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Post #AxFnK3yEpYD0hJOhNo by [email protected] |
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oh my god auuuugh what the wayland, pygame wont start mollytime fullscreen on m… |
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lol it works if I tell pygame to use x11 instead of wayland 😭 |
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I hate wayland so much. I thought wayland was supposed to get better when I up… |
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Post #AxFnK4I5dk5XgsgYKG by [email protected] |
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@aeva i use wayland on my laptop. bugs encountered so far: 1 |
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Post #AxFnK57UYdCmGIjbRg by [email protected] |
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no actually it's good actually that my computer is broken all the time. pr… |
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Post #AxFnK5Xiz6BlZf0YKm by [email protected] |
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there i fixed it |
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Post #AxFnK5yfMvjuvDc4KO by [email protected] |
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i hope the municipality of Wayland, Iowa sues free desktop dot org for libel |
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Post #AxFohXwjeCAqHRSKrg by [email protected] |
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@lritter which wayland do you use |
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@aeva the one that comes with ubuntu 25.04 |
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uuuugh so I thought maybe the way to fix this "properly" would be to … |
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in theory pygame has a "WINDOWDISPLAYCHANGED" event which would provi… |
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is there like a wiki or something somewhere that catalogs all of the things tha… |
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if anyone knows of such a resource do tell, it would be extremely helpful |
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I want to do the following:1. place a full screen window on a touch screen when… |
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@aeva as far as i know these are all very easy and standard usecases that don&#… |
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Post #AxH6u6uNTh9uWMSCJs by [email protected] |
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@leo fantastic! how do I do this then |
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Post #AxH6u70l5yGMq9RIGW by [email protected] |
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@aeva if you were writing your own graphics library i'd say to look at wl_o… |
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@leo I think it is well established now that pygame is not viable going forward… |
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@leo from https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/README-wayland "Wayland does not al… |
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Post #AxH6vc9qmJnJjHPMqe by [email protected] |
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@aeva I don't want to know that wayland exists I just want to pretend that … |
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@glyph oh that exists already, it's called ship a windows binary on steam |
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@aeva @leo querying other outputs I think is an extension as is setting which s… |
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Post #AxH6wr0H4It23sWJ72 by [email protected] |
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@Lunaphied @aeva listing wl_outputs is part of the core protocol, setting the f… |
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@leo @aeva wl_outputs != screens |
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Post #AxH6wrD2Ir5whSUV0K by [email protected] |
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@Lunaphied @aeva are you sure? a lot of operations on them do not seem meaningf… |
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@leo @aeva its a niche issue idk if it really applies here, only mentioned it b… |
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@Lunaphied @aeva reading the protocols closer yeah you're right i'm not… |
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Post #AxH74WydPUPEGdPids by [email protected] |
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@aeva you will need multiple lists, one for each compositor |
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@0x2ba22e11 correct |
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Post #AxH74XCSa5SsxVslBw by [email protected] |
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@aeva this is the aspect of Wayland that makes me feel most sad about it. |
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Post #AxH74XIqCMZLHIrr8a by [email protected] |
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@0x2ba22e11 this is the reason why wayland is always going to be broken forever |
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Post #AxH74XQHkgWXeOLnk0 by [email protected] |
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@aeva @0x2ba22e11 it's the Linux way - battle royale of the Wayland composi… |
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I'd also like to be able to put different full screen windows on different … |
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@aeva Can I quote you on that? |
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@drwho which part and for what purpose |
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punchline: I undid the hack to force x11 to try to collect diagnostic informati… |
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@aeva That one post, in my ~/.plan file, as an excellent expression of the frus… |
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@drwho that's fine |
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@aeva https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland#Troubleshooting |
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@aeva I think the best rule is to assume everything except "The window man… |
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@leo @Lunaphied @aeva Yes. I just ran into this. |
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@aeva ha ha ha :((I think I'm in the same place as you where this solution … |
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@aeva (but yes I'm aware that "at scale" this is the only real op… |
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@aeva for Plasma: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Known_Significant_Is… |
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@aeva so I don't know if this is useful to you, but, I am vaguely aware tha… |
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@glyph @aeva No, this is the fullscreen *shell*, not something you use on deskt… |
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@dos @glyph great how do I make the problem go away then |
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@aeva @glyph You call set_fullscreen(output) on your surface and it goes fullsc… |
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@dos @glyph amazing. I plugged in my second monitor again and tried running it… |
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@aeva This one is as @glyph said - I'm not aware of an API for that. It sme… |
