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Post #AyWoZRLHfNm0y9uJ9s by [email protected] |
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Heatpump saga day one thread. Materials arrived. People arrived.Machine to lift… |
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Seems like they have removed my garden gate, hopefully temporarily. Lots of ban… |
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Post #AyWoZRZonLOphEhuoS by [email protected] |
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I mean in fairness to them. They hit a more-or-less unforeseeable snag. And the… |
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We haz stuff though … |
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And since I’m dumping photos, here are the “before” photos. |
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I was hoping they would do all the outdoor stuff first, and it seems like they … |
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Post #AyWoZS8CjUuBPsnNPU by [email protected] |
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Apparently they're planning to hang the unit about 2.2m above path level. A… |
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Post #AyWoZSDsOPRThTRuFc by [email protected] |
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@bloor and those who are, are used to ducking. |
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Post #AyWq1Af9NG6NIizDxg by [email protected] |
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@bloor you have a unit small enough to mount on brackets?! |
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Post #AyWq1AmEwtlzeiIt0q by [email protected] |
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@ahnlak It's 12kW samsung I think. They are massive brackets. |
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Post #AyWq1AsyXrA1zbSGVk by [email protected] |
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@ahnlak I believe it has a mass of 140kg. Doesn't seem insane to mount that… |
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Post #AyWq1LWgz2s8zg77o0 by [email protected] |
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@bloor Classic builders pipework, sprayed silver to hide the mess they made wit… |
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Post #AyWq1Ld4bJybJT6Dke by [email protected] |
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@geoffl i mean this has been the way it has been for about 2-3 decades. wow. ma… |
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Post #AyYfh7cqLWxyrdd1vM by [email protected] |
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Probably an obvious comment but jesusfuck the heatpump is massive, compared to … |
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Post #AyYfh7kdsXClFpHG52 by [email protected] |
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Progress: The heat pump is on the cantilever arms. Seems a bit lower than they … |
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Post #AyYfh7rNTUanaiQdZw by [email protected] |
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And at the end of day one… |
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Post #AyYfh7xl5lhFuVPjWa by [email protected] |
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I think it is more like six foot six off the ground but I think I’m happy eno… |
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Post #AyYfh84Ugj5IFOZ71U by [email protected] |
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This room contains basically everything TBD. |
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Post #AyYfh8AsJ0BkZBYCy8 by [email protected] |
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Ok I measured- it’s 197cm off the ground. It also might start to be getting a… |
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Post #AyYfh8HFvHICsyXIum by [email protected] |
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Heatpump Saga : Day Two... The Tankening.Electrician arrived whilst I was in th… |
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Post #AyYfh8P3SHWzHABX4S by [email protected] |
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Meta has been nagging me to try their AI, so I finally clicked ok.... And immed… |
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Post #AyYfh8XuvKcVieKbsu by [email protected] |
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@bloor I'm not sure your heat pump is high enough for this giant installer … |
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Post #AyYh4BdvfvYNwGhMpc by [email protected] |
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@bloor Hopefully not forshadowing 🫤🤷♂️ |
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Post #AyYisY7YTeKK5O8O8G by [email protected] |
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@bloor I see your problem. Apparently MC Escher did your heatpump design 🧐 |
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Post #AyYisYEI4biMQHHldA by [email protected] |
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@psfshr @bloor Not a good idea to have Escher doing your piping work, unless he… |
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Post #AyYn5D9o89iCeKTsqu by [email protected] |
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Ok so some wiring is done. Apparently this consumer unit (installed at the time… |
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Post #AyYn5DGBkQoey7SynY by [email protected] |
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Meanwhile they are collecting my radiators (which had been in my garage being p… |
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It's quite a weirdly disturbing, disquieting, almost stressful process, thi… |
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Post #AyYn5DSb0IjzabGt8a by [email protected] |
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@bloor Meanwhile I now have a picture of the inside of my house walls! Anyone f… |
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Post #AyYpfSsfLdnVkSsUb2 by [email protected] |
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Cool so I really am quite pleased with the rads in the same colour as the featu… |
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Post #AyYpfT0orKJs9kh0Iy by [email protected] |
