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Post #AuLajpQnYJLXumAwyW by [email protected] |
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No joking for this #FailureFriday - an interim report on the foundering of the … |
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Post #AuLajpYF6dIkHretZw by [email protected] |
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So for those that don't remember, Bayesian was an utterly ridiculous vessel… |
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Post #AuLajpeciuPCbedzWa by [email protected] |
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On 19th August 2024 Bayesian had anchored off Porticello, in Sicily, ahead of a… |
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Post #AuLajpliIY4oxdxeZk by [email protected] |
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In the immediate aftermath fingers were quickly pointed at the crew, not least … |
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Post #AuLajprjw8thGKmSy8 by [email protected] |
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Anyway, onto the interim report. As the MAIB themselves highlight, this is most… |
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Post #AuLajpy7YQ09a7lYum by [email protected] |
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The wind increased STUPIDLY quickly. From a light breeze to thirty knots in a h… |
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Post #AuLajq5D83flw75Dxw by [email protected] |
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So what the hell happened? The report isn't conclusive - this is a prelimin… |
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Post #AuLajqBakKmEFu4Jua by [email protected] |
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The first eyepopping statistic is the angle of vanishing stability. This is the… |
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Post #AuLajqIKLIAGanDhPU by [email protected] |
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It gets worse. Those angles - none better than 92 degrees - are with the keel … |
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Post #AuLajqOhxZGiuaCnM8 by [email protected] |
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You'd think it was pretty important, wouldn't you? Knowing when the ves… |
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Post #AuLajqVRYWelFTMAr2 by [email protected] |
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The MAIB certainly thought it would be useful to know, so they got somebody to … |
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Post #AuLajqct6qbxcYq7SS by [email protected] |
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The MAIB weren't happy with simply knowing the angle at which things went i… |
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Post #AuLajqjGj7iPwLpDP6 by [email protected] |
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None of these numbers were available or obvious to the crew. They didn't ha… |
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Post #AuLajqq0K56SHEyau0 by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips I’m no sailor, but it sounds like the Bayesian was basically over… |
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Post #AuLajqvfyzdkYpd7k8 by [email protected] |
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@slothrop I don't think that's a fair characterisation. It was built an… |
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Post #AuLajr3TVzsWx1HLto by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips @slothrop Nice write up. I think it highly likely the owner demande… |
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Post #AuLajrAD6xGZHuQjOi by [email protected] |
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@Microplastics101 @slothrop the owner's dead, and wasn't responsible fo… |
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Post #AuLajrO2HYKDymtlwm by [email protected] |
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There's one oddity to clear up- Bayesian was at anchor, so why didn't i… |
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Post #AuLajs39ofDc2K8c2i by [email protected] |
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Right now I'll be furious if either the criminal investigation or the MAIB … |
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Post #AuLajshZOPXq3f2t28 by [email protected] |
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PS - as it's come up, it's noticeable that apart from a couple of comme… |
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Post #AuLak1x8zsLmkZOx3g by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips @slothrop A safe place for a sailboat with those heeling numbers is… |
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Post #AuLam9kcyUlpVyYosK by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips can some flip the right way up if completely inverted? |
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Post #AuLam9s4Woj1t42lTk by [email protected] |
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@benjohn okay, so here's some genuine GZ curves for half a dozen yachts. Th… |
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Post #AuLam9y6APXuBkrZs8 by [email protected] |
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@benjohn and more generally, yes, it's entirely possible but the boat would… |
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Post #AuLamA4plMvwWe0xN2 by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips I was remembering watching true spirit (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt… |
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Post #AuLamABZMKJyrXAKrw by [email protected] |
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@benjohn basically yeah, it's more comfortable for crew and easier on the h… |
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Post #AuLamYRhA1Ts6UtYKu by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips so, the red, yellow and grey boats are all fairly likely to self ri… |
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Post #AuLamYXMow1AO5Y5B2 by [email protected] |
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@benjohn yeah, they're really not all that pinned upside down. It's har… |
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Post #AuLamlwIzWgrxCJgLw by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips perhaps this snippet in the report? " The profile of the mast … |
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Post #AuLamm2gbnnKGzImIa by [email protected] |
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@Elwell during the final minutes it was noted at sixty degrees off the port bow… |
