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Post #Au8G1a2gsmDZJ72mbA by [email protected] |
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i enjoy this flowchart explaining how bash decides whether to use .bashrc or .b… |
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Post #Au8G1aztKfZaGik3sG by [email protected] |
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also even though this diagram is so complicated it doesn’t talk about how the… |
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Post #Au9RgwFaVml4i8xaNs by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Yeah, this is correct (at least on the macOS side) |
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Post #Au9RhiDSB1ZVTQKYim by [email protected] |
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@b0rk The example I usually use is starting something like ssh-agent. You only … |
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Post #Au9RiJ70zvPFuAbRK4 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk nice concept, but useless if (like me) you're colourblind 😂 |
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Post #Au9RiSg5Qto9ZY54jo by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Ohhh now it makes sense 🤔 |
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Post #Au9RjIvp9dIHdPqNUG by [email protected] |
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@b0rk This picture makes me feel a lot better about not understanding the diffe… |
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Post #Au9RjLcRAAZJy9nRBY by [email protected] |
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@b0rk To be fair, that's a less-than-optimal way to present the info (and I… |
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Post #Au9RjLiomRfmHwmX8C by [email protected] |
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@gomijacogeo my sense is that the login shell bits can actually matter if you e… |
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Post #Au9RjeCu3KQvcSzoWW by [email protected] |
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@b0rk All of which makes it a heck of a lot of fun if you're in the habit o… |
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Post #Au9RjnIuENaBpgsEd6 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk it very much depends on the desktop. usually wayland desktops don't d… |
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Post #Au9RjnPHqege9TrKZk by [email protected] |
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@pounce good to know! I find it so hard to keep up with the Wayland changes |
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Post #Au9RjnVfSvn6TGqQWO by [email protected] |
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@b0rk it's essentially been an issue since wayland started, since now a com… |
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Post #Au9RjoQO43A3JBNivg by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Great! |
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Post #Au9Rk8NDtWVvBA3Tm4 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk "design-by-committee results in overcomplicated designs"design … |
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Post #Au9Rk8VjNtJrbY2H2G by [email protected] |
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@eloy @b0rk Design by highly opinionated hacker who is _certain_ and will expla… |
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Post #Au9Rk8eEsG7o1w14IS by [email protected] |
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@Sdowney @eloy @b0rk this is "design by an independent set of open source … |
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Post #Au9Rk8mONweARDpa0O by [email protected] |
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@stevel @Sdowney @b0rk yep |
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Post #Au9Rk9Bur33ziNlxmy by [email protected] |
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@stevel @Sdowney @b0rk so the solution is: a committee to decide what stuff to … |
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Post #Au9RknNJS5wmLJPd6e by [email protected] |
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@b0rk #FFS! It's really *THAT* complicated? Wow. |
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Post #Au9RmYECjsQXwczOXg by [email protected] |
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@b0rk I love the contrast to zsh 😄 |
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Post #Au9Rn1ISf8406EChhg by [email protected] |
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@b0rk 😳 I feel validated about sourcing my bashrc into my bash_profile now |
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Post #Au9RnBFdeTkOyMxagy by [email protected] |
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@b0rk jeees... I thought it was just 3 different fallbacks, that's insane. |
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Post #Au9RnDTBP5lnqxJR56 by [email protected] |
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@sdarlington yeah there’s a whole thing about how this relates to being a Lin… |
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Post #Au9Ro08ITXB6mMuwpU by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Ugh this is terrible. Why didn't they just set a couple of environmen… |
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Post #Au9RoCiBhv19n9nmRE by [email protected] |
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@b0rk what is the meaning of the different arrow colors? |
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Post #Au9RoCpHHYgm997RUO by [email protected] |
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@jptagaio my understanding in this section is red: login, interactiveyellow: lo… |
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Post #Au9RoCvetpnESw6XR2 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @jptagaio what does login vs non-login shell mean here? I feel like I mig… |
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Post #Au9RoD1gXQc6lcvLpQ by [email protected] |
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@iris @jptagaio so my understanding of it is that in some situations (like the … |
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Post #Au9RpB2TPctYtRkpO4 by [email protected] |
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@eloy @b0rk as a "design by history" entrant: less bad than many tbh |
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Post #Au9RpKg9ZSz0n7O8zA by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @jptagaio I find this chart difficult to follow. The “states” are som… |
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Post #Au9RpxlqEFhq23LjlY by [email protected] |
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@b0rk "login" vs "non-login" took me so long to understand … |
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Post #Au9RpzOsAcWP5OcQF6 by [email protected] |
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@b0rkMac switched its default to zsh a long time agoI don't think its windo… |
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Post #Au9RqECJ9cNqylr6Ey by [email protected] |
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@sdarlington @b0rk The example I always use is cron jobs, which may not be a to… |
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Post #Au9RqT3zsneH5L5Arw by [email protected] |
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@b0rk I used to think the same: that the login shell is the outermost one, so y… |
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Post #Au9RqTA1WOT9O1tzGK by [email protected] |
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@simontatham no this is exactly the kind of thing I hoping to hear I love iti f… |
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Post #Au9Rs207TJBNjP0wnA by [email protected] |
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@b0rk You seem to have forgotten the influence of the current phase of the moon… |
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Post #Au9RsIU8BUhCr7B8nA by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Question: Since systemd allows you to specify environment variables withi… |
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Post #Au9Rt0wKtzOwjKiHrc by [email protected] |
