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I now believe that "JavaScript or React or Node aren't a problem per s… |
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@nina_kali_nina oh, oh, 👋AI is just a tool! I've seen that used quite a … |
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Every now and then I feel disappointed by the fact that modern web doesn't … |
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@reidrac yep 🥲 that too |
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@nina_kali_nina yes! i just wish the alternatives offered weren't "do … |
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@nina_kali_nina a good programming language (and a good tool in general) makes … |
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@nina_kali_nina The "modern web" doesn't even work with firefox a… |
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@nina_kali_nina And then there's images... Every now and again a smaller si… |
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@nina_kali_nina im not sure if that's accurate 'cos I haven't used … |
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@nina_kali_nina What did I miss? JavaScript is my main language and I really lo… |
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@becomethewaifu I've heard a story about a prod web page that used 1024x102… |
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@nina_kali_nina I learned HTML in 1996 when in our company we said "each p… |
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@nina_kali_nina I think a better measure is, "If this COULD be a static we… |
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@nina_kali_nina I saw that one too, but yeah, no clue as to how true it actuall… |
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@EkpyroticFrood you have my respects, then. However, I believe it's similar… |
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@nina_kali_nina The problem isn't that JavaScript, Node, or React are bad -… |
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@kotaro I feel that modern web tries to be an app running on top of an idealise… |
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@nina_kali_nina I've personally taken a 600+ MB React/NodeJS application we… |
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@nina_kali_nina I’m reminded of that period where browsers didn’t yet suppo… |
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I've heard the argument "oh, but you can just buy more RAM, a new smar… |
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@nina_kali_nina Here are some classics in case you missed them.kingdomofloathin… |
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@nina_kali_nina Programmers: I implemented FizzBuzz in 17 keystrokes for a code… |
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@nina_kali_nina eh, you can use JavaScript to improve accessibility, some thing… |
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@lunareclipse using AVIF and WebP where JPEG or PNG could have been used probab… |
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@sol_hsa @nina_kali_nina "Modern web" often tells me that I'm off… |
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@nina_kali_nina If you think about it logically, front-end engineers should jus… |
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@kotaro I think this approach results in bad latency, especially on unreliable … |
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@raynerlucas and let's hope the cake recipe wasn't GenAI'd... |
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@nina_kali_nina 30 MB ouch!To be fair, a full React site build takes under 3 MB… |
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@nina_kali_nina Fair enough. I think I just get a little twitchy hearing my com… |
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@nina_kali_nina when you put a boatload of ram into a phone, that also means yo… |
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@nina_kali_nina Nobody clicks through to the web page anyway because the Google… |
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@EkpyroticFrood it is a part of a portal, that's why... |
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@nina_kali_nina there's the option of having an srcset and transcoding the … |
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@lunareclipse srcset 🥰 |
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@EkpyroticFrood oh but it absolutely can be compared to murder sticks. I've… |
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@nina_kali_nina my bank removed support for Android <8 in their app (that I … |
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@nina_kali_nina"The browser tab takes 600 MB of RAM"*muffled scream* |
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@nina_kali_nina my midrange smartphone from 2019 has 4GB of RAM. It's a fre… |
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@nina_kali_nina having authored a lot of the memory reduction measures in Firef… |
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@gabrielesvelto 🥲 I'm so sorry. And thank you... |
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@pulkomandy @nina_kali_nina Sorry to break it to you, but many banks will block… |
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@jkn @pulkomandy This is exactly why I'm afraid of rooting my Android phone… |
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@nina_kali_nina “RAM is cheap” is a pernicious argument I’ve been hearing… |
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@nina_kali_nina Just started a React project at work this week. I hate it. |
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@bytex64 this is a part of a bigger app, but in this particular case there'… |
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@[email protected] I don't need modern tech to make a website run li… |
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@natty @nina_kali_nina The problem is that as hardware has progressed, the tech… |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] well that's not entirel… |
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@natty @becomethewaifu there's "some performance is eaten by framework… |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] Well, if we put stock Windo… |
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@natty @becomethewaifu I agree, yeah. Also goose-knife.jpg who makes the framew… |
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@nina_kali_nina the web app I programmed 3 years ago with asp.net core, which f… |
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@nina_kali_nina the memory footprint is probably because of the browser more th… |
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@tendstofortytwo no, it had literally hundreds of megabytes of DOM. :( |
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@nina_kali_nina @tendstofortytwo when the div tree grows logarithmicly |
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@MiaWinter @tendstofortytwo lol 🥲 real |
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@nina_kali_nina This is why I'm just using Django/htmx now, Python has type… |
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@nina_kali_nina that sounds... absurdly high?! like, even the homepage of reddi… |
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@tendstofortytwo Reddit IS highly optimised for their purposes... |
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@becomethewaifu @nina_kali_nina …or you find a 700 kB .png instead of a • b… |
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@Uair @nina_kali_nina Thank you for mentioning http://thingsmygirlfriendandihav… |
