put it in | |
| one corner. Don't ever put love in a corner! Because if you do, with your | |
| words, you corner real people – you divide. | |
| Janis Joplin was one of your biggest inspirations and you once said that | |
| you would have loved to save her because everybody jumped on her drug abuse | |
| but she was not appreciated as a singer as much as she deserves. | |
| She wasn't appreciated enough as a musician! If we say she's a singer, we | |
| talk about her as an interpreter. But we should fully value her as a | |
| musician and as an author. For the poetry she wrote. | |
| You wrote about Janis in your thesis in philosophy and music about the | |
| relationship between the voice and the body in female cultures, didn't you? | |
| Yes, Rock music was one example and I took Janis Joplin. I worked on | |
| several ethnic cultures: Nepal, Napoli, Morocco, Mali and Senegal. I | |
| basically tried to find out how the gesturality of the movement influences | |
| the singing. You need to be fit to be sure of your voice, you need to be | |
| your body. I do a lot of sports but there's a big difference whether you do | |
| sports or a tribal dance! I analysed the movements of Janis Joplin in a | |
| tribal context. Remember „Cry baby“? Listen: Tryyyyiiyyeieieiyyy. | |
| Wow, you really sound like Janis's sister! | |
| The drama was influenced by her voice, of course, but she moved all parts | |
| of her body – she gave action to the sound. And this action made her sing | |
| with a different attitude. It's very important to come back to your own | |
| culture to understand how you can move. | |
| „Amore Gigante“, the title song of your new album, could be the headline | |
| for all of your music. | |
| Well, we are living in a situation where hate and the haters are growing | |
| big again. „Amore gigante“ is talking about this big chance we still have �… | |
| we can be on the same planet with all our different colours! Have respect | |
| for all people of the world! We don't have to go for this racism, sexism, | |
| this homophobic place. The spirit of „Amore Gigante“ wants to stop this | |
| fight of one against the other. It must happen in our mind. Open your mind! | |
| Freedom of spirit – that's our chance! | |
| The mindset in international politics is currently closing down on freedom. | |
| What do you expect from the Italian elections? | |
| Too much marketing, like in my song: [1][bla, bla, bla] … We don't have a | |
| real political culture at the moment. I think Italy needs a woman – just to | |
| change this political culture! We need a change of vision. We have to | |
| understand that no culture is better than any other! Look, I went to Iraq . | |
| At the time of the war, because I wanted to know the truth. And I saw the | |
| truth: It was a war to make business, a war about oil and petrol, which | |
| killed people and the culture. | |
| You supported some Iraqi artists, didn't you? | |
| Yes. See, all the museums and artist places were destroyed in the war. All | |
| the universities were burning and I said: Why are they burning all the | |
| books?! The children have nothing to study! So we went back to Italy and | |
| collected some books and computers to help at least a little. | |
| And then you fell in love with the desert. | |
| It's so peaceful in the desert … I was in Iraq twice during the war, but in | |
| the desert I felt at peace. | |
| In your autobiography you wrote that people told you at the beginning of | |
| your career: You have to jump into bed with a good producer, sorry, but | |
| that's the way it goes. And you said: ‚No way! My grandmother told me not | |
| to do this!‘ Today, 40 years later, we finally have a #MeToo campaign. | |
| In my job prostitution was a standard situation of women during the last | |
| decades. Now it's different but sometimes women are still stuck. It's so | |
| important to understand that you must not be afraid! I personally think | |
| women always have to decide for themselves. If you want to sell yourself … | |
| sell yourself! But the woman herself has to decide. | |
| 28 Feb 2018 | |
| ## LINKS | |
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJTUxrSNYa4 | |
| ## AUTOREN | |
| Gaby Sohl | |
| ## TAGS | |
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| Schwerpunkt #metoo | |
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| Sexuelle Freiheit | |
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| Psychiatrie | |
| Schwerpunkt #metoo | |
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