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With bluesky (mostly) going down for a few hours today, I got to wondering abou… |
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One thing that's interesting to me in this data is that there is actually *… |
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Post #AtRMRwghYTHMzuR9SC by [email protected] |
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Many thanks @fedidb for the server list! |
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@ricci can we see an update of this in 6 months or a year from now, with a stat… |
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Post #AtS2FJaVIXeYKaCKBc by [email protected] |
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@ricci That is even more cocerning given the fact that Hetzner, for example, ca… |
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@ricci dang, Japan is poppin off with fedi. Good for them. |
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@ricci I can recognize a lot of these IP prefixes without looking up, and I don… |
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@ricci also tempted to move this instance to my own prefix to see if I can get … |
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@dan I assume Azure is attributed to Microsoft in ipinfo; it hosts a whoppin 7 … |
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@ricci yup, AS8075, I taught myself how to use BGP by logging into its core rou… |
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@dan calling the microsoft cops ( @dev ) |
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Post #AtSBZntlDG0RiV38eO by [email protected] |
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@ricci @dan @dev Microsoft Dev Network, assemble! |
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Post #AtSBZz8LRNCyYuxRPU by [email protected] |
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@ricci we are not surprised at all that Germany is second behind the US in term… |
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@freya It's actually kind of interesting: the ones in the US are spread acr… |
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@ricci Europe has very few cheap cloud providers, I think. At least whenever I … |
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@freya yup 👍 |
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Post #AtSBkXUGZNL40IFBNQ by [email protected] |
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@ricci We were looking at the user numbers recently for the same reason: https:… |
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Post #AtSBkXdU16iASsYXk8 by [email protected] |
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@ricci Also we grabbed a version of the AS level data from someone back in 2022… |
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Post #AtSBooPpZWFVfHCskq by [email protected] |
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@ricci huh, we just checked and it appears our instance (chaosfem.tw) is *also*… |
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@ricci European # concentration seem less distressing if we think of them as a … |
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It's the same with relays. Everything in Germany. |
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Not exactly the same.In the fediverse (activitypub) the user is tied to just on… |
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Post #AtSBwvaslcxmFDFJJY by [email protected] |
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@ricci not sure if this make sense, but I feel like the comparison between USA … |
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Post #AtSBy70FpjdLv2g6Uq by [email protected] |
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@ricci very cool! |
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@dan @ricci hahaha,reminds me of that guy who through his hobby learned to reco… |
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Post #AtSC0NCUaCbmjXTr0a by [email protected] |
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@ricci that’s likely because both OVH and Hetzner operate at the budget end o… |
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@dan You only have to host 10 domains to get it pretty far up there!(FWIW, I di… |
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Post #AtSC72UVyhQEX25ZwG by [email protected] |
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@dan yeah I uh was able to spot the CloudFlare ones easily :) |
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@ricci "National champions" |
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doing my part |
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@ricci Hetzner probably is the cheapest provider for real dedicated servers - t… |
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Post #AtSCBiQzyYvFm6frii by [email protected] |
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@Doomed_Daniel whoa that's expensive! |
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@ricciExpensive for a dedicated server?Those are not VPS, you get the whole mac… |
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@Doomed_Daniel @ricci Scaleway is cheaper ^^; |
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@Doomed_Daniel @ricci the "Aluminium" classification of servers |
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Post #AtSCBxvKO55zoVynZo by [email protected] |
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@ricci My guess is that this is just an issue of availability, both in cheap VP… |
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@ricci looks pretty good, nice post! Would be cool to see someone make a site t… |
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@ricci hmm. thought: lots of english speaking fedifolks, but not all german ser… |
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@ricci the market in Germany and the EU in general is much smaller than in the … |
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@Doomed_Daniel Ah, I see, yeah, pretty good price for that! |
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@ricci Yeah, so I guess if you got a slightly bigger instance that needs more p… |
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@echedellelr @Doomed_Daniel yeah if I was going to host something in Europe, I&… |
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@ricci if you look at who's behind cloudflare, the US providers score goes … |
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@ricci should also be noted that my instance at least is hosted on-premises and… |
