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Post #Aw18LyHsNpNM9dfd1U by [email protected] | |
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It has officially begun. The CRA info request counter is no longer at zero. | |
Post #Aw18LyOxxT2yVczI4e by [email protected] | |
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"We kindly request your response by Friday, July 25, 2025"... | |
Post #Aw18LyVhYQR0qW8fZY by [email protected] | |
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@bagder Wait until they discover libcurl is used in almost everything x) | |
Post #Aw18RNG0yNwD2sNN8C by [email protected] | |
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@bagder how do you resist the temptation to just submit a form with bullshit an… | |
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@bagder I find that, for tight deadlines, a short email is often the quickest t… | |
Post #Aw1AmYXyORXW370JH6 by [email protected] | |
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@bagder "Thank you for your support inquiry. Please contact our business … | |
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Oops, I posted the reply paste in the wrong thread => https://mastodon.socia… | |
Post #Aw1C0K9Gp5FVOxZv16 by [email protected] | |
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@bagder it is emotionally satisfying to see maintainers remind corporations tha… | |
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@bagder Send them a bill. Your software might be free, but your work for consul… | |
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I could add that this is a Fortune-500 company with 17 billion USD revenue and … | |
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@bagder They're on a loser there, by the time every file in Maven Central h… | |
Post #Aw1Dulr75yOxVLZ7Jo by [email protected] | |
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@bagder State that curl doesn't comply with anything CRA requires and watch… | |
Post #Aw1E63HAfRZwia8ITo by [email protected] | |
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@bagder I got one quite similar last week.I sent them a formal Time&Materia… | |
Post #Aw1EpgtcCwGyd2sRfM by [email protected] | |
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Here are the nine questions they want answered within two weeks. | |
Post #Aw1EpgzdqX5qvjhG3k by [email protected] | |
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@bagder Not quite the questions I got, but similar outline.BTW: It is not obvio… | |
Post #Aw1G0lPTrhPPlgcrFw by [email protected] | |
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@bsdphk @bagder As with all regulations (I regularly deal with medical device r… | |
Post #Aw1JCYQYGBj2qARMxM by [email protected] | |
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@bagder I hope you politely but firmly reminded them that it is *their* obligat… | |
Post #Aw1L5uA9FXsO8Ij0YC by [email protected] | |
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@bagder I hope you will really get good money out of these requests! | |
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@bagder send them an invoice with your consultation fee and attach your answers… | |
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@joykill These types of folks will just believe it is ransomware they've be… | |
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@bagder mark as spam đ | |
Post #Aw1RfqhID8S7XEkbce by [email protected] | |
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@bagder "very dear sirs: I am not selling this software, so I am not a ven… | |
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@bagder I may have suggested the wrong approach:"Sure, that will be consul… | |
Post #Aw1RjiTmhsFdCqHCt6 by [email protected] | |
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@bagder jeez. Perhaps they should have read the CRA before jumping into action,… | |
Post #Aw1RjibEGCCpZvl9UW by [email protected] | |
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@skyrYes, there's a ton of exceptions from CRA regulations for FLOSS projec… | |
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@musevg That is an interesting document. The simple reading of this is that th… | |
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@bagder Do you do the consulting fee thing for those? Or just shrug and move on? | |
Post #Aw1Rkl4AZfNpWDnAUC by [email protected] | |
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@bagder «THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS"» | |
Post #Aw1RmmVoAalSa8gVQ8 by [email protected] | |
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@bagder "vendor" ... I suppose they have a contract? :) | |
Post #Aw1RmmcXlY9Uv1psv2 by [email protected] | |
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@ottoIIRC is that the term used in the CRA. Even if you're giving away stuf… | |
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@musevg @otto no, that's not true. You're a *manufacturer* according to… | |
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@bagder @musevg @otto Yeah they're just repurposing some boilerplate questi… | |
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@bagder wow, they outright refer to you as a "vendor"?There are so ma… | |
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@bagder Deadlines⊠I guess they will stop using curl if you donât answer by… | |
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@fubaroque in this case I actually hope that they feel pressured to get "o… | |
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@bagder They donât seem to have that option, stop using curl, is what I mean.… | |
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@zaffojj that is correct.@guenther @bagder @KevinOfComputer | |
Post #Aw1RxavVaJQNprrUUy by [email protected] | |
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@bagder youâre absolutely right to make them pay if they want bespoke work do… | |
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@bagder do you send them a quote? Or do you ignore them? | |
Post #Aw1S3P0aoBOgbt0dP6 by [email protected] | |
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@bagder There is a clause of high due dilligence in th CRA, where the vendor of… | |
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@bagder then you should give them a full refund... oh đ | |
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@bagder What questions do they ask with these things? | |
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@thejpster @bagder last time I received this kind of thing (from a German compa… | |
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@KevinOfComputer Is Secure Software Development Lifecycle followed? Do you prov… | |
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@bagder I hope your rate for boring administrative bullshit has the appropriate… | |
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@bagder Yes, you're right. I didn't remember correctly.@otto | |
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@[email protected] I wonder how many thousands of requests they're sen… | |
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@bagder Your contract with them has a clause for setting the price for urgent r… | |
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@bagder What would be the impact of simply ignoring them? | |
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@bagder Reply with: "As we can't seem to find any active, ongoing mone… | |
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@bagder I mean... If you do not answer what will they do? Replace curl and stop… | |