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@coldkennels Yeah, Mil is something special.I've often felt like the Truth … |
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@Uair I think my favourite bit of the whole site is that I started going to Ger… |
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@coldkennels Nice.I describe it as superior to the Taj Mahal as a tribute to th… |
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@Uair I really hope they're still together; I was quite sad when the update… |
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@nina_kali_nina So it’s a single bundle for the whole app, which includes thi… |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] Well the frameworks solve a… |
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@natty @nina_kali_nina JavaScript is not good either, but the way it is used ma… |
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@nina_kali_nina Absolutely. You don't even have to use Electron. |
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@nina_kali_nina glad to not have to deal with that for the most part |
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@nina_kali_nina I am just a humble, volunteer website creator/maintainer, with … |
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@coldkennels I was too late to the party to get on the mailing list, but my fri… |
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@nina_kali_nina @kotaro Making a native app massively increases development cos… |
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@natty @becomethewaifu @nina_kali_nina You're not entirely wrong but just b… |
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@tendstofortytwo @nina_kali_nina 130MB also sounds insane to me for a simple we… |
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@alwayscurious @kotaro I only agree about accessibility and only to an extent. … |
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@nina_kali_nina this is completely crazy. I've still got my old netbook fro… |
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@ltning @natty @becomethewaifu extra point: consumer hardware plays 1080p since… |
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@necrophcodr @tendstofortytwo DOM requires a lot of memory, unfortunately. :( |
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@nina_kali_nina not only that, I used to host a Minecraft server on it too. I&#… |
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@necrophcodr IIRC Windows 11 uses JavaScript-based Start Menu, so if your compu… |
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@nina_kali_nina @tendstofortytwo I don't think so. I think some implementat… |
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@nina_kali_nina good thing it doesn't struggle with electron apps! but it d… |
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@nina_kali_nina obviously I'm not saying everything should be optimized for… |
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@nina_kali_nina Well it sounds like they’ve built it weirdly in any case. The… |
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@necrophcodr @tendstofortytwo I have netsurf-gtk which is JS-less browser with … |
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@nina_kali_nina there's a critical problem here in that there's miniscu… |
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@bytex64 I guess it's kind of similar to how facebook.com/help/ is ~20 MB o… |
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@nina_kali_nina @natty @becomethewaifu My Pentium4 from 2003 with some nvidia a… |
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@nina_kali_nina @necrophcodr How many VMs are piled on top (or stuffed inside) … |
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@nina_kali_nina @kotaro What would you use to make a native application? Must … |
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@natty @becomethewaifu @nina_kali_nina So to summarize, other than some modern … |
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@natty @becomethewaifu @nina_kali_nina Even my Pentium Pro without AES-NI can d… |
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@alwayscurious @kotaro Qt, for example? |
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@nina_kali_nina @necrophcodr @tendstofortytwo netsurf was originally aimed for … |
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@nina_kali_nina @bytex64 My first Unix system fit on an eighty megabyte disk, w… |
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@elithebearded @bytex64 yep! Windows 95 installation media took less space than… |
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@nina_kali_nina javascript should have been put down behind the shed 20 years a… |
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Post #AwVzNkJ4STUZgal4qG by [email protected] |
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@nina_kali_nina @kotaro I believe it requires a commercial license for iOS, C++… |
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@alwayscurious @kotaro I think almost everything native requires licenses for i… |
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@nina_kali_nina @kotaro What I meant is that the Qt open source license terms a… |
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@alwayscurious @kotaro 🤔 how come? Qt can be used as LGPL, so there shouldn&… |
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@nina_kali_nina @kotaro LGPL requires that the end user be able to relink the a… |
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@alwayscurious @kotaro sounds like that should be fine; I know some developers … |
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@wildebest @nina_kali_ninaCan't be said enough... |
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@nina_kali_nina Oh, there is lots more reasons to not upgrade phone or pc. Some… |
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Post #AwYamUjzYOXrGkw0PY by [email protected] |
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@ramiil so true, especially with Windows 11 and its "let's send screen… |
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Post #AwYtguF9il0NkvYmFU by [email protected] |
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@nina_kali_nina not to mention the brazen readiness to produce more trash at a … |
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Post #AwaIQ3kRozNeK7DhgW by [email protected] |
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@nina_kali_nina @raynerlucas Of course it was. It reuses Asterix & Obelix&#… |
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@lispi314 @raynerlucas 🥰😆 |
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@necrophcodr @tendstofortytwo @nina_kali_nina Compare Emacs' eww.el display… |
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@lispi314 @necrophcodr @tendstofortytwo Firefox (and Netsurf) probably needs fa… |
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@rotopenguin @nina_kali_nina And what are the environmental consequences? Energ… |
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@nina_kali_ninahttps://ar.al/Know this guy? #smallweb@aral |
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@repaircaferugby @nina_kali_nina Alas, I’m building on top of Node and using … |
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@aral @repaircaferugby if only there was some sort of technology free from the … |
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@nina_kali_nina @repaircaferugby Yep. In the meanwhile, though, I’m at least … |
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@vaurora @nina_kali_nina It’s not only the huge frameworks: in a fresh Chrome… |
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@rigrig @vaurora @nina_kali_nina And it's the same on the server side ... 2… |