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@bloor very nice 👌 |
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Post #AyYpfTLjbZ39CcThuC by [email protected] |
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FWIW I did use paint that said it was for radiators; an "egg shell" f… |
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Post #AyYtOeN3m3WmHKKeOG by [email protected] |
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Sparks just cut the power off without warning me. Which isn’t optimal. Appare… |
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Post #AyYtOeU9LhCOdJeJRQ by [email protected] |
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@bloor Ha. I have a small UPS on the broadband link + router + APs (mainly beca… |
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Post #AyYtOfSliJgjfK0ivY by [email protected] |
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I am feeling somewhat smug about this, even against a normal white wall. This i… |
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Post #AyYtmoNuCAI0HkFTgO by [email protected] |
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@bloor Oh so you're the chap with bits of a jet engine as a coffee table.I … |
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@bloor oh man, how big are the oranges you're juicing 😯 |
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Post #AyZ2GDaINghATLZq2S by [email protected] |
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Ok I think now shit gets serious. Current sit rep: No hot water and no heating.… |
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Post #AyZ2GDgfzxncn8Yvz6 by [email protected] |
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I just want to make clear, this is what they told me would happen exactly. So I… |
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Given it’s an old CU, I kinda expected it not to be all properly glanded onto… |
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Post #AyZ2GDtREW0XQiX7sO by [email protected] |
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@bloor nice work! |
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Post #AyZ6w2e9pxeMWqa9HU by [email protected] |
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Old tank out. |
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Unexpected expense. You see the volvo parked behind all the workmen's cars?… |
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@bloor SIXTEEN QUID. FOR A SANDWICH?!?! |
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Post #AyZbQrVMJGDjZh4woC by [email protected] |
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@bloor My sit rep since November 2024 has been: Some hot water and no heating.I… |
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Post #AyZbR4gTJFpmRvNVR2 by [email protected] |
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@jonty To be fair, they did say this would be the way it would be. So I'm k… |
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Post #AyZbRMLVdvlHE7i1GC by [email protected] |
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@jonty @bloor WTAF? 😳 |
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Post #Ayb1w99FYOYJEpH9c0 by [email protected] |
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Old knackered leaky gas boiler gone. |
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Power flush starting. |
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Post #Ayb1w9OqcP1s1CZbvM by [email protected] |
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New cylinder ready to go in. However I’ve now been told that unfortunately th… |
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Ok I get the feeling they are just tackling tidying up jobs. They have rehung m… |
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Post #Ayb1w9cfn05Wi52eTQ by [email protected] |
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Heat Pump Saga Day ThreeInterestingly, although they gave the impression last n… |
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Post #Ayb1w9jlMdl944MJWa by [email protected] |
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Hmm didn't turn up until 10 past 10. On the other hand they do seem to have… |
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Post #Ayb1w9qUxb9BOxVh1U by [email protected] |
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@bloor "Bad traffic mate, always bad on a Friday!" 😉 |
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Post #AybSP6tlawILT0VNWy by [email protected] |
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Ok there is progress. Not really sure why we have an expansion vessel given it … |
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Post #AybSP71Z7wX7rC9bge by [email protected] |
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@bloor That's smaller than I expected.. Octopus wanted to install one 2mx2… |
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@tony there are only two of us 99% of the time. And we shower opposite ends of … |
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Post #AybSP7EgLB1cVsI58C by [email protected] |
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@tony I think it's roughly the size of the old one, anyway. And that was fi… |
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Post #AybSP7KhylqUoZ6tWa by [email protected] |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] we have a 205 litre tank and the heatpump can… |
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Post #AybSgdIoN3butAZiLI by [email protected] |
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@[email protected] when I see installations like this I wonder why piping etc is n… |
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Ok so we will have (immersion) hot water tonight. But not heating. I’m not wi… |
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Post #AybUGwPctjbWXJdifA by [email protected] |
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This will easily be covered by cupboard. This is on the inside end of the pipes… |
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Post #AybUGwX4S3YiuP7fGa by [email protected] |
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@bloor just a quick thank you for sharing this. It's been really useful as … |
