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@gregdosh @jenniferplusplus Found out through Mastodon and that someone was pit… |
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A lot of people talking about "hallucinations", and how often LLMs ar… |
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@jenniferplusplus If only an LLM could take LSD, then it would learn something.… |
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And marketing bullshit like "RAG" or "reasoning" or whateve… |
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@jenniferplusplus "Hallucinate" is a well-established term among AI r… |
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@jenniferplusplus "spicy auto-complete" |
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@ApostateEnglishman Nope, I have to just flatly challenge that. You can't s… |
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@jenniferplusplus 75% of AI researchers say that LLMs are a dead end. There was… |
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@ApostateEnglishman Maybe the people who claim LLMs are sentient are a minority… |
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@jenniferplusplus I hope we're not arguing here, because I did actually agr… |
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@ApostateEnglishman I guess we're not arguing, then. But that would mean th… |
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@jenniferplusplus It probably wasn't worth me commenting, it was too...um, … |
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In other words, a stopped clock is always wrong.It doesn't matter that it w… |
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Post #AuJTmqQdDGPNshfWyG by [email protected] |
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@jenniferplusplus Difference between a stopped wind up clock and LLMs is that p… |
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@jenniferplusplus spot on. |
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@jenniferplusplus I'm only suggesting you use the wordhttps://en.m.wikipedi… |
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@jenniferplusplus Point well made. The "photo of a clock" really clic… |
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@jenniferplusplus "They are a stopped clock, and they are always wrong.&qu… |
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@aeischeid but as you say, being right is not its function. So you can't re… |
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@jenniferplusplus @aeischeid Most people don’t understand what LLMs do. It’… |
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@jenniferplusplus I certainly don't mean to be in the position of defending… |
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@aeischeid @jenniferplusplus There’s a massive difference though, traditional… |
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@alexanderdyas @jenniferplusplus Agree! The marketing, hype, the language used … |
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@aeischeid @alexanderdyas If you have a framework for identifying wrong-but-use… |
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@jenniferplusplus @alexanderdyas I wish such a framework did exist, I don't… |
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@jenniferplusplus @alexanderdyas From a lingustics angle "they never know … |
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@aeischeid @alexanderdyas Right. As far as I can tell, no one has that good fra… |
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@jenniferplusplus @alexanderdyas A worthy goal, and some good steps towards it!… |
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@jenniferplusplus @alexanderdyas Not at all a complete framework for evaluating… |
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@aeischeid I actually kind of hate this. A big list of suggestions to use AI fo… |
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@jenniferplusplus Which is to say, yeah, LLMs probably fairly useless if you ar… |
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@jenniferplusplus I agree with most of what you wrote, but would maintain that … |
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@jenniferplusplus PS: you may enjoy this clock. https://beige.party/@Suzdal92/1… |
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@jenniferplusplus what does having experience have to do with being right or wr… |
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@Scmbradley encyclopedia britannica isn't right or wrong in the sense that … |
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@jenniferplusplus ok so I see the sense in which you're using "being r… |
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@jenniferplusplus "mad-lib" is very goodI'll be borrowing it |
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@jenniferplusplus As I like to say it: ALL their responses are hallucinations o… |
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@jenniferplusplus They're a broken clock that stopped at twenteen fiftytwel… |
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@autolycos bullshit is marginally better, but it still implies mental facilitie… |
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@jenniferplusplus @autolycos I quite like it, in one sense, but that is because… |
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@Scmbradley No, it's not about agency. It's not even really about being… |
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@jenniferplusplus ah yeah! Total agreement here.Ok. So it's been something … |
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@Scmbradley @jenniferplusplus Yeah. The way I'd put it is a sequence of wor… |
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@jenniferplusplus I will not argue with that, but I can't go to my peers an… |
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@jenniferplusplus I think this is the relevant part that makes me still say AI … |
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@jenniferplusplus the only novelty of it is they have beheaded the garbage in p… |
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@jenniferplusplus and I think there is a healthy space to debate if mental facu… |
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@jenniferplusplus Fair, I don't love the post on the whole, hesitated to sh… |
