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Dear @creativecommons ,I read your article about your initiative for new licens… |
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@davidrevoy Looks like they have a wishy-washy page that speaks to some of that… |
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@ms_zwiebel @creativecommons Unfortunately, there is no mention of a 'no AI… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons ahhh i only read the post from them not the drafts… |
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@ms_zwiebel @creativecommons Yes, I'm curious to see how this draft will ev… |
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@ms_zwiebel In addition to what @davidrevoy said, NOAI is a problem because it&… |
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@Linebyline @davidrevoy uhhhhhh, i did not think about this...so we need AI tag… |
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@ms_zwiebel @davidrevoy To put it a bit more pithily: It's still assault ev… |
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@skobkin @davidrevoy You say that it's not how generative models work, and … |
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@skobkin @davidrevoy Your reasoning relies completely on assumptions that we ne… |
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@carl @davidrevoy @creativecommons this feels like"yes""ask me l… |
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@davidrevoy I would be happy if they just said: there were always clear rules. … |
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@davidrevoy Alternatively let’s apply the same to humans: allow me to build o… |
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@davidrevoy As long as certain countries allow to circumvent copyright for dtat… |
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@davidrevoy I'd love to pick your brains about this particular news. From w… |
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@doctormo Sure! But I think the four links on their Github https://github.com/c… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons "a new pact" wow take that Big Tech 😂 |
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@davidrevoy This thing, along with the IETF draft that it is built upon, seems … |
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@skobkin @untsuki You are human, your brain will only learn what you like. What… |
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@davidrevoy @untsuki @skobkin Additionally, I for one am perfectly willing to m… |
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@davidrevoy Heh, I notice one of the signals isn't "fuck off", bu… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons What a shame, creative commons. What would Aaron t… |
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@[email protected] The fact that there isn't a "no AI us… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons I agree with you, And you gotta excuse me for my l… |
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@Ray_Of_Sunlight @davidrevoy @creativecommons and then self yeet into the sun. |
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@davidrevoy @ms_zwiebel @creativecommons My understanding is `ai=n` would mean … |
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@skobkin @untsuki If the AI dataset has a CC-By input, the output is a derivati… |
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@ms_zwiebel @davidrevoy Exactly! The point of a license is to show what you *ar… |
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@Merovius @davidrevoy @ms_zwiebel @creativecommons so I read all this in light … |
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@f4grx @davidrevoy @creativecommons Hey, good idea |
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@skobkin @davidrevoy @untsuki > But that's not how generative models wor… |
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@Linebyline @ms_zwiebel I agree completely. The ideal would be to not have to o… |
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@deathkitten @creativecommons Yes, we clearly need a NOAI in the CC toolset of … |
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@davidrevoy @deathkitten @creativecommons +1, with the caveat that i’d prefer… |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] whenever a company w… |
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@lamb @davidrevoy @creativecommons There's an executive trying to find new … |
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@[email protected] I certainly wouldn't hold my breath of that actua… |
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@drikanis @davidrevoy @creativecommons Yeah, what we need is a way to prove tha… |
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@alxlg @drikanis @creativecommons https://haveibeentrained.com does a pretty go… |
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@breizh you don’t need NC for that.AI’s don’t attribute properly.The only… |
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@skobkin @davidrevoy From how I see it CC-BY licensed art is allowed for machin… |
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@davidrevoy you can use this NOAI license until someone makes a better one 😇… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons The people most affected are the experts here.We s… |
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@breizh @creativecommons @ArneBab True! |
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@davidrevoy @alxlg @drikanis @creativecommons This exploitation of artists from… |
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@skobkin @davidrevoy Of course, it's an open ended question and a philosoph… |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] cop… |
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@ArneBab @creativecommons Very true. I wish they could help creators and huge C… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons Seconding this, all of it. |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons I just read this and... I have no idea what they&#… |
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@knbrindle @creativecommons I think you understood the point correctly, immedia… |
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@skobkin In my final sentence, the 'right people' metaphor clearly refe… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons that's... sad. I totally support free culture … |
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@davidrevoy"Expanding copyright to control AI training risks stifling inno… |
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@davidrevoy"Expanding copyright to control AI training risks stifling inno… |
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Yep. I have a rant about that (and a link to the github issue pointing that ou… |