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@bloor If you'd said in advance you were going with olive I'd probably … |
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Post #AyfKweiYr2EsuWaXGy by [email protected] |
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@dan @bloor I hit favourite slightly begrudgingly on that because I should tota… |
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Post #AyfrK9L0NBJz4Roh84 by [email protected] |
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Sigh. Just spotted a leak. From that cover below the lower lever valve. Probabl… |
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Post #AyfrK9SnuBYlSdSvHk by [email protected] |
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Also I’ve noticed that the washing machine then pulled out to run a cable beh… |
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My working theory is their subcontractor sparks moved the machine and they put … |
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And now I’m a bit annoyed and dismayed I’m obviously looking around for thi… |
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They may intend to tidy this up. But they haven’t said they intend to. Either… |
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Post #AyfrK9vACkFEsajZUO by [email protected] |
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Maybe they are holding off filing this huge gap around the pipe through what wa… |
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And again, maybe they intend to address this but you can see the brass fittings… |
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And finally I don’t regard this as having cleaned up. |
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Post #AyfrKAGQvfG5wYgYds by [email protected] |
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Spoke to my heat pump point of contact. Very understanding and apologetic. Ackn… |
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ALSO: THE HOT TAP HAD HOT WATER COMING OUT OF IT WHEN I TRIED IT. |
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Heat pump saga, day four. They were meant to arrive at ten or ten thirty. Why n… |
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Post #AyfrKAeBVMG18DnWfA by [email protected] |
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Also it seems like nothing is leaking (obviously when you change a water cylind… |
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Heat pump saga day five. Apparently they are going to finish it today. We will … |
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Post #AyfrKAsidJsprIb8Jk by [email protected] |
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He arrived at 11:04. I sense that he didn’t want to be here. Meanwhile my hou… |
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Post #AyfrKAzSEHGsCBkVoe by [email protected] |
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Ok he seems to be cracking on. One really interesting / weird thing : some tool… |
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Post #AyfrKB8fg0dyem3sBM by [email protected] |
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Lil bit more progress, it seems. |
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Oh one other thing - someone said they thought the cylinder was a bit small. Th… |
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The loop has been filled and the radiators are being bled of air. That’s prog… |
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Does anyone know??? |
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The heat pump is running and I can even feel a bit of warming in one of the rad… |
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One minor worrying thing is that I can just about hear it running indoors, like… |
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May as well do some science … |
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So it does seem to be working. Objectively, the heat pump is quieter than the r… |
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The settings appear to have the heating loop on 57 degrees, which is not as des… |
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Ok so … some things are definitely screwy here. I hope to fuck the thing does… |
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They have not filled around the pipe through the old flue hole. They have not c… |
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Ok a productive call with my point of contact. Succeeded in adjusting down the … |
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Post #AyfrKCXWT67J08hEYa by [email protected] |
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@bloor Is the system temperature controlled?If so what temperature are you sett… |
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Agreed to address all the snags. Also listed some other stuff that needed setti… |
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@simonzerafa @bloor boiling hot. Literally. |
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@falken @bloor Hopefully not. A house at 100°C would be very present, unless y… |
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@simonzerafa they haven’t enabled weather comp yet which I think ties into th… |
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@bloor Weather compensation is the key. Maybe a constant change between 20 to 2… |
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@simonzerafa it hasn’t been entirely straightforward BUT I can start to see l… |
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@bloor All we've managed this week is new triple glazing which seems quite … |
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@bloor that old cylinder, if it’s copper, don’t get it collected it’s wor… |
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@bloor that old cylinder, if it’s copper, don’t get it collected as rubbish… |
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@bloor when I was pulling our house apart found a guy who would take all the ra… |
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One thing I’ve realised is. The system thinks the domestic hot water tank is … |
