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Why Bell Labs worked so well, and could innovate so much, while today’s innov… | |
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@fabio this really does explain the decline of progress since I've been ali… | |
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@fabio Well said! | |
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@fabio Yes! Yes! Yes!I spent my working life in the BBC's engineering resea… | |
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@fabio his name isn’t in any of those lists, but my grandpa worked at NJ Bell… | |
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@fabio Kelly's question “Why would you expect information theory from som… | |
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@fabio Your point about the relative brutality of academia, especially for juni… | |
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@fabio I think I was in the last generation where it was possible to have a car… | |
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@mattblaze @fabio I am not sure that your point applies merely to academia. I … | |
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@fabio I should also note that I *like* academia. Teaching and even (much of) t… | |
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@brainwagon @fabio There was a golden age of corporate-sponsored research that … | |
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@mattblaze @brainwagon @fabio mmm. I was at GE-CRD when Neutron Jack took over.… | |
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@mattblaze @brainwagon @fabio (A different kind of R&D vs the ones driven b… | |
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@scanner @brainwagon @fabio Basic research, as opposed to product-directed R&am… | |
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@mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio Hence my idea for the League of Extraord… | |
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@fabio Relevant to this is what David Graeber calls bullshit jobs -- jobs that … | |
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@fabio in short, the secret is management. I quite agree.However I think the re… | |
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@Lazarou @fabio British Telecom also had a similar research lab on a smaller sc… | |
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@fabio I saw an example of this up close back when I briefly worked at Google, … | |
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@fabioThis appeared in my timeline a few toots below yours. It summarizes the p… | |
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@Lazarou @fabio I worked snd HP Laboratories-and yes, you can do lots of intere… | |
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@mattblaze @fabio Louder for the admin staff in the back! | |
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@fabio Great post. Minor point: the 1956 cable was not the first communications… | |
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@fabio great post! | |
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@fabio Well said. For anyone working in electronics engineering prior to the mi… | |
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@fabio not disagreeing, but adding: especially the post war decades were boom t… | |
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@fabio "...but we just ended up treating whatever narrow iterative feature… | |
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@fabio I'd like to add a data point.Google X (where I worked for several ye… | |
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@fabio How do you account for Xerox PARC, though? | |
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@fabio I think theres a lot of truth to this but the "simple models explai… | |
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@fabio some economists tried to make a model to answer the question "are w… | |
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@stevel @Lazarou the Bell model was actually strikingly simple: AT&T and it… | |
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@elilla the 20% of free R&D time is something that resonates a lot with me.… | |
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@fabio the stories from my grandfather who worked at Bell for a long time were … | |
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@fabio "Compare that way of working with today’s backlogs, metrics, micr… | |
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@dpiponi this is a very valuable insight. I was actually thinking of Google X a… | |
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@elilla @fabio recalling a friend working at Google in that time period who com… | |
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@fabio I think a lot about Shuji Nakamura. He was given a mandate to research G… | |
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@mattblaze @brainwagon @fabio Steel companies, oil companies, and railroads onc… | |
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@Mabande @fabio oh wow that second beat. Nice! | |
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@fabio I don't understand the "why would you expect information theory… | |
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@fabio it is about putting the right people in the right environment with the r… | |
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@elilla @fabio admin/data management rather than tech, but I had a sort of simi… | |
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@fabio This is partly right but not entirely. The innovators at Bell Labs were … | |
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@fabio That is, for a Bell Labs researcher to get resources beyond their own ef… | |
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@fabio Reminds me of a tour I was on at Oak Ridge National laboratories. The gu… | |
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@fabio really great post, thanks for sharing. People sacrifice their hobbies or… | |
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@fabio Just this morning I think I tooted that, in your terms, that I'd kil… | |
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@ChuckMcManis @mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio Chuck's _League of Ext… | |
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@fabio Totally | |