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@aeva wl_outputs don't have an "are you a touchscreen" property, … |
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@aeva outputs do have "make" and "model" though so maybe yo… |
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@aeva when you make a window fullscreen you get to pick which screen that is |
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@aeva on SDL3 this would presumably be implemented via the API for picking a vi… |
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@radgeRayden it's a good start but it's not detailed enough to be useful |
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@dos @aeva thanks for the correction, I didn't check the link very carefull… |
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@aeva from what I hear, wayland have no path to screencapture and that's so… |
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@Lunaphied @aeva i mean i sincerely doubt the (theoretical?) program here would… |
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@leo @Lunaphied @aeva Much more readily. |
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@aeva some time later:mollytime, now available for commodore amiga |
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@aeva If there was the Wayland project would get it DMCA'd and file a libel… |
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@aeva @glyph I wholeheartedly agree win32 is the stable linux api and that make… |
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to be fair it's also the most stable windows and mac apiCC: @aeva@mastodon.… |
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AHAHAHA NO IM NOT CRAZY if I set the primary monitor's resolution scale to … |
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all the wayland apologists who guessed "actually, it's the user's … |
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I'm seriously torn between refusing to ship Linux builds of anything (and t… |
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@aeva I'd go with "Windows only" and have the distributions do th… |
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@GyrosGeier I want the linux version to actually work correctly if there's … |
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@aeva is your test machine using gnome? I am developing a theory that gnome Way… |
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@mcc yup. "Gnome 48". I'm reliably informed that KDE uses the s… |
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@aeva Unfortunately I have very specific opinions about how window borders shou… |
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@mcc @aeva I'm confused I thought under Wayland gnome doesn't draw any … |
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@shironeko @aeva Total lack of window borders is a recurring problem I have on … |
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@mcc also I'm just going to have to fix or find workarounds for all these p… |
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@aeva i've been having display issues with this laptop since day 1 where it… |
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@aeva maybe someone will rewrite X11 in rust and then it’s new and hip again.… |
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@aeva I unironically think the latter option is the more prosocial one |
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@glyph I think the main mark against it is that I want my players to be happy |
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@aeva @glyph well they can always use the X11 backend |
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@aeva what the FUCK. WHAT the FUCK |
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@artemis YES! FOR THE SAKE OF FUCK! |
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@aeva Thank you kindly, I appreciate it. |
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@aeva I mean... If it works in proton, a Linux build is mostly just a lot of un… |
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@mcc @aeva that corelates with what I've been gathering as wells |
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#justGNOMEthings #FreeDesktopHell |
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@oblomov @glyph mollytime has some critical bugs that prevent the x11 backend f… |
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@aeva I had a lot of hopes for Wayland that were quickly dashed when I used Way… |
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@oblomov @aeva @glyph Or the new fork. |
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@Gabadabs it sure is |
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@aeva @Gabadabs unironically I think doing this and treating every issue that c… |
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@dngrs @Gabadabs I mean, if proton isn't doing something that would normall… |
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@aeva windows api is stable... hehe |
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@ekaitz_zarraga it is |
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@gkrnours solutions exist but apparently no standardized one 😅 obs has plugi… |
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@zaphodb @aeva https://chaos.social/@datenwolf/115043197877505651 |
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@aeva @artemis you can reverse engineer some kind of logic and bend over backwa… |
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@shironeko @mcc my understanding is that applications have to all draw their ow… |
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@dngrs that's kinda my point. Wayland is all standard while sway and cosmic… |
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@glyph @aeva unfortunately since the powers that be have managed to consistentl… |
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@aeva i like kde but when i get my shit together and move back to alpine i will… |
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@aeva i've determined that the "open source" nvidia drivers can b… |
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@aeva @shironeko @mcc yeah, gnome refuses to draw borders for you unless you wr… |
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@gkrnours @aeva screen capture works fine for the most part, you just need to u… |
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@aeva Gnome's Not Wayland |
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@hipsterelectron @aeva I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you… |
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@lritter @aeva heaven forfend gnome find itself divided by wayland. no, let us … |
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Post #AxMfF4ouny8cMFrqXg by [email protected] |
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@aeva I went back to x11 when I fixed my big monitor. No hiDPI, no need for way… |
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Post #AxOXEMsDmqzak6U7Zw by [email protected] |
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@aeva It‘ usually a sign that the prople did not fully understand the thing t… |
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Post #AxQGEc1k8WXOptOBrk by [email protected] |
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@gkrnours yeah, it's a sad mess |