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@[email protected] I don't think you're meant to turn it into a steam engi… |
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@runningrobderby @bloor Ah, THE coffee table <3 . |
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@f4grx I still have it. Although arguably it was much more 'suited' to … |
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@bloor @f4grx I know nothing of the lore of that table, but I love it. :) |
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@bloor probably had their fittings on a pre-10 |
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Heatpump saga day six.The heating worked very well over night. Too well. We wer… |
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@bloor phew… saga indeed… thanks for the thread once again. I feel like thi… |
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@piofthings @bloor I can give you contacts for some Midlands based people who s… |
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@http_error_418 @bloor Thanks, I’ll come knocking when I am ready to explore … |
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@piofthings @http_error_418 To be clear, I am not blaming the heatpump here , o… |
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@bloor as we repeatedly say, the greatest achievement of the modern world is to… |
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@beasts @bloor But you've not sent me a single unicorn, griffin, dragon or … |
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@penguin42 @bloor we're Mythic Beasts Limited, so you only get pictures in … |
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@bloor Maybe linked to your previous comment of 'Bit puzzled that only mayb… |
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@bloor Oh congratulations! |
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@bloor Save him some time; let him give the manual to you and do the digital si… |
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@penguin42 I do not anticipate any instruction or induction to how to use it ho… |
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@bloor @penguin42 as in, don't want, or doubt they'll provide? I haven&… |
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@damien @penguin42 I’d hope for a walk through / intro . I won’t get one th… |
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@bloor Both screwfix and Toolstation have schemes like this; https://www.screw… |
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@bloor I guess it depends which bits are live? |
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Ok so the heatpump guy, in spite of being given a pile of evidence that, infact… |
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Notably, the house is still lovely and warm, to be fair. |
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@bloor Has the power come down? |
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@jfparis I'm not home but a big chunk of the day it was using 0.1kW, I thin… |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] fyi ours peaks about 1.8kw in the current… |
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So they have accepted that it is the wrong probe. Sigh. And they said they’d … |
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I am now having an argument with the point of contact about the immersion. Basi… |
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Ok good. The sensor is now swapped. Blue wire this time. The reading of tank te… |
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Seems like when heating up the water, it really ramps up the heat pump and runs… |
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@[email protected] we only heat our dhw to 42 with a weekly boost for hygiene, and… |
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Now the tank is at temperature, the system has ramped down massively. |
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Extremely back of fat packet maths. The unit lifted 200l of water from (call it… |
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@bloor A COP of 3 for an new and probably unoptimised setup isn't too shabb… |
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@bloor Make sure you heat it over 70 (I think) once a week for legionella. |
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@alexlomas @bloor correct, we have a hot water system heated using an air sourc… |
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@alexlomas @bloor It should happen automatically |
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@gulfie @alexlomas I believe that is how mine works, although I’m unsure how … |
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@bloor @alexlomas we can see it in our energy monitoring. I don’t monitor the… |
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Ok so Kemi had a shower and approx ten minutes after the shower, after the heat… |
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@bloor Surely less expensive to use overnight lower rate electricity? 🙂 |
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@[email protected] our controller has time periods for comfort and eco, so I have … |
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@bloor @http_error_418 yup! Totally get it. I just had a rant on outsourcing ==… |
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@bloor @piofthings @http_error_418 and they should spend most of a day balancin… |
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@bloor Farenheit? 116 would be 46.6 and if the tank sits around ~50C (122F) tha… |
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@Elwell @bloor my tank is set for 50, with a weekly boost to 60 to prevent legi… |
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@http_error_418 @bloor We don't have an obvious setting - it's an older… |
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@Elwell @bloor my tank is inside, but it's really well insulated - the oute… |
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@bloor maybe it thinks the tank is at 5bar 😛In seriousness though, the subco… |
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@bloor Jesus. That's all a bit shonky. I can well understand you not being … |