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@unfmeghan @fabio “The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to … | |
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@ChuckMcManis @mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio This would be a good start… | |
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@AnnieG @mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio My not very recently updated doc… | |
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@fabio I miss the United States I thought I was growing up in, the one where in… | |
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@nemesis @fabio sounds like "everything that can be invented has been inve… | |
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@fabio Thank you, great piece!I have often been telling folks lately tech is br… | |
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@oddhack @fabio @elilla A ridiculous thing."Once you've worked twice w… | |
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@fabio this is very good, but it underestimates the amount of low hanging fruit… | |
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@fabio I can't read a post this long. I will say we had better scientists b… | |
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@not2b of course, it wasn't exactly like "give engineers a lab and let… | |
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@fabio Indeed. A marxist would go a step further and say that, the same way cap… | |
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@fabio People also used to talk a lot more about politics and political systems… | |
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@ShadSterling @unfmeghan @fabio I think of that Le Guin quote often, it gives m… | |
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@fabio Fun post. I was fortunate to work with a peripheral offshoot of the Labs… | |
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Note: interesting takes both, not sure if I agree entirely with either, but wor… | |
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@fabio Fantastic analysis. Thanks for posting! | |
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@fabio Something else that a former Bell Labs researcher once told me (he's… | |
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@fabio They were working with (or were) aliens! :-) | |
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@fabio "The Idea Factory" (mentioned in your blog post) is a great bo… | |
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@fabio I used to do emerging technology research for big companies. This Wharto… | |
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@fabio Thanks for this post, as a software engineering manager being asked to s… | |
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@fabio In the UK, the BBC research establishment at Kingswood Warren had a simi… | |
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@fabioAnother successful innovation model was MIT's Media Lab founded in th… | |
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@fabio @TidalFlats my advisor in grad school spent 30 years at bell labs. After… | |
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@fabio Pure research was one of the great values of the Bell model.It wasn'… | |
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@fabio I can't boost this twice, sadly. | |
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@MxVerda that's probably the beauty of that statement - that it can be inte… | |
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@fabio A lot of this echoes some of the points made by Ron Avitzur in a 2004 bl… | |
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@fabio Bravo! | |
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@fabio Now imagine Universal Basic Income and these kind of people will tinker … | |
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@fabio I dont have a full model to describe this idea yet. But I am 90% sure th… | |
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@MxVerda @fabio Babysitter in the sense of surveillance camera. Not in the sens… | |
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@fabio @not2b Arno and Bob were just cleaning the bird poop out of their microw… | |
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"(...) wie Shannon es selbst ausdrückte:Ich bin immer meinen Interessen n… | |
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@fabio @stevel @Lazarou Your point about more brilliance and money being wasted… | |
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@fabio TFW autistic deciphering XD | |
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@fabio @dpiponi Not part of Google X, I think, but we shouldn’t ignore that G… | |
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@codinghorror Since the low-hanging fruit was grabbed in an environment that al… | |
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@fabio >And at the time the idea of people paying taxes, so talented people … | |
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@fabio @stevel @Lazarou This is what I've been trying to do with my researc… | |
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@fabio one might say that the huge profits today's companies make are the i… | |
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@fabio My boss used to laugh when I told them that my main job is to shield the… | |
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@fabio @stevel @Lazarou Do you suppose that that’s what the Chinese are doing… | |
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@fabio "Humanity first.Profit will follow."SearingTruth | |
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@fabio I agree that managing for short-term profit is part of the problem. But,… | |
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@mattblaze @fabio Sad but true. | |
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@fabio just adding to the list of discoveries, but Penzias and Wilson were work… | |
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@shom @fabio the difficulty curve is not linear, the unpredictable part is radi… | |
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@ChuckMcManis @mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio Paging Lee Felsenstein! | |
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@lou @mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio Yeah, Lee and I started thinking ab… | |
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@fabio good read! I'd personally put more emphasis on the current generatio… | |
