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Post #AxkiPk1vPCGEihlfPM by [email protected] |
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So there's a decades-old mechanism (and actual standard) how programs lock … |
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Post #AxkiPkBqoICVDUPasa by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge "Those who don't understand UNIX are doomed to reinvent it, p… |
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Post #AxlrPUV6EkkvImKU0e by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge Systemd programmers, making other people angry? Unpossible! /s |
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Post #AxnzxASKSO9AvhWSSu by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge Aaaaaandddd this is why systemd sucks, whether it actually works or no… |
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Post #AxnzxAYi4fFdFUVYPY by [email protected] |
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@RealGene @LaF0rge "it has not been updated recently" used to be a ma… |
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Post #AxnzxAf5gwM5ZHUeMC by [email protected] |
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@mirabilos A million times this, precisely. @RealGene @LaF0rge |
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Post #AyF4NNkbIOI0mBk5i4 by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge Well, Microsoft never met a standard they didn't intend to ruin. S… |
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Post #AyF4NNsOpOWnANOJrk by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge That said, I know that at least on Linux serial devices can be locked … |
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Post #AyF4NNz8QLupVGXhMe by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge @phf you have to stick to the one traditional locking algorithm nevert… |
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Post #AyF4NO5s1JIrq9h4rY by [email protected] |
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@mirabilos @LaF0rge Yep but TIOCEXCL makes it so other processes get EBUSY from… |
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Post #AyF4NOBteu7k8qVtFw by [email protected] |
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@phf @mirabilos well, it's advisory in the way that anyone can access the s… |
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Post #AyF4NhOeFic5htcqGm by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge @mirabilos I don't know for sure right now BUT everybody else in t… |
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Post #AyF4OCDNff1JHvamVk by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge we are not breaking it, we are just not creating that dir anymore from… |
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Post #AyF4OCKpDyyVf14j7A by [email protected] |
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@pid_eins for the record, I never argued that the serial port lock files was ev… |
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Post #AyF4ODYgfvepSIZJMO by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge ... or containers, the lifecycle of the lockfiles is just hosed, it… |
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Post #AyF4OFbx2lSNp06wj2 by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge ... rip it out of systemd and let downstreams manage it, via tmpfiles.… |
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Post #AyF4OGmyfFs3TUHGYC by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge ...to some point I can even understand that for Debian traditions and … |
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Post #AyF4ObwxzJL56Y72XI by [email protected] |
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@pid_eins @LaF0rge i think a slow migration and communication wouldve been best… |
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Post #AyF4Oc2zcu9xPEvqvg by [email protected] |
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@Logical_Error @LaF0rge Hmm, what? that PR in question *has* *not* *even* *been… |
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Post #AyF4Oc9NFBGPj1uwsK by [email protected] |
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@Logical_Error @LaF0rge the PR qeued for merging in v259 is this one btw:https:… |
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Post #AyF4OcFkrSMs2ou2oy by [email protected] |
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@Logical_Error @LaF0rge Let me stress this again. The stuff @LaF0rge is complai… |
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Post #AyF4OcLQWMuAKPYZf6 by [email protected] |
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@pid_eins @Logical_Error thanks for clarification. As end user it's sometim… |
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Post #AyF4OdIcyGGBI1FqwC by [email protected] |
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@Logical_Error @LaF0rge And to add more to this noise about nothing:It's no… |
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Post #AyF4PiqHqdziloWBCi by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge if uve changed ur opinion here, i think the best step here to tamp dow… |
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Post #AyF4PyUBgZp9HuIkym by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge Which standard? Which software still uses that? I now wonder who still… |
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Post #AyF4PyaZIqvbbhHqvQ by [email protected] |
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@waldi the Unix FHS standard describes that lock file mechanism, and at least d… |
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Post #AyF4PygawRkTuO6fJo by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge FHS is a living standard, it documents current practice. And in case o… |
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Post #AyF4Pymca2ZMD4vTiC by [email protected] |
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@waldi there's no need for world-writability, but all programs with serial … |
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Post #AyF4QUB9qrcFa9e0lE by [email protected] |
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@farbenstau @LaF0rge Actually /var/lock is already a workaround for no useful l… |
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Post #AyF4QUGTX5rxqe8G36 by [email protected] |
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@waldi @farbenstau im not arguing a technical case here. Im arguing existing ap… |
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Post #AyF4QULnDK7g78cVKy by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge @farbenstau There is a modern standard, it is called flock(2). But the… |
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Post #AyF4QURoquwYPpRJjM by [email protected] |
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@waldi @farbenstau im not sure if you fould consider flock a standard. It is o… |
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Post #AyF4R6fck2Z4xeBsWW by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge If /run/lock is always created during boot, and group dialout needs to… |
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Post #AyF4R6miJgEhJdVXZg by [email protected] |
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@argv_minus_one I can find any number of workarounds. My point is that FHS says… |
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Post #AyF4R6tntJuJfcpCcq by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge @argv_minus_one When there was no discussion, let‘s not discuss eith… |
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Post #AyF4R71FRdrW2iJ9EG by [email protected] |
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@elosha There is no violation of FHS. FHS does not specify which users and grou… |
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Post #AyF4R78gzxoiPnn5pg by [email protected] |
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@argv_minus_one @elosha well, one can certainly argue whether it's a distri… |
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Post #AyF4RknTYGc3PaAiJc by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge And now that distros have adjusted the permissions of /run/lock to mat… |
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Post #AyF4Ru6wvEXOIaLtQ0 by [email protected] |
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@LaF0rge While I'm in the systemd haters camp, I also tend to acknowledge t… |
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Post #AyF4RuDgWBvQdTVGuu by [email protected] |
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@hanshuebner if it was a kernel ABI, it would also not be broken. I regret that… |
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Post #AyF4S1hMiEpHpYRZeS by [email protected] |
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@hanshuebner @LaF0rge 😻😻😻IMHO it is a matter of professional pride and… |