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@greem @bloor yeah that's all a bit messy. Not sure about the brass flow an… |
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@greem @bloor so, a bit of a mix on mine, the parts immediately on the back of … |
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@cryptomoose I will continue until the project is done. They will be back again… |
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@bloor @cryptomoose ok this seems to be going less well than mine on the plumbi… |
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@http_error_418 @cryptomoose well that’s another thing. I’m expecting one r… |
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@bloor @cryptomoose what have they been *doing* all week? Doing the rads at min… |
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@http_error_418 @cryptomoose hanging it on the wall took a whole day to be fair |
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@bloor now mine is in operation there's a thing about it I've noticed t… |
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@http_error_418 I think my plan is to let them install it and try not to preemp… |
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@bloor yeah fair, it's not a terrible noise, just a mild irritation, and de… |
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@http_error_418 I can be quite adept at building small diy projects too. So if … |
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@bloor worst one I had for leaving stuff was the plasterers in the eldest's… |
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Heat Pump Saga Day Six or Seven (depending on your viewpoint) - they didn't… |
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Also 6) Maybe do a handover?7) Maybe clean the carpet they made a mess of?Finge… |
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Insulation I didn’t expect them to bother with. |
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This does look a bit more finished to be fair … |
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They have done quite a thorough job cleaning up in the "hot water tank&quo… |
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I'm informed that the rubbish will be taken away tomorrow, so that's go… |
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Has to be said I am really fucking sick of having people making noise and mess … |
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These do look neater; better sealed as it goes through the wall, and condensate… |
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I might insulate the condensate drain myself, once they are gone, as I believe … |
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Noting down loop pressure, and suddenly realised the compressor wasn’t runnin… |
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So yet again only because I noticed and chased after them as they were leaving … |
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@bloor What a palaver 😬 |
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@bloor May be worth looking at Octopus Cosy: https://octopus.energy/smart/cosy-… |
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The main engineer has gone off site, because he needed to pick up his wife and … |
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I have, once again, but far more warmly, expressed my anger and disappoint at t… |
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Apparently the engineer will be back at ten. I mean, I wanted a shower and to g… |
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@bloor There’s very little I hate more than not being able to shower. It feel… |
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The engineer is back. I mean good. But also *sigh*. |
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It’s gone eleven and the engineer is still here. Sigh. |
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The engineer has left. Hot water and heating both working again. Crucially I al… |
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Flow temp 58. Woof. |
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Cylinder almost at target. |
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@bloor Is this a hot tap water tank? I thought you had to keep at least 60°C t… |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] thats a myth, usually systems do a hygien… |
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Heat pump saga day a fucking million. Last night I was able to have a shower. G… |
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So all this has done is made it so I set the flow temp not have it work off the… |
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So I’m asking for a flow of 45 in the heating circuit. |
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@bloor What a ballache. There's something wrong, surely? Radiator size? |
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@[email protected] on the hot water there is probably a hysteresis figure so it ma… |
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@davep it was working great |
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@bloor But you're having to bodge it to keep it working after, what, less t… |
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@[email protected] on the heating, need to check the weather compensation curve, a… |
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@davep well it was working actually quite well, then they came back and drained… |
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@bloor Ah, ok, so not necessarily something that's going to keep happening … |
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@nick he’s literally just told me “the thermostat function doesn’t work v… |
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@[email protected] sounds like you need someone who knows what they are doing, ver… |
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@bloor @davep Do you think it's air in the heating loop? If so can you jus… |
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@penguin42 @davep unsure. We did notice a ton of gurgling last night . |