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@fabio out of everything, however, the comment on information theory not coming… | |
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@brainwagon @mattblaze @fabio Also sad but true | |
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@fabio Check Newton’s biography. He would never have survived in present day … | |
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@mattblaze@fabio As a data point in current academia, one unit at our universit… | |
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@sphealey @mattblaze @brainwagon @fabio Even auto makers are heavily replacing … | |
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@fabio Leftist ideology can blind one to some real causes of culture and innova… | |
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@fabio I'm not a genius by any metric, but I have a curious mind and starte… | |
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@[email protected] A real pleasure to read. Thank you. Some fascinating … | |
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@fabio Agreed, but note pure research was ~7% of Bell Labs. For more info, see:… | |
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@codinghorror @fabio there are many low hanging fruits if you don't expect … | |
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@sinvega @elilla all that sounds remarkably like USSR work culture@fabio | |
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Strikes true. Yet at the other end of the same story is that the 1% AT&T re… | |
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@fabio Also noteworthy however that "geniuses" are probably not the o… | |
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@krono @mattblaze @fabio Which admin staff would those be? Because every librar… | |
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@krono @mattblaze @fabio So instead of being able to help our teams are cut to … | |
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@krono @mattblaze @fabio Not really aimed at you, you just hit a sore spot here… | |
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@aspensmonster @fabio Will the Chinese "menace" of communist state dr… | |
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@elilla @fabio I left Google in 2009 - I'd started in 2004.There were a cou… | |
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@nichtich @fabio things like real artificial intelligence and actual self drivi… | |
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@mattblaze@fabio Follow-up: So why don't the rest of the university follow,… | |
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@mattblaze @fabio Being a scientist under the HHMI umbrella grants this freedom… | |
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@ELS @fabio @stevel @Lazarou Sure feels lile that, from what I see and hear. | |
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@fabio Find the inventors, the enthusiasts, the makers and fixers. Give them wh… | |
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yesterday I was talking about my brief stint at Google back in 2008 and how dys… | |
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when I posted that fatidical internal Blogger post on "Is the 20% time a l… | |
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@codinghorror @shom I personally struggle to embrace the “we’ve already gra… | |
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@fabio @shom not all of it, but there's an exponential scale here. It's… | |
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@vfrmedia @Lazarou @fabio Philips had its NAT Lab in the Netherlands. Also very… | |
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@fabio well basically, the reason is capitalism. Capitalism in its end stage fo… | |
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a small anecdote.when you joined Google, you were quickly overwhelmed by massiv… | |
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I wasn't out as trans yet, but I was already proud to be queer. showed up w… | |
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I was always abstractly an anarchist, but in many ways passing by Google was my… | |
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@fabio @shom and/or cold fusion , go on, I dare you, I triple -- no, quad -- do… | |
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@fabio @shom you could throw TRILLIONS of dollars and time at cold fusion -- or… | |
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@azonenberg @fabio @Lazarou Ignoring social barriers to spare time work (all th… | |
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@azonenberg @fabio @Lazarou I'm now curious about your crazy distributed bu… | |
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@stevel @fabio @Lazarou It did compiling, linking, and test running including h… | |
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@azonenberg @fabio @Lazarou this is pretty awesome! One of my first bits of Had… | |
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@stevel @fabio @Lazarou When you bring hardware into the mix it gets 20x harder | |
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@fabio @Zendadaist Actually quite a lot of telecom operators still have advance… | |
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@fabio @Zendadaist There are exceptions. The Japanese operators still do v inte… | |
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@stevel @Lazarou @fabio You'll miss out on a huge amount of talent and inno… | |
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@glasspusher @fabio When I was a kid, one of my friend's dad worked at Bell… | |
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@osma you’re hitting a very good point here.As someone who is quite vocal aga… | |
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@geoffl @stevel @Lazarou indeed, Kelly wasn’t focused on degrees either. Read… | |
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@fabio @osma I scanned 95% of the replies to see if someone had brought up the … | |
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It was a golden age of research and so many factors contributed. One can't … | |
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@wvlith @vfrmedia @Lazarou Philips is that company that somehow managed to do a… | |
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one day, shortly before I was fired, the 2008 crisis had hit full force, the Ph… | |
