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Post #AvIFTV5klthvUMLBL6 by [email protected] |
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So to recap something that happened yesterday, as I see it:Yesterday Mastodon g… |
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The problems I saw raised were:Raised by me: The new intellectual property clau… |
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Post #AvIFTVhgUs35O05TSi by [email protected] |
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When they announced this, Mastodon didn't seem to realize their new terms w… |
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Post #AvIFTW1XJ3vcNZNKPA by [email protected] |
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This is not over. Mastodon is, I hope? getting better legal advice now— I kno… |
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Post #AvIFTWKKBCxPJqAKgq by [email protected] |
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The big problem, as I see it, is that Mastodon is now opening the pandora's… |
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Post #AvIFTWcl4fhcF0n3QG by [email protected] |
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What we need, for this to work out better next time, is actual community engage… |
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Post #AvIFTWvXwojPBHa3hw by [email protected] |
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Postscript: Cripes, the 500 character limit really starts to chafe for this kin… |
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Post #AvIeOJnJqSARrBLNZ2 by [email protected] |
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@mcc I (and we) appreciate the detailed feedback and will work with the folks i… |
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Post #AvIeTAdTKC8ito3GVM by [email protected] |
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@mcc I would voice a strong objection to EFF. US legal advice has a color that … |
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Post #AvIeTAlGrCNVHzhUf2 by [email protected] |
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@mcc We have the FSFE and the Eclipses lawyer firms are mostly in Germany. We&#… |
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Post #AvIeTRJtIFZse01MqO by [email protected] |
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@mcc re: thinking yhe TOS is publicly accesible because it's been on the Gi… |
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Post #AvIefyYzWKKvDq3tku by [email protected] |
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@skade My OSS project was looking into the Eclipse Foundation and they seemed t… |
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Post #AvIer8AS9VsmC7u4a8 by [email protected] |
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@mcc FSFE is not FSF. They are very much independent organisations. (I literall… |
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Post #AvIer8HBkTGoX13S52 by [email protected] |
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@skade I'm glad to hear that, about the FSFE. |
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Post #AvIer8giDZgdoAzprc by [email protected] |
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@mcc The FSFE is a strong lobby organisation to the EU, so they care a lot abou… |
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Post #AvIesmGgXrTSqzbUSO by [email protected] |
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@skade Well, I'm not the person to raise that objection to. I notice Andy P… |
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Post #AvIeu0SLHPxN99dsB6 by [email protected] |
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@mcc Whenever I read about arbitration clauses I laugh because it shows REALLY … |
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Post #AvIeu0YMv0mFRqSgZU by [email protected] |
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@Johns_priv I hope they will not keep the arbitration clause. |
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Post #AvIezWmiVhSsrNnyPw by [email protected] |
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@mcc the TOS should be handled like the creation of the GPL V3. There was a loo… |
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Post #AvIfACrutkyOHDKTQm by [email protected] |
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@mcc Thank you for spending the time needed to engage with this (and for explai… |
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Post #AvIfL2Vpk6bDLKAKJ6 by [email protected] |
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@mcc it's a testament to the predatory nature of the american legal system … |
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Post #AvIfPOBz4z9PjwxHqy by [email protected] |
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@mcc I really want to assume good faith but "we didn't think this woul… |
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Post #AvIfaosgBxz5hONNhI by [email protected] |
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@mcc I appreciate that @Mastodon is backing off and reviewing these changes aft… |
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Post #AvIffIO8QUjaNADugS by [email protected] |
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@mcc Coming from NGO organizing, I get the feeling Mastodon would benefit a lot… |
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Post #AvIfhoA1Gi8TUYoqLA by [email protected] |
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@aburka @mcc I think good faith is warranted here. They responded to feedback e… |
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Post #AvImILJM5meUSMzRwG by [email protected] |
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@mcc In this entire discussion I've seen zero people go "It is at leas… |
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Post #AvIrtvhaFqfJo245aq by [email protected] |
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@daemon_nova Well, first off, since I haven't permitted use of my content f… |
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Post #AvIrtvnxs7lm7p3BXU by [email protected] |
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@mcc it was explicitly stated in the e-mail about the ToS change that this is a… |
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Post #AvIrtvuLUOsERc2HU8 by [email protected] |
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@mcc Second of all, personally holding the idea that your content isn't all… |
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Post #AvIrtw0j6fyglP1NQm by [email protected] |
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@mcc Furthemore, a large instance like mastodon.social actually making _some ki… |
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Post #AvIrwFAwp67cmVu3iS by [email protected] |
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@daemon_nova Yes, the email is not legally binding, the TOS is |
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Post #AvIrxk4RRRB0tGZfzE by [email protected] |
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@daemon_nova But it isn't. Allowed to be used for AI training, I mean. They… |
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Post #AvJK8LchTT0cyCRbAO by [email protected] |
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@sjolsen wouldn't they have gotten a German lawyer?@mcc |