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@musevg @skyr right, because *they* (the commercial companies) are manufacturer… | |
Post #Aw1Sn8qjDgbloYCnlQ by [email protected] | |
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@bagder ...or else? | |
Post #Aw1SokeS9sCvLREPVw by [email protected] | |
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@bagder Your kindness is admirable. I have no complaints! | |
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@bagder Oh fun. And I'm sure they offer to pay you for your time too :) | |
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@bagder I just wonder, as they explicitly mention libcurl "Version 7.87.0&… | |
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@bagderWhat happens if you send them an email clearly stating you do none of th… | |
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@guenther @bagder @KevinOfComputer As far as I understand EU CRA, please bear w… | |
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@bagder I take my hat off to you for your restraint and politeness in respondin… | |
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@bagder Ah, so you're not actually a vendor. That simplifies things. | |
Post #Aw1T7767RUW8AmvZdA by [email protected] | |
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@bagder Cheeky bastards. | |
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@bagder "Thank you for your support inquiry. Please contact our business … | |
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@bagder I'm curious what is your answer, if any. I can imagine two, which a… | |
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@DavyJones Yes, interesting ideas in there, even though there is only a "s… | |
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@bagder Could have been today đ€Ș | |
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@christopherkunz @bagder @musevg @otto it's just lazy templated compliance … | |
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@bagder whatâs your response? A quota for the work? | |
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@bagder My company is working through various regulations like this. Unlike wha… | |
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@bagder Dear ,I havenât the motivation to answer your questions so Iâve had… | |
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@bagder I had a 4 trillion dollar company whine about the license of a transien… | |
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@[email protected] Based on https://github.blog/open-source/maintainers/wh… | |
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@divVerent I'm not a steward either. Basically no one is a steward except a… | |
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@[email protected] Thus "at most" - I don't personally think… | |
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@[email protected] I feel like some of these could be answered with a link… | |
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@mitsunee absolutely, but I suspect they want them more "formal" and … | |
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@bagder @mitsunee That costs money. Would send them polite reply saying that it… | |
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@bagder @mitsunee Answering those questions in certain ways might generate some… | |
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@blami @mitsunee on the contrary, I want that liability and that's what I w… | |
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@bagder Have you been able to sign any new contracts originating from CRA so fa… | |
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@bagder @mitsunee Yeah I meant liability without any remuneration | |
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@bagder I assume this is not from the EU directly but from someone that integra… | |
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@lars Yes, this comes straight from this company. They don't even say for w… | |
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@bagder They don't have to use curl..... | |
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@bagder @lars and reading the questions they aren't doing any due diligence… | |
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@bagder it would truly be marvelous if the CRA turns into an answer to the hist… | |
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@riffraff there is hope! | |
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@shred CRA forces them to keep security-updated so... they either pay someone t… | |
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@bagder is it at least something that can be relatively easily done? | |
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@serpentroots @christopherkunz @bagder @musevg it just so extremely annoying th… | |
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@otto @serpentroots @christopherkunz @bagder @musevg It doesn't sound like … | |
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@bagder Here's my hourly rate? | |
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@bagder Not gonna lie, I looked up the Fortune 500 list by revenue out of sheer… | |
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@bagder Reading through your posts about CRA, I think there is a chance for a C… | |
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@otto @serpentroots @musevg I think @bagder has absolutely the right approach h… | |
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@zaffojj @guenther @bagder @KevinOfComputer So it's SOUP. "Software o… | |
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@bagder Remind me how much they're paying you for this, again? | |
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@duncan_bayne @bagder 1 kindly coin I guess! | |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] The response from Arkell … | |
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@bagder"We kindly request to send the Eurodollars by Friday [...]". | |
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@nowster @bagder Yes, definitely | |
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@KevinOfComputer @bagder Ha-ha! | |
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@bagder To support your inquiry, we kindly request that you sign the attached c… | |
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@ascherbaum @bagder That! Along with "we do offer competitive rates for co… | |
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@nein @ascherbaum @bagder Hahaha, I love the idea of asking them their license … | |
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@bagder I (at webmaster@chiark) have had several vaguely like this (maybe pre-C… | |
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@Diziet @bagder @simontatham I think my answer would look something like this:I… | |
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@mirabilos @Diziet @bagder my usual answer to things of this general ilk (not C… | |
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@simontatham @Diziet @bagder I even looked this up, âvendorâ is not even th… | |
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@simontatham @mirabilos @Diziet @bagder yeah, that's a very thoughtful appr… | |
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@Diziet @bagder I don't think we've had any CRA ones yet, but it's … | |
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@bagder Is Secure Software Development Lifecycle followed for developing this c… |