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@bloor @davep Well you may as well try bleeding your radiators (the loop pressu… |
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@penguin42 @bloor I guess a bit of tinkering before they disappear for good mig… |
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@penguin42 @davep I have no means to top it up |
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@bloor @davep Oh curious, our boiler has a end-user thing to top up; but still,… |
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@penguin42 @bloor @davep More than just curious, I'd think the system would… |
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@edavies @penguin42 @davep yep and mine goes to non mains (loft tank) supply. S… |
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@bloor @edavies @penguin42 Eww |
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I am really quite fed up with all this. What I really want to do is get in a 3r… |
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He will meet the installer, and figure out what they are going to do. But again… |
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The point of contact was actually kind of verging on stroppy; almost indignant,… |
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I do not regard myself as a difficult customer; I'm actually quite reasonab… |
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Meanwhile a friend made this in AI : |
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Ok so, had a call from the main point of contact. He and the fitter will come b… |
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@bloor 🤦♂️ |
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Heat pump saga day a million and one. So they arrived two hours after they said… |
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@bloor So baffled as to why they didn't do this to start with, surely just … |
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@synx508 Yerp . Inexperience is my thought. And maybe penny pinching? |
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@synx508 thing is I see inefficiencies which were no doubt done to try and redu… |
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@bloor Minimum viable plumber. |
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@bloor what's the alternative way to fill? Bucket some water into a funnel? |
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@damien one of these is how they did it 2-3 times before : |
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@penguin42 @davep but that will drop the loop pressure, which if it drops far e… |
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@bloor @penguin42 @davep er, you should have a way to pressurise the loop yours… |
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@smsm1 @bloor @penguin42 @davep fwiw, chatted to a friend with a heat pump last… |
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@johnl @smsm1 @penguin42 @davep fuck wow |
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@bloor @johnl @smsm1 @penguin42 @davep I suppose if your cold water supply is g… |
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@ahnlak @johnl @smsm1 @penguin42 @davep that’s correct. But madly mains press… |
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@bloor @ahnlak @johnl @penguin42 @davep then why use the gravity feed system. W… |
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@smsm1 @bloor @johnl @penguin42 @davep some power showers have a slight tendenc… |
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@ahnlak @bloor @johnl @penguin42 @davep ah, that's something I haven't … |
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Post #AyqAyYucY3DmgK3h3o by [email protected] |
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@smsm1 @ahnlak @johnl @penguin42 @davep two mega brands and two popular models … |
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@bloor @ahnlak @johnl @penguin42 @davep Checking terminology... does the shower… |
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@smsm1 @bloor @ahnlak @johnl @penguin42 @davep Electric shower heats cold water… |
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@smsm1 @bloor @ahnlak @johnl @penguin42 @davep Also you should regularly move t… |
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@geoffl @smsm1 @bloor @ahnlak @johnl @penguin42 I first encountered a thermosta… |
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@bloor I'm out of the country at the moment but when I go back I'll fin… |
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@X31Andy I think. On reflection, I’d have been capable of doing this with a b… |
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@bloor that's the thing - if they were honest and knew what they were doing… |
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Post #AyqB1F9wRg6wHuVGzI by [email protected] |
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@ret A couple of times now I feel I've been the victim of attempted bullshi… |
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@bloor I'm sorta terrified about getting into solar stuff (which is imminen… |
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@ret So it turns out I know more (in some areas) than my heatpump people about … |
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Post #AyqB1R1WKoVN5GeiWm by [email protected] |
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@bloor manual pumping? This does not sound like a very ... normal installation. |
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@ahnlak except https://mastodon.social/@johnl/115307035646615532 |
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@bloor @ahnlak There's almost certainly already a mains water pipe in your … |
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@geoffl @ahnlak I think their plan now is to bring something back down from the… |
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Post #AyqB1eNyedC0WgGKps by [email protected] |
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Post #AyqB3Z9D6J5WrLGiq8 by [email protected] |
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@bloor I wouldn't expect the temperature of the hot water to be maintained … |
