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Oh, this is interesting (and a little scary)tl;dr don’t use SSDs for long ter… | |
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@WiteWulf oh yes one of our PhD supervisors found this out the hard way a few y… | |
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@kcarruthers 😳😬 | |
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@WiteWulf they literally opened a cupboard with all these external drives in it… | |
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@WiteWulf Very scary. This sets us up for digital amnesia ...(puts old-fashione… | |
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@quincy @WiteWulf Thank you all for the thread. New thoughts about an older bri… | |
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@kcarruthers @WiteWulf WAIT, but that was /only/ ssd drives, the old-school spi… | |
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@maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf they’re stored in iron filings that are temp… | |
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@lilstevie @maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf There are 40 year old floppy disks … | |
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@Kroc @maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf yep, the key there was eventually. Sinni… | |
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@WiteWulf I don't believe in offline data storage and archiving. Keep it on… | |
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@thomasbeagle @WiteWulf I wonder when a bunch of this obsessive backup of data … | |
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@artnacrea @WiteWulf Some years ago. 😀The number of people I know with multi… | |
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@thomasbeagle @artnacrea @WiteWulf The important thing isn't whether or not… | |
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@WiteWulf Flash needs periodic scrubbing, that should be well known? And yes, s… | |
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@pavel it is not well known to the vast majority of users. | |
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@WiteWulf Well, if you want more scary stuff... cut SSD power during write oper… | |
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@WiteWulf you just saved me a few hundred bucks - thanks ! | |
Post #AtBAsCottHU2a4fVZI by [email protected] | |
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@WiteWulf less than that. I discovered a few weeks ago that my western digital … | |
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@WiteWulf I wonder if this experience maps to other flash memory based storage,… | |
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@karlauerbach well, that’s the flip side to having a good backup medium: if y… | |
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@WiteWulf Way back in the 1970's the Social Security Administration in the … | |
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@WiteWulf funny to see this two weeks after the exact same thing was "debu… | |
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@WiteWulf BUt but .. I heard they were guaranteeing at least 10 years data rete… | |
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@WiteWulf Is that really a new information?SSDs are flash storage and work by k… | |
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@WiteWulf Considering that this essentially Flashable Memory technology, I can&… | |
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@WiteWulf TLC, three/triple level cell, SSD is widely known to be the least rel… | |
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@maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf Magnetic domains on the plates are, the questi… | |
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@Kroc @lilstevie @maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf Even those are bit hit'n&… | |
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@WiteWulf I find it fascinating that we have data that was put on storage 4000 … | |
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@WiteWulf Yep. Well known for a long time. SSDs great for (fast) backup/restore… | |
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@WiteWulf I wonder how this will affect "rotating rust" hard drives -… | |
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@wonka @WiteWulf flash memory for firmware usually lasts way longer due to the … | |
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@WiteWulf So if you use the drive every few months, it should be Ok?Is the driv… | |
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@thomasbeagle @WiteWulf And then your country is suddenly banned from the servi… | |
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@tyx @WiteWulf Sorry, clash of jargon there. By online I mean "powered up … | |
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@gilesgoat oh mate, you ought to read some of the horror stories of audio engin… | |
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@kcarruthers @WiteWulf I'm shocked every time I hear the only copy of someo… | |
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@wonka @WiteWulf Yeah, makes me curious about the thumb drives too.On the othe… | |
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@askaaron @WiteWulfI remember papers from a decade ago linking write and storag… | |
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@karlauerbach @WiteWulf It does, tested it for you. Had an USB stick for long t… | |
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@maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf No, HDD drives last longer but will still fail… | |
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@WiteWulf Is powering them up enough every now and then, or do you have to re-r… | |
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@WiteWulf Daaamn 😱 | |
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@sintrenton Had gotten one with USB-A and USB-C for "if I need one" -… | |
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@anizocani @maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf this is true for modern drives with… | |
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@wonka @WiteWulf All flash memory requires refresh. If they have dedicated fla… | |
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@patrick @wonka @WiteWulf and don't forget to keep multiple copies in separ… | |
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@WiteWulf Data management 2035? | |
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@guardeddon @WiteWulf Practically everything on sale these days is TLC. I'v… | |
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@WiteWulf no shit. Do you know, that bit errors are a thing of concern for comp… | |
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@flakiThe article you linked is 10 years old! Given multi level flash has becom… | |
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@WiteWulf The same goes for most flash storage media. Trapping electrons long t… | |
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@mespique @WiteWulf Also, cat content was already common with them Egypts. So w… | |
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@WiteWulf otoh I have a couple TLC drives I bought 10 years ago and under almos… | |
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@WiteWulf yup. There's a reason so much money is spent researching archival… | |
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@maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf HDDs have a limited "storage life" a… | |
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@TLisaB @maybenot @kcarruthers @WiteWulf I'd assume the gold standard for l… | |
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@Natanox tape is good as long as there’s still functional tape drivesMy compa… | |
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@WiteWulf How could anyone be surprised at this? Hard Drive has a storage life… | |
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@WiteWulf we're just never going to get rid of tape, are we. 🫠 |