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Post #AuRk6D3gS7sm6Fs264 by [email protected] |
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I’m officially done with takes on AI beginning “Ethical concerns aside…�… |
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Post #AuS7mPFRosXN0vSlHs by [email protected] |
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@janl “center” |
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Post #AuSQgUrJwaTpo74bo0 by [email protected] |
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@janl Ethical concerns are what keeps us from jumping over the table and strang… |
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Post #AuSQgUxLaBIi6ntQCO by [email protected] |
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@petealexharris @janl wait, are we *not* strangling them now? |
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Post #AuSQgV5V5rp4W5hvuK by [email protected] |
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@CartyBoston @janl Of course not that would be unethical, what did I just say.U… |
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Post #AuSQhi0SY1M0sAvSxk by [email protected] |
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A small one of the myriad reasons I care is personal: every time you use spicy … |
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Post #AuSQi7oeaXMKv5bPAe by [email protected] |
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@janl Ethics or Morals? In this modern world there are 3 competing ethical syst… |
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Post #AuSQi7wS7Xb7JHFdKK by [email protected] |
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@jbond You’re missing the point by a bunch of miles. |
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Post #AuSQjPfXhFbcZzxG4m by [email protected] |
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@janl Ethical concerns aside, chattel slavery gives *me* so much more time to e… |
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Post #AuSQm0jKsJIs6Ny3qC by [email protected] |
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@janl That's why the billionaires had to invent hogpodge like #tescrealism … |
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Post #AuSQnU4PH9EFO5Wfom by [email protected] |
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@janl THIS! |
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Post #AuSQpRDopteb8JrOmu by [email protected] |
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@janl Its a classic sign of a Business Idiot...https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-… |
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Post #AuSQswW4wMCJ3n4XsO by [email protected] |
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@janl An excellent point |
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@janl You're coming at this from an angle that presupposes ethics are a nec… |
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Post #AuSQuCypDLXQPX7bVo by [email protected] |
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@nini no that’s exactly my point. |
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@janl Oh, I got it, just that mine and your positions stand against theirs and … |
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@janl My feeling is that without ethics, we don't have a positive form of h… |
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Post #AuSR7r0rgTqeKqaB96 by [email protected] |
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@janl ..the same applies to eating meat by the way… |
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Post #AuSR7r6tK4fWdXOzXU by [email protected] |
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@ErikJonker or children |
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@janl @ErikJonker eating human children? I mean, ok, I'm not saying it isn&… |
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@janl Yes, I'm probably messing the pitch by unnecessarily widening the poi… |
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Post #AuSR8uwuXDtwphEx96 by [email protected] |
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@janl The corporate is explicitly saying "the end justifies the means"… |
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@petealexharris @janl |
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@janl @jbond so corporations and politicians are allowed to "put ethics as… |
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@janl putting ethics second (or in some cases never) is a big part of how we’… |
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@janlI may be too optimistic, I always interpret it as "let's assume f… |
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@janl @nini Some people will invariably remove the burden from their own action… |
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This is again making meaningful numbers and I still have no SoundCloud, so I’… |
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@janl oddly, I was confused at first because what I would expect to go after &q… |
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@janl thanks for this, it helps put a finger on the feeling behind this“I don… |
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@janl Mostly at this point it is users who are trying to say this to feel bette… |
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Post #AuSRSbNL1FwXuwzHiS by [email protected] |
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@janl When it comes to ethics, AI is worth as much as a toaster. |
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@dirk @janl idk. If you want sandwiches a toaster can be pretty valuable 😁 |
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@janl What I do when I start with "setting ethical concerns aside for the … |
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@janl : Yes... |
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@janl This is a fantastic point, and it goes so much deeper, culturally, than A… |
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@janl ethical and environmental concerns |
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@janl The argument that nobody may consider or work on any of a multitude of to… |
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...might be "ethical problems exist but for the moment I shall leave them … |
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@janl White middle class privilege of not having to deal with reality.Pure bull… |
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@janl What a surprising change of heart among white middle class liberals speak… |
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@janl the way i understood it is by simile w/ what's been described as the … |
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@janl holy shit I've been saying this for months and literally just said it… |
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@janl ethics is bad for business. Leads to transparency, knowledge, accountabil… |
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@kcheek @ErikJonker https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal |
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@janl @ErikJonker Ah, thank you! |
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@jbond You misspelled "Corporate Greed". Calling rapaciousness "… |
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@janl This is an incredibly good point, not only applies to AI. thanks. |
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@janl THIS is why I say I don’t hate #AI per se, but I DO hate AI *companies*… |
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@janl odd how ethics is always disposable and optional but economics never is. |
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@janl 💯 |
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@mitsunee @jbond I don’t think that’s what I said. |
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@janl @FantasticalEconomics 💯 |
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@janl so labor ethically especially in foreign countries where labor practices … |
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@seb321 “the world around us” ethics has nature covered. |
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@janl Do you have a specific example of what people say after brushing aside et… |
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@janl You beg the question of AI being unethical on a per se basis. Every tech… |
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@tewalds “here’s a thing I built” |
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@mattly Your thoughts about this have definitely shaped my thinking. Thank you … |
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@kagan @jbond @janl Legal ethics is also a thing. Certain things are proscribed… |
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@janl My way of explaining that is, if your argument could be used to defend th… |
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@janlI totally feel the same. And at the same time, given the current developme… |
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@janl Sadly, we are living in a post ethical world of late... |
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@janl And when I keep pointing this out I get increasingly exasperated stares a… |
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@janl To be fair soundcloud is also meddling in this AI thing, so it's a ve… |
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@jbond ah yes, business ethics. the thing that allowed ford to make the explodi… |
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@vitloksbjornFrom my understanding, it's the other way around. People start… |
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@vitloksbjornWhich doesn't answer my question, whether these tools improve … |
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@vitloksbjorn No, it is not, because we're talking about knowledge and not … |
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@vitloksbjorn Precisely the two topics we're talking about. Enrichment of s… |
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@vitloksbjorn @fxnn I can be dropped from this conversation now ✌️ |
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@dch @paulehoffman > If the Work includes a "NOTICE" text file as … |
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@janl You're not wrong, but the ethical concerns are their own quagmire and… |
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@janl i totally agree, but I also realize that the majority of the stuff on Sta… |
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@jimmylittle my main point is that we can all look at the same SO discussion an… |
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@janl I think they call that “woke” and has been weaponized as an argument … |
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@janl "It is *impossible* to put ethics aside."Unless one wants to li… |
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@Guillotine_Jones @janl I renounce my USianship. Get me outta here. |
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@janl this is exactly like “removing dei” - say what you mean, you want spe… |
