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I am once again asking German software developers and designers to stop transla… |
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This causes me such a severe episode of eyerolling that it ends up as a cringe … |
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Sometimes I'm happy that I grew up in a place where we only picked American… |
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I'm literally trying to sign up to my gym's mobile app and I'm edgi… |
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@Lemmus And I've seen both used for column names in the same customer datab… |
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Post #AwxIvCYrEc8poY3vIu by [email protected] |
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@alda German Dev here: Someone in my department, a long time ago, had to split … |
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Post #AwxIw8oodRMwUpyUEK by [email protected] |
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@alda pedantry corner: also the Philippines for some reason!but yes, it’s a t… |
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Post #AwxIw8uqH2BonWnIci by [email protected] |
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@Gaelan Former US territory. A lot of colonial powers did implement their syste… |
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@datenhalde As a foreign resident in Germany, I'd prefer things being in Ge… |
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Post #AwxJ7yslP6en9dT0Hw by [email protected] |
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@alda that's interesting, a trap I stepped in myself a number of times. Pos… |
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Post #AwxJFmKnwL4qYTIiYK by [email protected] |
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@thet I am not a native speaker and I am not looking for a solution to a proble… |
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Post #AwxJdJPt6l3VojtsXI by [email protected] |
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@alda They're not the only ones... the translation engines will do it too. … |
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Post #AwxJdJXgdlIICvY6gy by [email protected] |
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@stonebear2 you see, they do it on the backend and in the databases too, to the… |
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Post #AwxJtJIPKAV84o1ubI by [email protected] |
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@alda Admittedly does anyone use the term postal code outside the UK and its fo… |
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Post #AwxJzQwDp8XnW2ZYmG by [email protected] |
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@oliverboehme or even assume they follow or don't cross administrative boun… |
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Post #AwxKFOzeozX67NnHZw by [email protected] |
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@mountainroot that's literally the UPU recognised collective term used arou… |
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Post #AwxKJd3cTSNUtXf984 by [email protected] |
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@alda You can actually localize including variants, i.e. en_US “zip code”, … |
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@forthy42 it's not just the American word for "postal code", but … |
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@alda what is the difference between a ZIP code and a postal code? |
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Post #AwxKzjZmcyvFH6mgca by [email protected] |
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@Lemmus @paavi those things are all sorts of "fun" and it really requ… |
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Post #AwxLJkZKe8wS957LiC by [email protected] |
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@alda What difference does it make? |
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Post #AwxLLDkpcZD8x6CJlo by [email protected] |
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@0Sekhmet0 Zip Codes are not just the US English word for postal codes. Using t… |
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@alda When I prepared to apply to my first senior developer position in English… |
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Post #AwxLer1Zq8j4FSONKi by [email protected] |
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@mountainroot @alda Yes. |
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@mountainroot @alda Though UPU uses the term postcode. But check most continent… |
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Post #AwxLerEh3NDYu8WqmG by [email protected] |
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@paavi @mountainroot ah, you see, The Postcode is the UPU's collection of e… |
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@mountainroot @alda deutschepost.de -> postcodeposti.fi -> postal codeNei… |
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@paavi @mountainroot I have weird hobbies: https://www.upu.int/en/postal-soluti… |
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Post #AwxM11AymEea6VMHkO by [email protected] |
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@alda They probably used a US-based translation-AI.I only use DeepL.com when I … |
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Post #AwxMH7yRGrD7ouAsOe by [email protected] |
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@aldaWant to use a “zip code”?Just zip it.(Which is a nice way of saying ST… |
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Post #AwxMIsI0YX2HksA1tQ by [email protected] |
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@Lemmus @paavi @aldaWhy do people assume that all id numbers are actually numer… |
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@X31Andy @Lemmus @alda No idea, but could it be that in the EU and somewhere el… |
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@paavi @X31Andy @Lemmus As an Icelander it can be really difficult to explain i… |
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@alda @mountainroot Yes, but even the postal services often use the postcode as… |
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@alda Wow, I didn't know that. Will change that in the future. Promise! |
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Post #AwxMWfTwyDcA5VK8i8 by [email protected] |
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@X31Andy @Lemmus @paavi Also, even postal codes may have spaces, slashes and da… |
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Post #AwxMl54KdUJzUwDItk by [email protected] |
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@forthy42 and to top things off, if you are only conducting business in the DAC… |
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@alda @mountainroot But but, that's POST*CODE®, not postcode! :D |
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Post #AwxN9JbaF3NjX1K4G0 by [email protected] |
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@Lemmus @paavi @alda as a Spaniard I'd be confused if a web/app asks for SS… |
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Post #AwxN9JhxrKUBqoJACe by [email protected] |
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@daniel_gonzalez @Lemmus @paavi and even the American SSN was never intended to… |
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@alda @9Lukas5 why care about US problems if US does not care about EU problems… |
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@alda @mountainroot Since Finlands coding is five numbers, I should be forgiven… |