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@b0rk this makes my brain hurt. I just want coloured terminal output :( |
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Post #Au9Rv8i2zCP5PF2juy by [email protected] |
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@b0rk macOS is very stupid about which shell start script path it applies certa… |
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Post #Au9Rv8oQbTVXj21prc by [email protected] |
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@jlargentaye I’m not against rants necessarily but I have literally no idea w… |
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Post #Au9RvHlZJTZHUllB9k by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @jptagaio ooohh that makes complete sense, thank you |
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Post #Au9RvPUqZWwhTDzwCe by [email protected] |
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@WiteWulf @b0rk I'm not sure it makes much more sense with regular color vi… |
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Post #Au9RwrJybdj83ZbWkq by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Good point. I was going to mention the first one, but felt I was getting … |
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Post #Au9RxSuQr3sAdLwfDM by [email protected] |
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@b0rk BASH LOGOUT EXISTS?! |
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Post #Au9RxT2EO46x1XatN2 by [email protected] |
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@k @b0rk That's where you put `rm -rf /` |
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Post #Au9Ryy3WXPP7WTujnU by [email protected] |
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@b0rk the login process overall was never standardized and it’s a Wild West o… |
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Post #Au9RzZaR00iLvGb2jQ by [email protected] |
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@b0rk that explains a lot :-) But it won't help me, I'm afraid |
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Post #Au9RznVHFyuL5KI7dY by [email protected] |
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@eloy @Sdowney @b0rk and so create a fork in the codebase... |
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Post #Au9Rzqtqd5LPcOoHqq by [email protected] |
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@b0rk I wonder—which of these occur because of built-in behaviour of bash/sh/… |
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Post #Au9S0H9h0nT334QJ9s by [email protected] |
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@b0rk I’m going to keep this for the next time someone on slack tries to tell… |
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Post #Au9S0IqGjz7QHPLpA0 by [email protected] |
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@stevel @Sdowney @b0rk for specific people who depend on legacy features, yes. … |
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Post #Au9S0QfvcJbIZeZg9Y by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Good thing I use zsh. |
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Post #Au9S0iWJGobNv2DFey by [email protected] |
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@b0rk bash makes csh sound like a good idea, and yes I know what I just said. |
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Post #Au9S0qBKmgZpgISc4m by [email protected] |
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@b0rk 🤯 |
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Post #Au9S1IT1cVMhPGx8XQ by [email protected] |
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@b0rk omg |
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Post #Au9S3Che1RAm6mhThw by [email protected] |
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@b0rk "2 config files"Well, there's your problem right there. :sa… |
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Post #Au9SWs3XLqO0lE5QeG by [email protected] |
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@b0rk totally! My typical .bash_profile just says 'source ~/.bashrc' an… |
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Post #Au9SWs9uy7UT514Wau by [email protected] |
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@b0rk … I suppose if you did want to do some environment-variable setup as fe… |
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Post #Au9SWsFad21lMbj3R2 by [email protected] |
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@simontatham it feels like the interface I actually _want_ for that is some PAT… |
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Post #Au9SX3ZUXNU0TW7bU0 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk I agree with that too – I *do* have an 'addpath' shell function… |
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Post #Au9SX89nUKtuhH8ecy by [email protected] |
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@b0rkIf you use zsh, you can do typeset -U PATH and it'll toss any duplicat… |
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Post #Au9SXDVbagJfIMNdoW by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Also, variables set in the login shell are inherited by the whole session… |
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Post #Au9SXDcLBdhhdFX1JQ by [email protected] |
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@whynothugo that's what I thought too but someone told me that Wayland does… |
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Post #Au9SXd7kM0gEjtPxEe by [email protected] |
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@b0rk How can it be no-login and interactive? |
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Post #Au9SXdFBuKdR6yttq4 by [email protected] |
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@leean00 @b0rk Recursion-- that's where you get when you invoke an inner sh… |
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Post #Au9SXdLDXvSJPfiiES by [email protected] |
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@Nentuaby @b0rk I never thought of it as recursion, but yeah that sounds accur… |
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Post #Au9SXdQtCpzbhGNF4a by [email protected] |
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@leean00 if you start tmux with a shell running in it, that shell is interactiv… |
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Post #Au9SXxGHTzOHC9Z3JY by [email protected] |
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@Nentuaby @leean00 also I believe it’s common for terminal emulators on Linux… |
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Post #Au9YWN1pJJp8FtQnGS by [email protected] |
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@b0rk My brain glazed over |
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Post #Au9YY5z1egA1yBwZFo by [email protected] |
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@b0rk already the zsh is convoluted, but makes sense.The bashrc is pure batshit… |
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Post #Au9YbvKrBZRe6Wyqga by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Some of this is Debian-isms (and thus Ubuntu-isms).Bash dropped the "… |
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Post #Au9Yerys79auZL6NKC by [email protected] |
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@b0rk yeah, on GUIs (OS X and X11) there is this extra layer of "when i op… |
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Post #Au9YkKBefieZUrgMAy by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Thank you for deciphering this dark dot magic. Love the color coded edges. |
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Post #Au9YkjW4Uwq63QQVyC by [email protected] |
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@b0rk I’m dying wow that’s so complicated |
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Post #Au9aZh0LhD7OzHS4vI by [email protected] |
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@b0rk See? Nice and simple. |
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Post #Au9k2TTdy8uX1AxAOW by [email protected] |
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@zspotter @b0rk just to be sure, you should do it both ways! |
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