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Post #AvJK8Lij73pVGtGPYm by [email protected] |
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@alter_kaker @sjolsen maybe, but much of their TOS is about American law anyway… |
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Post #AvJKBWtW1aVunOpJE8 by [email protected] |
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@mcc I wish there was a platform that didn't think that implementing a feat… |
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@mcc It was ambiguous if other federated servers counted as "users" u… |
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Post #AvJKCtFkNiCyQfsFXc by [email protected] |
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@luana Yes, that was my thought, but here's the thing: **One of the functio… |
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Post #AvJKCtMpxLsamfBuam by [email protected] |
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@mcc @luana Yes, this! So much this!It's also one of my major gripes with t… |
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Post #AvJKD0o2IcnNr2yESW by [email protected] |
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@lunarood @mcc @luana as a somewhat-accidental promoter of public-domain-equiva… |
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Post #AvJKD0vTqwkaE8SB3w by [email protected] |
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@r @lunarood @luana but what if laypeople write software |
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Post #AvJKD11VUXZSWpGzSK by [email protected] |
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@mcc @r @luana yes, I echo this.My point in bringing up software licensing was … |
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Post #AvJKD4WoSbOZOmwXAW by [email protected] |
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@lunarood @mcc @luana of course, the discussion is *much* more complicated if y… |
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Post #AvJKDyR4b84unCgjzs by [email protected] |
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@markrprior What does this mean? |
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Post #AvJKDyXSDPBN6zfpwW by [email protected] |
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@mcc if you use the nodeinfo api to query a gotosocial instance for information… |
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Post #AvJKDyeBoMZPRspDRQ by [email protected] |
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@markrprior @mcc more specifically, it was in reaction to a specific database t… |
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Post #AvJKDykZQdfrlfoJO4 by [email protected] |
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@markrprior @mcc note that the fiddle option is fully under the control of the … |
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Post #AvJKDz4QEpYOlF6AKW by [email protected] |
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@mcc for examplelook at https://gunbark.dev/nodeinfo/2.1 'usage… |
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Post #AvJKGooCqZ9tnurhUO by [email protected] |
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@ireneista @mcc except it is up to the instance admin to know and ensure that t… |
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Post #AvJKI4ysCm2OFaSJwe by [email protected] |
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@lunarood @luana personally I like the GPLv2 better than the GPLv3 because it&#… |
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Post #AvJKI54tqMrGYHH8L2 by [email protected] |
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@mcc @luana I tend to agree. Though I wouldn't say either of them is legall… |
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@mcc that was where we were with it, too. we thought not saying anything was th… |
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@mcc @lunarood @luana oh!as in, a license to give to "laypeople who acquir… |
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@mcc go know @sjolsen |
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@markrprior @mcc the guy running the database responded by being, essentially, … |
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Post #AvJKZZiPBkYKUi5zPc by [email protected] |
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@r @lunarood @luana well my point is i write software, and i would consider mys… |
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@ireneista @mcc really depends on whether you want the instance to be discovera… |
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@markrprior @mcc we're not sure which point of ours that's intended as … |
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@ireneista @mcc that the fiddle option is safe if you respect the robots.txt fi… |
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@markrprior @mcc oh, we weren't trying to say it's safe. your point see… |
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Post #AvJgPYq5mxXXsCJyeu by [email protected] |
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@markrprior @mcc we're kind of against measuring people without affirmative… |
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@markrprior @ireneista @mcc you're very wrong, by default GTS manages the r… |
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@Ember @ireneista @mcc "by default" is key. It assumes that it exists… |
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@markrprior @Ember @ireneista @mcc so fucking weird that the instance I'm o… |
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@cold @Ember @ireneista @mcc I'm not saying you are Fediversing wrong. I am… |
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@markrprior @cold @Ember @mcc we want to reiterate that we have at no point mad… |
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@ireneista @cold @Ember @mcc maybe "safe" is the wrong word. In the c… |
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@markrprior @cold @Ember @mcc oh, fair. we don't necessarily endorse (or kn… |
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@ireneista @cold @Ember @mcc from my point of view an API is a source of truth.… |
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@markrprior @ireneista @Ember @mcc I care more about my ecosystem being safe fo… |
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@markrprior @cold @Ember @mcc we also don't know who said that to you about… |
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Post #AvJggXhJHpBnFtJKfA by [email protected] |
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@mcc also regarding the 500 character limit you might be interested in investig… |
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Post #AvJghdaEt7wBneWe5A by [email protected] |
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@markrprior and? Have you considered just... Not scraping information? |
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Post #AvJghdgyU5KE8Xg1a4 by [email protected] |
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@Ember and what about those instances and users that are happy to make basic st… |
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@markrprior @ireneista @cold @mcc a legitimate client that needs correct info t… |
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@ireneista @mcc well assuming it's a single user instance then wildebeest&#… |