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@paavi @mountainroot And this is why you store addresses as a single block of t… |
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@Paragone I've been working in Germany as a software developer for the past… |
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Post #AwxO8Yx9nDkWnTcPXU by [email protected] |
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@canleaf and this is why I try my best to do things via self-service and online… |
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Post #AwxO9pXLcX2qWJ9PmK by [email protected] |
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@alda Also: Please do not assume that they are numerical. Ours aren't |
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@canleaf but yeah, rigidly following the process as set by someone in a rigid r… |
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Post #AwxOLW8FaokfoPz6oa by [email protected] |
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@alda Here is a lot of other zip codes: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-ZipSCNR, gr… |
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@jay_peper Sorry. They are three digit integers or my form will throw a validat… |
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Post #AwxOWxehbMzAMNcXKa by [email protected] |
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@alda It’s the same in Sweden. |
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@theyoctojester I'm happy for you. |
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@alda translating a non-numerical postal code to PLZ is also a strange quirk: h… |
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@alda @paavi @Lemmus Problem is most people don't understand the difference… |
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@oldladyplays better yet, hire a non-native speaker because we're careful a… |
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@X31Andy @paavi @Lemmus And then the tea-drinking esoteric tradwives are going … |
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Post #AwxPCMwWULVUf0hVzs by [email protected] |
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@andreas_gay @alda Did you even get the point of the post? 🧐 |
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@9Lukas5 @alda It's the same issue with US software expecting phone number … |
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@jay_peper Still more honest than Zip if you've never even taken customers … |
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@alda as a native English speaking software engineer in Germany, I feel your pa… |
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Post #AwxQ0dJdt9TNv3Tyds by [email protected] |
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@alda That does seem like a pretty good reason to use postal code! |
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Post #AwxQSTKib5tP4DGCwq by [email protected] |
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@mountainroot Not that I've ever used UK-specific terminology and spelling … |
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Post #AwxQsSYw5LUeCpIoGu by [email protected] |
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@Lemmus @mossman @BenAveling @X31Andy @paavi administrative and regional set th… |
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Post #AwxS0IRtfefn6tJKSG by [email protected] |
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@andreas_gay Yeah, but the initial post said _not_ to respect US specialties an… |
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@9Lukas5 the terms are exchangeable for most persons, developers and users. It… |
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@andreas_gay Great, so if it's interchangeable anyways, why even bother tel… |
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@9Lukas5 I am pissed by the original wording and tone...requesting something fr… |
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Post #AwxSbm7MKH7nqBZk5w by [email protected] |
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@aldaHonest question of a non-native speaker:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIP_… |
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@alda All zip codes should begin with YKK |
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@alda I never really thought about that.. but thank you, I will never name a va… |
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@alda Reminds me of Microsoft localising every instance of “zip” to “post… |
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@tcurdt perhaps you should read the comments that are already on the thread bef… |
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@DrinkyBird IIS Personal Edition was included with the Icelandic translation of… |
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@alda I did - that's why I am asking. |
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@alda @Lemmus I ran into this once in an annoying situation – not SSNs but ph… |
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@AMonkeyInSilk That's exactly right! |
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@tomw @Lemmus a long time ago, I heard a story from someone who used to work on… |
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@benny Thank you. I'm happy we don't share an office. |
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Post #AwxWNgsFQPSxL92xYu by [email protected] |
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@alda @datenhalde A long time ago i read the word "Netzstöberer" in … |
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@yetzt @datenhalde At this point, German is just a grammatical framework for En… |
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@Lemmus @datenhalde Which reminds me of how some genius American didn't rea… |
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@alda Since the US wants to burn bridges and hates trade with everyone, can we … |
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@benny Because I would literally turn in my resignation notice if your argument… |
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@alda @paavi @X31Andy @Lemmus The UK changed from alpha numeric health id codes… |
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@alda heh. I once arrived to a meeting about an hour late in Munich because, wo… |
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@alda Another one I hate seeing is ‘license plate’ - in Australia, the UK a… |
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@stephengentle Yeah and just like there's a difference between ZIP codes an… |
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@Lemmus @alda are they even numbers? Or a mix of alphanumeric symbols. |
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@Lemmus @ColmDonoghue I'm sure that calling it a "code" would fre… |
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@mountainroot @alda presumably, as the UK term is postcode. |
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@alda I'll bet the real reason is because the rest of the world has long si… |
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@benjohn Then there's postal codes that don't indicate a specific area … |
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@alda OMG! Uk PCs seem to usually be a few dozens of buildings, I think? Perhap… |
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@gainfullydozy It's also the assumption that the default English locale use… |
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@alda @Lemmus In Ireland we have 3 seperate IDs with each having seperate "… |
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If every id you’ve ever seen is numeric, why wouldn’t you assume that all i… |