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Post #AuLanCPGaTJ02Y4B6W by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips I thought it was bad luck to change the name of a ship, as the owne… |
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Post #AuLanCVIE47sLEszUu by [email protected] |
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@dadakopf generally not a superstition sailors themselves hold, in my experience |
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Post #AuLanWo6jp3lJNqIbI by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips Thanks for the explanations about sailboat operations and such. I j… |
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Post #AuLanWvYI90xgTKFCi by [email protected] |
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@isaackuo well, yeah, and I'd normally agree with you, but it was bought an… |
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Post #AuLanX2zqSyA3YoBo8 by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips @isaackuo You read reports of the age of sail where the boat is fl… |
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Post #AuLanX9jRQMCORxZJ2 by [email protected] |
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@huitema @isaackuo it shouldn't be suicide - we've got much better acce… |
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Post #AuLanhVMxpbgUS9zQ8 by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips @isaackuo Mariners have been surprised by stability issues for a l… |
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Post #AuLaoDNgRwTNLsoIsq by [email protected] |
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Thanks for the excellent summary. It's good to hear that the crew were 100%… |
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Post #AuLaoDV80GQZiyIFUG by [email protected] |
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@BobLefridge @DreadShips Putting the swing keel down while anchored increases t… |
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Post #AuLaoDf3PMMqDkwAxU by [email protected] |
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@DavidPenington @BobLefridge @DreadShips > Putting the swing keel down while… |
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Post #AuLaoDmUxgK2aqQ7Yu by [email protected] |
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@worik @BobLefridge @DreadShips I forgot it was the Mediterranean, with its min… |
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Post #AuLaoDsWbH8utXEvxI by [email protected] |
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@DavidPenington @worik @BobLefridge I wouldn't overthink it. The keel came … |
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Post #AuLapGlLMX1K85NcHo by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips @DavidPenington @BobLefridge > there's also enough to keep i… |
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Post #AuLapVMj4LF1Q4yfUu by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips I'm trying to understand why a yacht already known to be at ris… |
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Post #AuLapVUAcfCDnASc6K by [email protected] |
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@gcvsa I suspect because the SOPs say to leave it up. It adds drag when motorin… |
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Post #AuLapY7ap3v1y0v7pI by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips I should say, I lived through the June 2012 superderecho storm on t… |
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@DreadShips Forgive my ignorance, but would having the centerboard down have he… |
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Post #AuLaphTY2npQyiGHnU by [email protected] |
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@aprilfollies the interim report doesn't speculate on it. From the raw numb… |
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@DreadShips Thanks for the well-informed answer, with all due caveats! I absol… |
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Post #AuLaphgJHM2LcIETgm by [email protected] |
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@aprilfollies I think everybody has been a bit shocked by the raw numbers, to b… |
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Post #AuLaqCcUFcOlZPgMXA by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips No detail too small:"The chef was in the galley stowing cutler… |
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Post #AuLaqCjDqZmnuIpk24 by [email protected] |
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@MisterMoo Irony and sarcasm in the face of disaster is a fine nautical traditi… |
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Post #AuLaqXhVs7tex5CAme by [email protected] |
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@DreadShipsI'm used to reading MAIB reports where heavily-modified fishing … |
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Post #AuLaqXntUP07GsBGjI by [email protected] |
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@sheddi right now I don't see anything to suggest the crew were negligent o… |
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Post #AuLaqXtv7zozZZ057g by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips @sheddi The poor sea-worthiness of this boat reminded me of the SS … |
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Post #AuLaqY10hdUbvYJkAq by [email protected] |
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@DenOfEarth @sheddi the comparison that struck me is HMS Captain. Similar issue… |
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Post #AuLaqvZB8lUSyBTr7o by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips @DenOfEarth @sheddi Captain sprang to my mind fairly quickly as wel… |
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Post #AuLar3ZpMElLoVqUFM by [email protected] |
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@arcadiagt5 @DreadShips @DenOfEarth @sheddi it's on the bottom near here. B… |
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Post #AuLarFOZPut8T4ffMm by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips "The study indicated that if the wind was blowing directly ont… |
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Post #AuLarFUF4pQQkfKCCu by [email protected] |
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@Elwell yeah, that really made me sit up and take notice. I'm genuinely uns… |
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Post #AuLarZSqniCCi8pMoa by [email protected] |
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@DreadShips Possibly worth bearing in mind as a side note: this is not a case o… |
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@RogerBW to add even more to that it was bought from a previous owner, and my s… |