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I'm not sure it would have to be inevitable, given all the complex factors.… | |
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What I'm trying to say that while Cold War and monopoly revenue streams bot… | |
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@fabio it worked because capitalism wasn't yet in its narcissistic psychopa… | |
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@fabio @elilla one of the great tradgedies of my career was that half way throu… | |
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@fabio this is the summary: “Tech has become all about monetization nowadays … | |
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@fabio the best job I ever had was working at MIT Lincoln Laboratories. There w… | |
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@fabio That's how I got my dream job, although I did have quals which were … | |
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@TidalFlats @fabio my dad drove by bell labs on his way to work. He would point… | |
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@fabio Makes a lot of sense at least from my personal experience.I work at a re… | |
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@fabio About the brilliant people who convince others to click on links: I rece… | |
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@fabio @stevel @Lazarou At a societal level you're making a beautiful argum… | |
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@fabio One of the key enablers for Bell Labs was AT&T was a regulated monop… | |
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@fabio One could argue that information technology kept going from strength to … | |
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@fabio Another place that did a lot of productive research was Xerox PARC, part… | |
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ok so the thread above, about my dystopic experiences selling out for Google, c… | |
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@fabio For a more comprehensive list of Higgs boson people, see:https://en.m.wi… | |
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@fabio The major reason boils down to two letters: "H.R. " and one wo… | |
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@fabio Bell Labs was basically the modern day engineering version of a lord spo… | |
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@petrichor @krono @fabio I don't think anyone said anything suggesting that… | |
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@mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio Agreed, basic research = R1 in this clas… | |
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@elilla sorry luv but that’s a TLDR this morning . I did skim and were you c… | |
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@MishaVanMollusq thank you for your unsolicited opinion. no, this is quite diff… | |
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@elilla how do you think you want to work it up?You were talking about a rewrit… | |
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@elilla good post, many agree. even though I worked for them in a different cou… | |
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the memoir of my dystopic time at Google now features illustrations! one for ea… | |
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@elilla @Computer ⬆️ someone is complaining ! | |
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@elilla bookmarked to show my boomer mom to explain why tech is awful now and w… | |
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@elilla Brilliant, fascinating, wonderfully well written. Don’t cut a single … | |
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@elilla it’s still a wall of textyou done wrote the torah | |
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@[email protected] this was excellent, thank you. | |
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@mattblaze @fabio agreed. If the academic world had valued teaching more I migh… | |
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@albertcardona @ELS @fabio @stevel @Lazarou They fund their kids to go out to H… | |
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@mattblaze Society is facing a serious problem, where rampant capitalism swamps… | |
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@brainwagon @mattblaze Don't forget the "busy work", of which the… | |
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@jdlh @ChuckMcManis @mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio They probably forgot… | |
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@lostgen @fabio My wife works/ed like that, and her team were/are incredibly lo… | |
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@codinghorror @nichtich @fabio Self driving cars don't need that, at all. R… | |
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@PixelJones @fabio I could get with that. Wouldn't even need much seed fund… | |
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@ELS @fabio yeah, it's depressing! But, go find a Hacklab. It's exactly… | |
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@mvario @fabio And now even NASA doesn't get much money, and it just hands … | |
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@fabio I like the article, but holy cow! Talk about needless redirections to ge… | |
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@joschi the reason for the redirects is that I wanted to make the original arti… | |
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@fabio @joschi Niether of those links actually gets me to the article... | |
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@Dss @mattblaze There are all sorts of bullshit jobs, not just busy work. Grae… | |
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@brainwagon @mattblaze They aren't the same thing. Bullshit jobs are differ… | |
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@osma @Josh_Gallagher @fabio Bell Labs, and indeed AT&T, didn't make as… | |
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As I noted - the tax and regulation regime changed. Rent-seeking and profit-gra… | |
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@osma @Josh_Gallagher @fabio 100% agree.Rent seeking is a terrible thing, and w… | |
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@Dss @mattblaze Graebner mentions five different kinds of bullshit jobs. Flunki… | |