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@thet @alda I'd not be too sure about the observation that more people nati… |
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@alda @mountainroot We don't really use it in the UK - the usual term is &#… |
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@Lemmus @alda I am afraid even that isn't universal. |
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@alda I first read about the term "zip code" a long time ago, in an a… |
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@benjohn There's a whole lot of quirks and exceptions in any mail routing s… |
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@geert Yikes! Not the best topic for having a bad translation for! |
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@ColmDonoghue @Lemmus What if you move to Germany, have your driver's licen… |
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@yetzt @datenhalde Kein Weltraum links vom Gerät. |
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@alda Localization of addresses is crazy. There are so many different ways of r… |
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@alda Yep. That's annoying. But then so are the - usually German - sites t… |
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@pa27 Germans love spending countless development hours on overvalidating form … |
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@alda @Lemmus What the actual fuck? Are they not taught to prepare for eventual… |
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@Johns_priv @Lemmus Ethnocentrism runs rampant in the software industry and it&… |
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@alda Growing up in NRW with British troops in town, of course we all learned B… |
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@alda alles klar. Wird gemacht! ,🫡 |
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@alda They are indeed zip codes in the US. |
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@alda I'm in the US and prefer Postal Codes. What the fuck is a Zip? |
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@phillycodehound I think it's what they call the fly in Chip and Dale Rescu… |
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@alda Yea probably! |
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@stephengentle @aldaAnd certainly in the UK we don't have a 'license… |
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@MikeFromLFE @stephengentle next you'll yell me you have tyres but not tire… |
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Additional tip: If the software was developed for Germany and checks if the inp… |
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@Anke You're making it sound so easy. |
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@LemmusIn similar vein, so putting 'City' as a compulsory field in addr… |
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@pthane @Lemmus a lot of "cities" in the US are in fact unincorporate… |
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@tomw @alda @Lemmus The Apple Store website likes to do that. You order somethi… |
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@mbirth @tomw @Lemmus Fun fact: The apple.com storefront or some related intern… |
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@alda Or in Australia, we just say "post code"I've lived 48 years… |
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@alda DeepL: |
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@aldaGas pump in USA: "to buy gas, please enter your zip code"Me (Can… |
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@alda @X31Andy @paavi @Lemmus @TundraWolf To be fair, the last time the UK trie… |
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@alda oh ugh. Let me guess, they made the field a NUMBER.... |
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@alda I learnt not to do that as a FIRST YEAR. If you're not COUNTING it... |
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@paavi @X31Andy @Lemmus @alda And here in Brazil, the CNPJ (ID number for compa… |
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@Lemmus @alda The SSN wasn't even supposed to be an ID number. It wouldn&#… |
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@aldaSo not really cities? @Lemmus |
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@Lemmus @alda this might be a cultural misunderstanding. I am not 100% sure abo… |
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@chloeraccoon @alda @paavi @Lemmus @TundraWolf You must be a secret cat and wil… |
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@tiggy @alda @paavi @X31Andy @Lemmus I thought there were two different ones? T… |
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@derickr @alda @paavi @X31Andy @Lemmus The NHS is separate, this the one that u… |
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@alda Easiest method is dropping the check ;P |
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@pa27That happens in the UK too especially in rural areas. Our previous house w… |
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@LordCaramac @alda as a systems administrator the only ZIP I am familiar with i… |
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I use to call those CSNs. Citizen surveillance numbers.@Lemmus @alda |
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@alda @tomw @Lemmus Seems like they take "Never change a running system&qu… |
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@pthane @alda @Lemmus "City" then refers to the postal zone. I live i… |
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@c_merriweatherIt's a problem outside the US though. You might know that &#… |
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@pthane @alda @Lemmus I wish they would drop the "city/state" altoget… |
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@alda ah yes, my zip code. The combination I have to enter to undo the fly on m… |
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@c_merriweather @pthane @Lemmus I can assure you it is not a unique American th… |
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@alda @pthane @Lemmus Glad to know that. |
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@aldahttps://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIP-Code#International |
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@alda german Computer science learns from the math side so i am not sure if the… |
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@alda @Lemmus couldn't find the legislation to see how an Irish drivers num… |
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@kleisli pinkie promise? |
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@alda in generally I don’t understand why Europeans (outside the British Isle… |
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@alda "its colonies"Uh... do cultural ones count? #SvenProblems |
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@alda funny thing, when outside the US on military bases, we referred to them a… |
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@alda Also, it's not "zip code" or even "Zip code". It&… |
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@alda USPS assigns zip codes to countries for international mail. afaict the fi… |
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@alda TIL! I am Danish, but I have also always used “zip code" instead o… |
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@alda While we're at it, "respectively" does not mean all the thi… |
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@alda Time for an annex to "things programmers get wrong about names"? |
