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Post #Au2cDE55ONzsiIMZEW by [email protected] |
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as the person who pushed for the alpine core team (now TSC) to adopt a policy o… |
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Post #Au2cDT8pOku3QFEGeG by [email protected] |
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my philosophy here effectively boils down to a simple position: your computer s… |
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Post #Au2cDcZOLMV0fEj6no by [email protected] |
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to be clear: this policy only applies to software that has default-on telemetry… |
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Post #Au2cDiYY5POFEMNWK0 by [email protected] |
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my point here is that distributions sometimes do curation that upstream does no… |
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Post #Au2cDmXdGl29afyqRs by [email protected] |
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but why should a distribution care about telemetry?distributions are advocates … |
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Post #Au2lPvotUtbBQgvGWe by [email protected] |
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@ariadne my inability to tell whether any text I enter into text box or command… |
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Post #Au2lPvvH7AhdkTuMTI by [email protected] |
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@kevinriggle well in alpine at least, that would be a release-critical bug in w… |
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Post #Au2lX3hka2VruWynku by [email protected] |
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@ariadne The whole stance is correct from my point of view, but I am not aware … |
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Post #Au2lX3oq9gBUGWISo4 by [email protected] |
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@bmaxv alpine has had an anti-telemetry policy since 2015 🙃 |
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Post #Au2lZ9ZPk95YgK4yoK by [email protected] |
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@ariadne but what if it wants to be? |
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Post #Au2lZ9fnMQC10744ky by [email protected] |
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@thegarbagebird then you should return it to the store and buy a computer that … |
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Post #Au2lZ9mAyhITJu3Ahc by [email protected] |
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@ariadne well, it seems i have mistaken my computer for an actual rat, they did… |
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Post #Au2lZ9tGYKy5ftMpkm by [email protected] |
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@ariadne also i love the word ’‘misfeature.’ gottem good. |
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Post #Au2lbAaSvvCcPmX5Iu by [email protected] |
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@ariadne Do you know what if any policy Debian has on this sort of thing?I'… |
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Post #Au2lbAgqYCJ4jZWBFY by [email protected] |
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@ariadne But I'm curious if they patched some of that out in the idstro bui… |
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Post #Au2leMt5enkTQslkp6 by [email protected] |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] honestly this, i do… |
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Post #Au2lqw4Mg4dS1R2G36 by [email protected] |
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@ariadne nodds in agreementA computer should be a tool like a frying pan, hamme… |
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Post #Au2lqwCAD4sEPcgUCm by [email protected] |
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@kkarhan idk man i liked my RAV4 hybrid, which was an SUV and got like 45mpg. … |
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Post #Au2lqwIBqfh6iJVIbA by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I also guess you actually use it at capacity and/or suffer from the ca… |
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Post #Au2ly5gHLBBZrJBI9I by [email protected] |
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@ariadne glad to be on the same page 💜 |
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Post #Au2m1v3WmnbW42shn6 by [email protected] |
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@ariadne My immediate reaction to this, I'm afraid, was to think of the sma… |
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Post #Au2mGHkBEIXoU3gKps by [email protected] |
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@iris_meredith @ariadne as some one that has fantasized about mycelium processo… |
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Post #Au2mLxThUSVxMsg91E by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I am definitely grateful that @debian cleans up firefox and I much pre… |
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Post #Au2mS9kelqFBAfZ6lE by [email protected] |
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in the world we have built, data can be easily weaponized. that is enough reas… |
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Post #Au2mSB0e5scz4Y3OK0 by [email protected] |
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and that’s just off the top of my head. if you were to tell me about other w… |
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Post #Au2mU7ilI7DbS7cJkG by [email protected] |
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@iris_meredith @ariadne "My computer has a mouse attached to it by its tai… |
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Post #Au2mavH1y5mUsJt86q by [email protected] |
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@kkarhan i mostly use my car to go places not serviced by transit (such as to g… |
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Post #Au2mavO7XjS7EJCnA0 by [email protected] |
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@ariadne that's what I meant: Noone expects you to haul 2 weeks woth of gro… |
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Post #Au2xF3oUdVFWUAJlUu by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I think this should be drummer up more: Distributions are agents of th… |
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Post #Au2xF4L6gFKy7JZoKe by [email protected] |
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@ariadne But making modifications to applications harder is just removing privi… |
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Post #Au3CLFCqgnrmrz7ILg by [email protected] |