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@aeischeid @jenniferplusplus Same here. The description of these as a 'phot… |
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@jenniferplusplus @aeischeid 🍬 For watches and clocks, it makes no sense at … |
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@aeischeid @jenniferplusplus They're never right for the right reason.This … |
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@jenniferplusplus @autolycos true, regardless their probabilistic nature and th… |
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@jenniferplusplus Needed saying. Always wrong.🕰️ 🕰️ 🕰️ |
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I am heavily reminded of https://anathem.fandom.com/wiki/Bulshytt again, as a t… |
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@aeischeid @jenniferplusplus It means looking at a photo of a clock in a room a… |
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@jenniferplusplus jennifer i just angrily blogged about this so this is validat… |
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@beep @jenniferplusplus okay but what if the mad lib filled in [pronoun] [to be… |
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@beep that was a good and correct blog. We're right and we should say it |
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@jenniferplusplus If you need a distraction, you will be amused by Lewis Carrol… |
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@SylviaFysica @jenniferplusplus the stopped clock is just one way a clock can b… |
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@stevewfolds @jenniferplusplus Excellent. |
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@aeischeid Even that, in the context of learning, is something I have to be hig… |
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@weekend_editor @jenniferplusplus The only hallucinations are in the minds of p… |
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@jenniferplusplus Based on my reading of https://doi.org/10.1093/schbul/sbad068… |
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@Scmbradley My favourite variant is that the hands could be turning backwards a… |
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@jenniferplusplus these models have come a long way and are still significantly… |
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@jenniferplusplus Yep. And what is incredibly insidious is the use of I stateme… |
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@jenniferplusplus And what LLMs are actually getting better at is looking like … |
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@jenniferplusplus AI companies: we changed the time base on our clock to base 8… |
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@jedbrown @aeischeid @jenniferplusplus I did not know about V&V as a formal… |
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@jenniferplusplus no computer programme we‘ve built to date has those things,… |
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@UlrikeHahn every other computer program we've built to date is retreiving … |
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@jenniferplusplus I would argue that any ML system that learns is equally one o… |
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@UlrikeHahn @jenniferplusplus But most programs to date are deterministic. When… |
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@jakob @jenniferplusplus Jakob, I think the claim that they do not have „deix… |
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@UlrikeHahn @jenniferplusplus @dcm I think we discussed this in the past and ma… |
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@jakob @jenniferplusplus @dcm we probably have ;-), but the claim that they can… |
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@UlrikeHahn @jakob @jenniferplusplus I think there may be a degree of talking p… |
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@dcm @jakob @jenniferplusplus yes, I'd also question that 'understandin… |
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@UlrikeHahn @jakob @jenniferplusplus that's the line followed by other exte… |
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@jenniferplusplus or by your argument, a programme that does anything with Engl… |
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@dcm @UlrikeHahn @jakob So, when LLMs produce responses like this, that's s… |
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@jenniferplusplus @dcm @jakob I guess one way of thinking about that question i… |
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@UlrikeHahn @dcm @jakob That's a jumble of at lest 3 different sci-fi setti… |
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@jenniferplusplus @dcm @jakob I‘ll take your word for it (not a SciFi fan mys… |
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@UlrikeHahn No, it's semantic nonsense.It's roughly equivalent to askin… |
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@UlrikeHahn @jakob @jenniferplusplus As @UlrikeHahn mentioned, there are sever… |
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@jenniferplusplus ok, maybe we are not going to get on the same page here. The … |
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@jenniferplusplus and if we take the proposition „Grendel told Arthur Pendrag… |
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@UlrikeHahn I think it's fair to say that the prompt was uninterpretable. B… |
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@jenniferplusplus @dcm @jakob I would also take issue with „no understanding … |
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@jenniferplusplus I completely agree that LLMs have massive limitations, and we… |
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@jenniferplusplus if these "accidents" fit your purpose, like with im… |
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@ErikJonker Image generation has different problems, which I am not discussing … |
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@jenniferplusplus It's just a word... everyone know they don't "ha… |
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@ProgressiveLurker I assure you, quite a lot fewer people than *everyone* knows… |
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@jenniferplusplus Ok but those are beyond help 😆 |
