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Looking at the reports of some systems failing to boot after the latest UEFI DB… | |
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We ended up writing some hilariously crappy workarounds for Linux to prevent th… | |
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I can't remember how I figured this out, but the affected machines would tr… | |
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Fucking computers, man | |
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@mjg59 Fucking UEFI. The ring -1 (or is it -42 now? does anyone even know or ca… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 UEFI and ACPI solve the problem of booting the same image on a w… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 Device tree solves that problem. UEFI and ACPI both addre… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 Device tree would be a solution if all of the board-specific cod… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 If there was a way to force vendors to upstream all of their boa… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 Sorry, I wasn't clear. I don't mean it's a wa… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 I'm one of them, but look at the situation in the Arm world … | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 The only reason it "works" on x86 is that every… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 the root cause of all of this is that hardware vendors don't… | |
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@alwayscurious @dalias device tree fundamentally doesn't solve the "I … | |
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@mjg59 @alwayscurious It does if your thermal sensor driver is independent and … | |
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@dalias @mjg59 the install image from last year still would not have the driver… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 This is largely the fault of Linux being a monolithic mes… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 to solve that, you would need:User expectations that they must u… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 The root cause is that they don't properly document h… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 what about documenting it in a machine-readable form that can be… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 You don't need the "install image". You set… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 That doesn't work if the storage is not removable, and even … | |
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@dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 yeah we've had enough ACPI problems in recent… | |
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@dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 ACPI was a big barrier to Linux compatibility bac… | |
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@dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 then everyone basically got their shit together a… | |
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@dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 ... but just last month we ran into a problem whe… | |
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@dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 sorry, "at war" is overly dramatic and … | |
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@dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 and, like... yeah. you have a good point. this la… | |
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@dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 oh, yes, and at no point did manufacturers actual… | |
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@ireneista @dalias @mjg59 A law requiring hardware to have documentation that i… | |
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@mjg59 retooting this one alone out of context, because its a sentiment we can … | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 Theoretically that would be lovely. But a sufficiently ex… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 did you know that power management nowadays involves hard-realti… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 That's good, it means it should operate independently… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 Nah, that code should be open source and must be trusted. See P… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 What attacks do you have in mind if it has no communicati… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 Fault injection, stealing crypto secrets via power analysis, may… | |
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@ireneista @dalias @alwayscurious @mjg59 when I started seeing ACPI errors agai… | |
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@amy @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscurious yeah there's some new spec we've for… | |
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@ireneista @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscuriousInteresting. I agree that seems .. bad.… | |
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@amy @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscurious oh, wow, fascinating. we remember when that … | |
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@amy @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscurious there was never really a satisfying solution… | |
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@amy @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscurious (from what we can tell it really is true tha… | |
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@amy @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscurious we wouldn't necessarily object to offloa… | |
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@ireneista @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscurious yes - a standard interface to allow ma… | |
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@amy @mjg59 @dalias @alwayscurious they have near-zero commercial incentive to … | |
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@ireneista @amy @mjg59 @dalias and apparently lots to not make it happen, judgi… | |
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@mjg59 and theyr users man, who use the same password in multiple places, get o… | |
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@alwayscurious @mjg59 I claim it's far weaker than a cpu backdoor because y… | |
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@dalias @mjg59 Ah, that makes sense. Also, it doesn't interfere with OS sc… |