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It's important to get an experimental release out quickly to begin extensiv… | |
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Google has released a statement claiming AOSP is not being discontinued. This s… | |
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Google is in the process of likely having the company broken up due to losing a… | |
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The leaked information we received in April 2025 indicates that the reasoning t… | |
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Google has been accelerating their crackdown on alternate mobile hardware and s… | |
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It's no wonder that Android and Chrome engineers at Google are leaking tons… | |
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A successful mobile OS will need near perfect iOS or Android app compatibility.… | |
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For years, Google has been using extraordinarily anti-competitive Google Mobile… | |
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If the Pixel 10 does meet our requirements, we'll support it, but it will t… | |
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Once an OEM offering the service of making custom devices has a platform based … | |
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The baseline will be several million dollars, which can be spread out across th… | |
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There will be a cost of a million or more dollars per year of additional suppor… | |
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@WiFiHugger @GrapheneOS Look at sales for Skyecc alone, ya there’s a market h… | |
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@GrapheneOS on one side a GrapheneOS device would be a cool opportunity.On the … | |
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@w00p Agreed, so we would continue supporting new Pixels as long as they met ou… | |
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@w00p It will be much harder to add Pixel 10 support after what they've don… | |
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@GrapheneOS kudos to your work. Not easy to adapt to such an abrupt change, eve… | |
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@WiFiHugger Yes, there's a market for it and we're confident that we ca… | |
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@GrapheneOS Wouldn't it be less complicated to collaborate with other brand… | |
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@frej Fairphone's devices have atrocious security and very poor long term f… | |
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@frej Our hardware requirements are listed at https://grapheneos.org/faq#future… | |
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@frej Working with a company like Fairphone not currently capable of making a s… | |
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@GrapheneOS @frej One additional security feature could be using the upstream G… | |
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@Suiseiseki Connecting a modem via USB exposes an enormous amount of attack sur… | |
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@Suiseiseki Your claims about the Pinephone modem firmware are extraordinarily … | |
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@Suiseiseki The OS that's normally directly using the baseband is the one r… | |
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@Suiseiseki Your claim about the overall Pinephone hardware and firmware are ex… | |
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@Suiseiseki No amount of posting more of your huge amounts of false claims, fab… | |
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@GrapheneOS finally, this is what i've been wanting. A GrapheneOS mobile de… | |
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@Suiseiseki Pinephones have absolutely atrocious privacy and security at a hard… | |
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@Suiseiseki Pinephones are closed source hardware with closed source firmware. … | |
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@Suiseiseki There's a misconception that the Pinephone is open hardware, bu… | |
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@GrapheneOS I can’t say it often enough: You guys are doing a great job. It�… | |
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@NebulaTide @GrapheneOS personally I see this as a win, I only get a new phone … | |
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@GrapheneOS isn't it just waydroid you're describing...? | |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] no, since waydroid is for linu… | |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] but, lilith kernel is | |
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@GrapheneOS I hope a good candidate is found a a deal struck.It would be import… | |
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@GrapheneOS will devices that were once promised 7 years of support lining up w… | |
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@GrapheneOS We need to accept this and look for legal avenues, which is also ve… | |
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@Suiseiseki Decent phones have far better security than laptop/desktop class ha… | |
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@Suiseiseki Librem 5 also has a huge amount of proprietary firmware despite the… | |
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@Suiseiseki Not patching privacy and security vulnerabilities does not make you… | |
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@Suiseiseki The modem used by the Pinephone was made for Windows. The company c… | |
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@Suiseiseki Your claim that the Pinephone baseband has a uniquely open source u… | |
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@Suiseiseki It's also trivial for an attacker with temporary access to the … | |
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@Suiseiseki You're completely wrong about the status of the Pinephone's… | |
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@Suiseiseki Having firmware stored on components or hard-wired in a way that it… | |
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@tauon Waydroid is an extraordinarily insecure project implemented in a highly … | |
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@GrapheneOS @Suiseiseki > connected to the main CPU via very high attacksurf… | |
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@GrapheneOS @tauon Hey @Liberux, I would be really interested in your take on t… | |
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@Natanox @tauon @Liberux Anything using Waydroid is running Android apps withou… | |