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@brainwagon @mattblaze yes, but none of those 5 roles cover "people who ar… | |
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@fabio @Lazarou @wvlith I think Philips today just sub contracts a lot of its (… | |
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@fabio It began with grifters like Steve Jobs. That's where your modern SiV… | |
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@TomSwirly @elilla @fabio I worked for Eric Schmidt’s division at Sun Microsy… | |
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@holdenweb @elilla @fabio I'd love to believe that. I feel they were doomed… | |
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@TomSwirly @elilla @fabio maybe, but that came rather later. The real money was… | |
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@holdenweb @elilla @fabio Gah, I did indeed! Even at the time it seemed daft. | |
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@fabio Innovations and creativity require freedom and autonomy to go in any dir… | |
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@yuhasz01 @fabio I recall a quite kinda' like …"Great scientific dis… | |
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@fabioI think I could be like this if I had concentration to work on one proble… | |
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@DssExactly. People don't leave even though they probably would earn somewh… | |
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@fabio hire all the strange mood dwarves | |
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@SorceryForEva @fabio @stevel @Lazarou I think that Google had a great idea wit… | |
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@JeffGrigg @SorceryForEva @fabio @Lazarou HP labs did have a 10% time, with Fri… | |
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@stevel @JeffGrigg @fabio @Lazarou I like the idea of having time to explore ..… | |
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@hyc @nemesis @fabio I think you may be strawmanning what is actually an import… | |
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@marshray @nemesis @fabio care to elaborate? | |
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@hyc @marshray @nemesis @fabio You can't discover new elements, because we … | |
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@fabio this 🤯That’s the exact feeling I have nowadays… However as a « … | |
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@nini @fabio If I were free to pursue my passions, and could find like-minded i… | |
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@fabio Also I want to mention the Tensor Network research:https://x.company/col… | |
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@fabio I remember someone remarking in the space race that the Americans worked… | |
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@mattblaze @brainwagon @fabio +Microsoft Research One thing to remember about t… | |
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@eatyourgreens @fabio That wasn't their intention.They were trying to fix s… | |
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@JeffGrigg @fabio Wilson was a radio astronomer. They both knew, quite early on… | |
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@JeffGrigg @fabio kind of funny, though, that they did clean all the pigeon shi… | |
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@eatyourgreens @fabio Well, they did have to consider the possibility that &quo… | |
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@fabio I skimmed about half the comments I could see here and didn't find i… | |
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@schrotie both Alpha Fold and attention - based transformers came out of Google… | |
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@fabio why are you posting these walls of text without threading them? | |
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@fabio what a nice read. I absolutely agree. Except for the past where your &qu… | |
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@fabio if I remember correctly, bell labs got like it did to compete with RCA w… | |
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<- toot: @fabio boost: @isotoppToot. A diskuse pod ním. A odkazovaný člá… | |
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@fabio “But the author doesn’t go one step further and identify the root ca… | |
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@fabio """In theory also my employer does R&D today - but we… | |
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@quixote @fabio Yea; some of my best work occured when the top-down management … | |
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@JeffGrigg @fabio 😂 👍 | |
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@codinghorror @fabio @shom If they knew, in advance, that you were going to sen… | |
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@JeffGrigg @codinghorror @fabio @shom Which version though? The one we all know… | |
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@brad @fabio @stevel @Lazarou With a guaranteed #UBI (Universal Basic Income), … | |
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@JeffGrigg @brad @fabio @Lazarou one comment I've heard from people in the … | |
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@petrichor @krono @mattblaze @fabio Yes. In particular, the departmental admini… | |
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@petrichor @krono @mattblaze @fabio In addition, the Bell Labs Library was incr… | |
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@petrichor @krono @mattblaze @fabio 3) Library sent Tables of Contents of journ… | |
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@petrichor @krono @mattblaze @fabio Managers might have been following students… | |
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@fabio @shom @codinghorror but it makes sense that when it concerns the externa… | |
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@glasspusher @fabio Same here. Bell was not only a secular temple but tangible… | |
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@vfrmedia @Lazarou @fabio Was that Martlesham Heath? | |
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@geoglyphentropy @Lazarou @fabio indeed - I think its still active but compared… | |
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@fabio I think a couple of other people have also mentioned this, but all these… | |
