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Post #AvJFM661V6WL64tekq by [email protected] |
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Once in a while I imagine how much more pleasant HTML would be to type if only … |
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Post #AvJFM6EB0n2hVMiASm by [email protected] |
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@mwichary Shiftless Text Markup Language? |
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Post #AvJFM6KCeNrZo3WyrA by [email protected] |
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@Luke @mwichary It's not to be trusted |
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Post #AvJvVA8s1WIyKIEXom by [email protected] |
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Now curious exactly why SGML chose angle brackets! Would love to see a written … |
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Post #AvJvVAGfYWXkiTslyS by [email protected] |
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This is from the standard, which I found online here: https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/… |
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Post #AvJvVANP9Tvn3N29TM by [email protected] |
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Poring over SGML Handbook from Goldfarb himself (Goldfarb is the “G” in GML… |
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Post #AvJvVAUqhnszQSW64m by [email protected] |
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Very interesting! https://jtc1info.org/sd-2-history/jtc1-subcommittees/sc-34/No… |
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Post #AvJvVAcIG7qBnY02gC by [email protected] |
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@mwichary SGML descended from GML, which descended from SCRIBE, which descended… |
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Post #AvJvVBDs0Ptlg5a3FY by [email protected] |
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I sent some emails, but I am not sure if this is going to go anywhere. It’s w… |
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Post #AvJwHvEkEIDYHvEQAi by [email protected] |
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@mwichary I explicitly do not discuss the Concrete Reference Syntax (i.e., the … |
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Post #AvJwPE6EUrZcohjWIS by [email protected] |
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@mxp Yes, but this is not getting us closer to the <> answer, and this no… |
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Post #AvJwPEBu9m6v6IO38a by [email protected] |
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@mwichary No, it doesn’t, but it shows that the decision to go with <> … |
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Post #AvJxsYO4FM6K5dciB6 by [email protected] |
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@mxp Sorry, later than what? |
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Post #AvJxsYTjuGdcNEHF1E by [email protected] |
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@mwichary Later than the 1981 paper. Given that the first working draft standar… |
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Post #AvK2IYgYA0rEMOvLVo by [email protected] |
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@mxp Sorry, not sure I follow the logic – the paper is from 1981, but talks a… |
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Post #AvK2IYnziKoQjUPI7E by [email protected] |
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@mxp This puts it no later than 1982. I just wish it was possible to see those … |
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Post #AvK2IYuNKbut3HOO3s by [email protected] |
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@mwichary Yes, I agree, and I'd also love to get my hands on these drafts�… |
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Post #AvK3PAYUNE3tVHryYC by [email protected] |
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@mwichary Once in a while, I wonder what it would be like if the guys who creat… |
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Post #AvNOBF67MxME36gByS by [email protected] |
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@bosak @erik @mwichary That's 29 years ago and I still smile every time I t… |
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Post #AvNOBXZ8hnGdKKOci0 by [email protected] |
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@mwichary Maybe @timbray has some insight here, noting that SGML inherits this … |
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Post #AvNOBXfWK4N5e7Niee by [email protected] |
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@erik @timbray The other way around, right…? |
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Post #AvNOBbpaqYo0YW7ouW by [email protected] |
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@mwichary @timbray Whoops, you’re right |
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Post #AvNOBbvcU9csrCwdIu by [email protected] |
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@erik @mwichary Um, no idea… I first saw angle-bracket markup in 1987 and it … |
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Post #AvNOCuvPLGaM40T6ie by [email protected] |
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@bosak @erik @mwichary OK Jon, but de facto, everything was angle brackets (at … |
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Post #AvNOCv1mxXgoNnSCfI by [email protected] |
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@timbray @bosak @erik Yeah, I’m curious how they became the example/default v… |
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Post #AvNOCv8sXBMQjmlriS by [email protected] |
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@mwichary @timbray @bosak @erik Were they typeable without shift on certain key… |
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Post #AvNOCvFc88kT4fvFDM by [email protected] |
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@fschaap @mwichary @bosak @erik I checked - in particular the IBM 3270 and DEC … |
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Post #AvUZDKj7s0ubgmqPDM by [email protected] |
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@mwichary I believe SGML also allowed stuff like<li/Here is a list item/as a… |
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Post #AvUZDVVhmFiF8LeLK4 by [email protected] |
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@denis @mwichary That’s the NET (null end tag?) construct https://www.w3.org/… |
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Post #Avwp1T2u9ZAlhwKyuW by [email protected] |
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More from the same person writing about “chicken scratches.” Includes a tan… |
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Post #Avwp1T9zjCqO3vedxg by [email protected] |
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Still digging.“To encourage acceptance, the authors of the SGML specification… |
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Post #Avwp1TGjKAEQOoo1Sa by [email protected] |
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Thanks to my emails but also people who were participating today, I got an emai… |
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Post #Avwp1TMkxl3IhVcpqy by [email protected] |
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This is the earliest appearance of < > I know of today, from 1979.This th… |
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Post #Avwp1TSmbLsB0CReFM by [email protected] |
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This might be more interesting. <P1> and <P2>! <#> for stylin… |
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Post #Avwp1TZWCJGDL5b1kG by [email protected] |
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They are *killing me*. In the old article about the history of it that I just d… |
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Post #Avwp1TgFnGeFfykPFA by [email protected] |
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They really are killing me. |
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Post #Avwp1TmzOE2I0rtmk4 by [email protected] |
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Fired some interlibrary requests. Wish me luck! |
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Post #Avwp1Tsf38ZaISYJaC by [email protected] |
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Is this going to go anywhere? Unclear. But I like this part. |
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Post #Avwp1TzOe5xcdLhh56 by [email protected] |
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I like scanning and putting up interlibrary stuff on Internet Archive. This is … |
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Post #Avwp37uzfz2slEQcNc by [email protected] |
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@mwichary this is a fun rabbit hole you've fallen into here!As someone who … |