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@Natanox @tauon @Liberux Far less secure hardware, firmware and software not do… | |
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@Natanox @tauon @Liberux We don't want to go from Android to something wors… | |
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@GrapheneOS @WiFiHugger I absolutely would be willing to find my checkbook to p… | |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] What about … | |
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@raccoon @Suiseiseki @GrapheneOS read this: https://grapheneos.social/@Graphene… | |
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@GrapheneOS don't forget to use same Sony sensors as Pixel cameras then :) | |
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@Kavus We plan to support them for their whole lifetime. It just may take us lo… | |
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@[email protected] yes, i saw your other post. i wasn't aware of… | |
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@GrapheneOS Let's be realistic, only about 2000 people sponsor the project … | |
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@flashbackdealer GitHub is a tiny portion of the donations we receive. We recei… | |
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@GrapheneOS On a side note, 5 years of upgrade *after the last unit is sold* wi… | |
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@benoit @GrapheneOS I second the good camera requirement. GrapheneOS being excl… | |
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@GrapheneOS I am sick of all of this monopolistic abuse of power and the ones i… | |
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@GrapheneOS > We have talked with a couple OEMs.Which ? | |
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@GrapheneOSWould this be a good opportunity to make something that competes wit… | |
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@light We don't currently have the resources for that. | |
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What the estimate $ ? | |
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Ever considered Fairphone as OEM? | |
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@7de3def8d21199c5ac7b82735cb3b6fb4837dfbc3cd3130b8ff085d50c384b43 Fairphone'… | |
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@7de3def8d21199c5ac7b82735cb3b6fb4837dfbc3cd3130b8ff085d50c384b43 Our hardware … | |
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@GrapheneOS We need to be realistic. Info about microkernel based OS was for at… | |
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@dev0null GrapheneOS is already a Linux distribution and it's one of the bi… | |
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@dev0null The Linux kernel is not well audited/reviewed. It has atrocious secur… | |
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@GrapheneOS I though moving graphene as a virtual os for isolation, security an… | |
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@dev0null We will be using the AOSP-based GrapheneOS to run the AOSP-based Grap… | |
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@dev0null The way it would work is proxying the stuff the app or group of apps … | |
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@dev0null QubesOS is essentially an example of what we're talking about but… | |
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@dev0null We've quite successfully blocked real world exploits by forensic … | |
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@dev0null Defending the Linux kernel against applications is essentially hopele… | |
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@GrapheneOS SELinux is in linux kernel, virtualization as well. If waydroid is … | |
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@GrapheneOS well that's sad state for linux | |
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@Mik3y Fairphone's devices have atrocious security and very poor long term … | |
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@GrapheneOS @Mik3y do you mind to elaborate the "atrocious security",… | |
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@utf_7 @Mik3y No secure element so disk encryption doesn't work for the maj… | |
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@utf_7 @Mik3y We're currently super concerned that AOSP has made changes wh… | |
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@Mik3y Our hardware requirements are listed at https://grapheneos.org/faq#futur… | |
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@GrapheneOS @utf_7 @Mik3y does this only apply to the yearly major updates or i… | |
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@Infernal_pizza @utf_7 @Mik3y The biggest issue will be with this Android 16 up… | |
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@Infernal_pizza @utf_7 @Mik3y There is a whole lot to fix about the port based … | |
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@utf_7 @Mik3y We don't think a year or more of delay for a yearly update is… | |
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@utf_7 @Mik3y Those are the main problems which we consider to be not meeting b… | |
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Is your current perception that a competive device could be produced by a small… | |
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@356875ffd729b06eeb4c1d7a70a1f750045d067774d21c0faffe4af2bf96a2e8 It would be p… | |
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How much does this matter in practice?nevent1qqsrcwg6d92ktcqxa4yszerajlv6m4gvgf… | |
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@356875ffd729b06eeb4c1d7a70a1f750045d067774d21c0faffe4af2bf96a2e8 It isn't … | |
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@356875ffd729b06eeb4c1d7a70a1f750045d067774d21c0faffe4af2bf96a2e8 We still plan… | |
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@356875ffd729b06eeb4c1d7a70a1f750045d067774d21c0faffe4af2bf96a2e8 We had hoped … | |
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@dev0null SELinux is not something which is simply on or off. Using it properly… | |
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@dev0null GrapheneOS exists to build a more private and secure OS, not a far le… | |
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@dev0null Using hardware-based virtualization in a similar way to QubesOS is ho… | |
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@GrapheneOS @dev0null Qubes OS also isolates drivers. Is this something you al… | |
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@dev0null We are going to be using AOSP regardless because we need broad compat… | |
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@bkk EncroChat, Sky ECC and similar devices/services were mostly used by actual… | |
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@GrapheneOS I can't help feeling that Android being detached from Google wo… |