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@Dss @hyc @marshray @fabio > You can't discover new elements, because we… | |
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@nemesis @marshray @fabio @hyc And yet, go to any Hacklab type place, and you&#… | |
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@fabio This hits so hard.Maybe we should rebrand the entire tech industry, beca… | |
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@hackersquirrel @fabio That's a really good point. | |
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@fabio That hits it on the spot! 👏 | |
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@fabio Thanks for this insights and thoughts. They reinforce my belief - its of… | |
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@fabio omg yes | |
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@TidalFlats @fabio (sighs and starts sobbing softly) | |
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@glasspusher @fabio *Joins the club* | |
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@nini @fabio And that is why the government-industrial complex fights UBI with … | |
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@SorceryForEva @JeffGrigg @fabio @Lazarou I think you could point to IMDb as a … | |
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@fabio Super post. Unfortunately it's not just corpos. Academia has been go… | |
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@fabio In nutshell its the same issue that we have everywhere in current endsta… | |
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@fabio research freedom and money was the recipe | |
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@fabio This seems true based on what I've seen in my life. Given such a dia… | |
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AT&T also had an insane amount of money (they still do).Sure I guess some c… | |
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@fabio somewhat related, there's a story in "Peopleware" (book) a… | |
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@fabio @stevel @geoffl @Lazarou Oh, how I love the phrase "tinkering spiri… | |
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@jdlh @mattblaze @scanner @brainwagon @fabio So in the back story, Lee Felsenst… | |
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@cratermoon @fabio PARC was well-funded by a near-monopoly profitable Xerox &am… | |
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@fabio tl;dr we need patrons not managers to innovate | |
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@lispi314 @fabio @oddhack @elilla And that work will belong to Google, who like… | |
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@Dss @elilla @oddhack @fabio Oh yes, never sign a contract that has that attrib… | |
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@ColinTheMathmoYour chart is ready, and can be found here:https://www.solipsys.… | |
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@fabio Bell Labs was a failure...for AT&T.Bell Labs did not succeed in help… | |
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Today's companies are not choosing to avoid Bell Labs-style innovation by a… | |
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Google, Microsoft, Amazon, NVIDIA, etc. learned the lesson and aren't going… | |
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We can't depend on fundamental research from companies in a capitalist econ… | |
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@fabio Reading your account makes me think of the epic of Gilgamesh, where the … | |
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@fabio interesting reading. I have thought many years of Tom DeMarco’s story … | |
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@fabio This is pretty much the exact story of Oculus. The innovation didn't… | |
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@maswan @mattblaze @fabio It's not even that good now, in the usa, from wha… | |
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@fabio I was happy to hit the tail-end of the corporate largess in the mod-90s.… | |
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@quixote @MxVerda @fabio Or, to put it another way, "from someone who need… | |
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@fabio @clock “And then their rate of innovation suddenly fizzled out after t… | |
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@wiredog @clock I think that it’s only part of the story.Sure, being funded b… | |
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@fabio same reason universities are useless as well. It’s a constant drive to… | |
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@fabio that re: photovoltaic cell is disproven....It's just the first feasi… | |
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@vfrmedia @fabio @Lazarou @wvlith Much stronger than that. Philips Consumer Pro… | |
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@fiee neoliberalism, the Chicago school, Friedman, Reagan and the VC-bro cultur… | |
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@Dss @mattblaze those are not necessary b******* jobs, but they have b******* t… | |
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@brainwagon @Dss A lot of the bullshit jobs aren't *inherently* bullshit, b… | |
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@fabio @stevel @Lazarou the present situation is the result of being governed b… | |
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@fabio This is something that everyone can relate to or have an opinion.I'v… | |
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@Zamfr @vfrmedia @fabio @Lazarou @wvlith The shavers are likely very profitable… | |
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@fabio it wasn’t just bell labs. RCA did a huge amount of research as well. | |
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@mattblaze @brainwagon Having done a "desk job" before the world got … | |
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@fabio While this is all certainly true, I think the plateauxing in electronics… | |
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@fabio Rich monopolists with money to burn can accomplish great things? | |
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@markvonwahlde it’s more about the system of external incentives and regulati… | |
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@fabio The astounding market domination of the phone company gave it the freedo… |