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@dgouttegattat at least the IETF draft allows you to specify that it shouldn… |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @creativecommons At first I thought that NOAI felt wrong a… |
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@gorobar The NOAI can still be useful -- because EU rules specify that artists … |
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@ArneBab @gorobar @davidrevoy @creativecommons "In other words, Art. 4 rig… |
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@skaphle It is ignored -- but that makes them liable for copyright infringement… |
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@Linebyline @ms_zwiebel @davidrevoy There is some flaw in your reasoning. Not o… |
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@Linebyline @davidrevoy @ms_zwiebel now what I cannot tell you is if such a exp… |
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@carl @davidrevoy @creativecommons @rick As I mentioned elsewhere in the thread… |
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@Merovius @carl @davidrevoy @creativecommons @rick if that’s the case, they m… |
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@janvhs @carl @davidrevoy @creativecommons @rick Yes, based on the general feed… |
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@ms_zwiebel @davidrevoy @creativecommons unless the concept of NOAI is the defa… |
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@stefan @davidrevoy @Linebyline @ms_zwiebel "How do I tell AI this. Its no… |
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@stefan @davidrevoy @Linebyline @ms_zwiebel This is a matter of legal principle… |
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@carl @davidrevoy @creativecommons One of them is Open: "only allow reuse … |
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@davidrevoy @ms_zwiebel @creativecommons Unfortunately, there is no mention of … |
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@Offbeatmammal @ms_zwiebel @davidrevoy @creativecommons It also requires a broa… |
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@r3vlibre I was specifically responding to the accusation that the CC design le… |
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Whoops. Discussion on the github pointed out to me that the CC proposal builds… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons Fucking hell. Next time I see a ✨ on something I… |
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@indigoviolet @creativecommons Oh yes, +1 and seeing the CC logo and this thing… |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @creativecommons While you're at it, make the attribut… |
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@StarkRG they *could* retain which input files affected which neurons and then … |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy Well, that's certainly interesting. Seems like a whole… |
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@davidrevoy "building a more equitable, sustainable AI ecosystem rooted in… |
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@leah @davidrevoy @creativecommons yep what we want is just *less tigers eating… |
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@f4grx @leah @davidrevoy Today sounds like an excellent time to bring up Nights… |
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@vansice @f4grx @leah Not FLOSS + not for Linux = no thanks. Also, it is not kn… |
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@davidrevoy @vansice @f4grx and also again: I don't want to do the work bec… |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab while that sounds reasonable at first glance, it is questi… |
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@prinlu that is still to be found out.AI does not *add* copyright to content, b… |
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@ArneBab @prinlu @creativecommons Yes, and also you might accidentally get an A… |
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@davidrevoy as an aside to this: you can see how much this is about power when … |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons Allow me to rephrase the last sen… |
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@davidrevoy @creativecommons I don't get what this is even supposed to acco… |
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@Offbeatmammal @ms_zwiebel @davidrevoy @creativecommons crawlers respect nothin… |
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@Linebyline @ms_zwiebel @davidrevoy especially since they will ignore it and si… |
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@eobet @davidrevoy "NonFuckingCorporate means that Licensed Material is ma… |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @creativecommons hmmm..."Under current law, content p… |
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@prinlu under current *US* law.Those decisions are being disputed, though.@davi… |
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@ArneBab @prinlu @creativecommons I wish it was so simple as claiming that ever… |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @prinlu @creativecommons Regarding this and your previous … |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @creativecommons well, in the US that was tried in the cou… |
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@prinlu @ArneBab @creativecommons No: the court refused the author of "A R… |
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@davidrevoy @prinlu @ArneBab @creativecommons But I heard that in the Midjourne… |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @prinlu @creativecommons In the blog post the other commen… |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @prinlu @creativecommons I don't it's feasible to … |
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@davidrevoy @ArneBab @prinlu @creativecommons For image generation it's har… |
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@natsume_shokogami they could tag the virtual neurons with the training data th… |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons What is the research for that?And… |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons Also one thing I know about many … |
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@natsume_shokogami calling that false positives wouldn’t be correct: the neur… |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons It seems like (my opinion, sorry … |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons While the second paper is about m… |
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@natsume_shokogami that’s one of the current ways, yes.I looked up some resea… |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons One of the issues of the first pa… |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons The second and third paper are mu… |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons But because these mathematical mo… |
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@ArneBab @davidrevoy @prinlu @creativecommons Also for LLMs and most generative… |