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@ljrk @ariadne Not to mention this also kills the newbie → power user → con… |
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Post #Au3CLFIsKOgfAfw6k4 by [email protected] |
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@soc @ariadne Absolutely! It's the FOSS version of "We don't need … |
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Post #Au3CTxPcDUwAHxF7Dc by [email protected] |
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@ariadne when I think about the word telemetry I expected some basic metrics li… |
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Post #Au3CZhAhVmXHen0EOe by [email protected] |
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@ariadne Firefox doesn't normally (the exception being with the crash repor… |
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Post #Au5FEHh1jY5OjYWbtQ by [email protected] |
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@ljrk @ariadneFirst: dont-theme-my-app was targeted at distros breaking shit by… |
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Post #Au5FEHpBFEbl8qL7bM by [email protected] |
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@AdrianVovk @ljrk as someone who had to deal with distros shipping broken gtk+ … |
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Post #Au5FZlkz9Uhg3YcZzU by [email protected] |
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@tnhd firefox may not today, but there is no guarantee about tomorrow. not to … |
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Post #Au5FjnnIQs8LGqUCwq by [email protected] |
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@AdrianVovk @ariadne Oh I totally understand the intention -- I'm just talk… |
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Post #Au5FmOiw6FJENwgV0K by [email protected] |
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@tnhd @ariadne when distros compile software, they can choose to disable or ena… |
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Post #Au5TRNozerSarcOKZs by [email protected] |
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@ariadne Data can be weaponized is a synonym for “you can be hacked to bits�… |
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Post #Au93C1pbJYcI8uX6Wm by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I really struggle to understand the motivation for things like Flatpac… |
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Post #Au93C1xOqYr4X6BKgS by [email protected] |
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@david_chisnall @ariadne Making proprietary (and open source) applications work… |
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Post #Au93C25YMFNQwNzqOO by [email protected] |
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@ayushnix @david_chisnall @ariadne But it limits applications to CPU architectu… |
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Post #Au93CGJBUMbD2iTvaC by [email protected] |
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@david_chisnall @ariadne I'm sure a lot of the frustration comes from so-ca… |
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Post #Au93KQJiA3g2OscUee by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I had always assumed that most stuff on Flathub was packaged by third … |
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Post #Au93T0hAn6Y7Xhgk5I by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I wish that people didn't think Flathub had hundred of PAID review… |
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Post #Au93T0ocLQVJunAggi by [email protected] |
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@hub alpine has a robust and well-enforced anti-telemetry policy without such t… |
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Post #Au93T0x7pnJGLB9Twu by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I guess you failed to answer the question.... "More work" is… |
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Post #Au93T13rQkhIg4IrRo by [email protected] |
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@hub i believe i did answer the question.alpine, another project which is large… |
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@ariadne I asked if you knew what was the size of the review team for flathub. … |
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Post #Au93T1KWQo1bVk6APw by [email protected] |
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@hub what does the size of a review team have to do with telling vendors that t… |
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Post #Au93f4XoJ3VaxH3pL6 by [email protected] |
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@ariadne very naïve question: could telemetry be handled by sandboxing? in oth… |
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Post #Au93gEyZ0Xgpb68D2G by [email protected] |
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@ariadne The best we can do is require disclosure of that in OARS and expose it… |
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Post #Au93pKdTKlwBl0bKSm by [email protected] |
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@david_chisnall @ariadneIt goes like this:Engineer 1: "It works on my mach… |
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Post #Au93uv3JMgC49LLqm8 by [email protected] |
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@ariadne Why would that happen?Not being held to the standards of distribution&… |
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Post #Au93vMsdtwISSMZj28 by [email protected] |
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@ariadne very naïve question: could telemetry be handled by sandboxing? in oth… |
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Post #Au94TYasrBl4dCZTgO by [email protected] |
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@ariadne nodds in agreement In fact I wish for rigorous demands for #Reproducea… |
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Post #Au94U4HV2nGauLkRua by [email protected] |
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@ariadne I disagree. I guess (and understand) that a majority of Linux users wa… |
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Post #Au94vKmnmsTRupOJKi by [email protected] |
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@ariadne You wrote "i wish that flathub would explicitly ban telemetry and… |
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Post #AuBGZMPUejeoLchHWK by [email protected] |
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@ariadne the idea that someone in between upstream and the user can somehow ali… |
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Post #AuBGZMVsH0lGfPgNSy by [email protected] |
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@swick i think of it as a mitigation, not a cure.the cure is upstream values al… |