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Post #AyqB3ZGeed2jEQkfRY by [email protected] |
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@bloor when it's warmer outside like it has been here today, the temperatur… |
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Post #AyqB3ZO6CwzvbWEc2y by [email protected] |
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@smsm1 I have put a thermal camera on the rads. They are half full of air. |
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Post #AyqB3ZVXlGx7ybiYeO by [email protected] |
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@smsm1 but I can’t bleed the air because that will cause the loop to lose pre… |
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@bloor is there a leak somewhere that's allowing air into the system?We had… |
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Post #AyqB3ZieyVRcdHr25w by [email protected] |
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@smsm1 it’s very plausible there may be very very small leaks in places. If i… |
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@bloor the gap can be small enough to allow air in but not let a noticeable amo… |
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@bloor toilet paper/kitchen roll can sometimes help with detecting these kinds … |
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Post #AyqB4HSuKQzKJAp4eO by [email protected] |
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@smsm1 the flow temp mode was temporarily chosen to get it to do something. I t… |
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Post #AyqB4cP4TtOhFMBo5Q by [email protected] |
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@smsm1 there is no weather comp at the moment; we are in “set flow temp” mo… |
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@bloor the set flow temperature option isn't one that's available on my… |
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@bloor this whole saga has convinced me to stay with my normal immersion heater… |
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@vfrmedia Really don't feel it's the heat pump's "fault".… |
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@bloor its something that plagues all the skilled trades, a lack of training an… |
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@vfrmedia @bloor the company I got in did almost all the work themselves with o… |
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@bloor @vfrmedia yeah, apparently that happened with solar installers in the 20… |
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Post #AyqB5XQ6Uj5k546w6q by [email protected] |
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@bloor look up HeatGeek. 👍 MCS is beyond a complete waste of time. I have ze… |
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@theolodian Not a particularly helpful suggestion (although I'm sure it was… |
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Post #AyqB5XdvfK9OlwZyeu by [email protected] |
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@theolodian A lot of firms in this space do seem to be very new and inexperienc… |
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@bloor @theolodian Hindsight is certainly 20:20. I think the main thing I'd… |
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@wishy @bloor it shouldn’t be this hard to install, but it is very difficult … |
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@theolodian @bloor No wet system for us to retrofit anyway, so it'll be A2A… |
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@wishy @theolodian You already get VAT knocked off A2A; that's 20% so i mea… |
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@bloor @theolodian Very true; think it's 5% VAT still? Precision control of… |
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@wishy @theolodian I am /fairly/ sure it was 0% VAT when we had our bedroom a/c… |
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@bloor @theolodian So it is, i must have missed that change. |
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@wishy @theolodian I know someone who just had 3 A/C units done all at once in … |
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@bloor @theolodian Any idea how much a 3 unit set them back? |
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@wishy @bloor shouldn’t be more than £5K really. Can be hit or miss with ins… |
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@theolodian @wishy I think it was £6k in total, for 3x Daikin Emura ones, two … |
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@bloor @wishy sounds good. We’re looking at 7 indoor units on 2 outdoor units… |
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@theolodian @wishy I think we'll end up with about eight ish. One down seve… |
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@bloor @wishy only 2 outdoor units are permitted development, the rest require … |
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@theolodian @wishy wow that sucks. Does it make any difference that half of our… |
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@bloor @wishy I take it that you already have 3-phase. The DNO is another barri… |
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Post #AyqB6P9ei61KjgpYy8 by [email protected] |
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@bloor @wishy nope. You can have all of the gas boilers and coal stoves that yo… |
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Post #AyqFC2hjUbnaf4iJlI by [email protected] |
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@bloor @damien refilled the whole system by hand pump? 😟 |
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@kjetiljd @bloor higher temps are less efficient to reach. The systems will gen… |
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@[email protected] Cold radiator could be air-locked. Some bumblefuckery with tur… |
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@kim @bloor oooof clogged microbore. Hate it. |
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@tinmouth @kim thing is it’s 10mm copper; the OD and ID are really not far ap… |
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@bloor @kim aha, makes sense. I have been blasted the face by rapidly uncloggin… |