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my relay is in Sofia... one of the most densely connected cities in the world, … |
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btw, as far as places to run relays in europe goes, bulgaria is probably number… |
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@ricci Also keep in mind there's people that host their fedi instances at h… |
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@ricci You have to factor in the size. Entire Europe is smaller than the US.Com… |
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@ricci @13reak hm. No. Absolutely not.The EU alone (only member states, so not … |
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@ricci I see this little server isn't mapped (I'm in New Zealand so it&… |
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@stephen yeah I don't know much about how fedidb sources its data but I'… |
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@starsider yeah this would be really interesting to learn! |
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@wyatt It also appears that a significant number of servers use VPNsAccording t… |
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@ricci i'm running an openVPN server on my VPS to tunnel the traffic actual… |
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@wyatt yeah, I do this for my own mailserver too |
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@ricci I would bet that those two European hosts are being used by mastohost an… |
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@ombremad @ricci :blobopenmout: Whaaaaat? The entire country is empty! |
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@ricci would also be interesting to run the numbers relative to users or active… |
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@ricci Ain't that bad once you treat Germany like Texas and France like Cal… |
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@erincandescent Ooh, that's an excellent analysis, very nice way to determi… |
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Thanks to suggestions from others, I did this with a much larger dataset of 27k… |
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@ricci Far be it for me to suggest more work, but if someone had the energy to … |
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@jtk https://fedi.wrm.sr/ does this |
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@ricci @jtk That's a sweet site |
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@jtk I will also put up the raw data somwhere later, but it's a busy day... |
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@ricci I find it silly that on your discussion of fediverse resilience, the lin… |
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@cec047b yeah I killed my instance 😀 |
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Ironically, I think I temporarily killed the instance I'm on by editing my … |
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@ricci 1. How many of the EU ones are from masto-dot-host? I counted about 180 … |
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@elithebearded 1. I didn't specifically capture this, and my 'data pipl… |
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@ricci one thing to note is that different fediverse systems have different hos… |
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@ricci overall top 1010819 US 4579 DE 2885 FR 961 JP 682 PT 585 GB 558 FI … |
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@ricci top IPv6 is somewhat predictable.9383 2606:4700:3000::/42 - Cloudflare 1… |
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@ricci the other thing to note is that any instance using Cloudflare, Fastly an… |
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@markrprior right; someone else in this thread pointed me to this excellent blo… |
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@ricci Figures and charts are very interesting, thanks! But I'm quite skept… |
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@ulvida My specific interest here was in the comparison to BlueSky WRT its outa… |
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@ricci ok, I understand the technical point of view. Global failure is indeed a… |
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@markrprior This is very interesting! I did suspect that there might be a diffe… |
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@lord https://discuss.systems/@ricci/114399081190284614 |
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@lord Aha! I didn't know about this, will try again with this list |
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@ricci I'm a little surprised not to see more university-based instances. G… |
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@lolcat Well, I only specifically posted the top hosts, there certainly could b… |
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@ricci Could be. But being so far down the list suggests to me a big change in … |
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@lolcat I know what you mean, I ran an Unreal Tournament server on campus when … |
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@ricci Yeah, that trend contributed to my decision to bow out of academia a few… |
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@ricci Kids, join your campus HPC club, if you have one. If not, start one! |
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@ricci it's worth noting that the fedidb dataset categorically excludes got… |
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@Doomed_Daniel @ricci oof, not nice… |
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@ricci I truly believe that cloudflare centralizion is a bad thing. So almost 1… |
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@melroy @ricci the challenge is going to be an alternative easy and affordable … |
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@paul_ipv6 @ricci You are 100% correct. So instead of just saying, do not use b… |
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@melroy @ricci it's a start and fine for folks running their own linux serv… |
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@paul_ipv6 I won’t use X |
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@jpmens not *that* X... ;) |
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@ricci You might want to explore nostr.Its the most decentralized social networ… |
