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Been unhappy with the use of "parent/child" to describe relationships… | |
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@lritter crotch/branch 😙 👌 | |
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@dysfun trunk, like root, are both already used in this context to describe the… | |
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@lritter predecessor/ successor | |
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@lritter depends on context, but i do use super/sub or container/content a lot | |
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@mithos four syllables / three syllables | |
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@lritter abbrev.: pred. / succ. | |
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@serapath super/sub is ok if not particularly graphic. i already use it for typ… | |
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@dysfun precisely why it's not optimal. | |
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@mithos abbreviations make me sad. | |
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@lritter hub/spoke doesn't really work because a wheel doesn't have a h… | |
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@mrsbeanbag > a wheel doesn't have a hierarchy of hubs and spokeschallen… | |
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@lritter node/leaf, with the issue that "leaf" implies terminal node,… | |
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@nicopap yeah, these are already used and have fixed meaning. "node" … | |
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@lritter the other thing is if they are going to call it a tree why do they alw… | |
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@lritter "unsettling to the uninitiated" Reminds me of the classic Fa… | |
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@mrsbeanbag | |
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@lritter for a dependency graph, I find def/use a lot clearer (and lines up bet… | |
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@lritter @dysfun vertex, successors ?(also chewing on the idea of explicit recu… | |
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@mjj8 @dysfun 2-syllables / 3-syllables."vertex", like "node&quo… | |
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@pkhuong someone else just said they use hub/sub, and just like there, i don… | |
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@lritter sometimes i also use hub/sub | |
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best alternative suggestion made was super/sub by @serapathIt had about the sam… | |
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@lritter I have been wondering about this too. I’m thinking of using “fork�… | |
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@lritter there's other words that also need to fit somehow, e.g. sibling. I… | |
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@lritter I like node/edge but it doesn't reflect the directional/hierarchic… | |
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@mmby botanists will find your choice of terms revolting %) | |
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@dotstdy if we stick by super/sub, then "par" could work. | |
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@dotstdy the digital halfwit guessed it right, so that's a good sign | |
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@dotstdy digital halfwit suggested "apex" for the root to fit the lat… | |
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we had, at this point, as replacements:parent -> super child -> subsiblin… | |
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@lritter I think fork/branch would be much more commonplace. This usage of “c… | |
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@swiftcoder it's not in botany. if we're sticking with trees. but we… | |
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@lritter @dysfun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVe3fTL1cPM | |
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@lritter @serapath I like it. It perfectly describes the contains-relationship … | |
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@lritter I was going to say „down“ and „up“ node, respectively (with �… | |
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@lritter (but then, we put the root at the top a lot of the time anyways, so) | |
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@halcy @lritter anyway branches can go both up and down | |
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@mrsbeanbag @lritter trying to think if uhhh boating terminology has better wor… | |
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@halcy @lritter oxbow leaks | |
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@halcy @lritter the other thing that does my nut is that you have to "upca… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy yeah.okay i think i have them all now.guess what each one of… | |
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@lritter @halcy i don't get par, what is par other than a golf term. apex i… | |
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@lritter i think "apex" is fine iff you document that you're usin… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy "par" (latin base for "equal, same") is … | |
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@lritter supremum and infimum (sup/inf) and min/max would probably fit super/su… | |
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@lritter @halcy i thought we were getting away from botany. i suggest "tip… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy tip isn't latin. | |
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@lritter @halcy neither am i | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy you're not even english. | |
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@lritter @halcy i'm not? | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy are you? | |
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@lritter @halcy cool, i guess. which passport can i apply for to get tf out of … | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy alright. then let me backtrack and say: but i'm not engl… | |
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@lritter @halcy are you latin? this is a criterion i didn't realise we were… | |
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@serapath @lritter sub is begging for dom tho (Pun intended) | |
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@beatrix @serapath we do have dominators in graph theory*, and they're even… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy it's a common, i want to say, base. :> | |
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@lritter @halcy cap | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy damn. | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy cap has replaced apex. you did it. | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy so this is where we are now | |
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@lritter @halcy still don't know about par. i'm thinking co-something. … | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy co- often implies a binary relationship of opposites. but a … | |
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@lritter @halcy hmm i don't think it does, one can have any number of co-wo… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy if i had to borrow from either business terms or math, it… | |
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@lritter @halcy well a number can have a lot of coprimes | |
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@lritter @halcy also sub and super seem inconsistent with base and cap (super m… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @lritter also, practical issue: sub and super both start with the s… | |
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@halcy @mrsbeanbag super and sub do indeed encode "above" and "b… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcywhat you're thinking of is a set of co-prime numbers | |
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@lritter @halcy yeah it describes a relationship between two numbers but if x a… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy there appears to be no existing term of a co-node, so why no… | |
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@halcy @mrsbeanbag okay, something that i like more, because it works for graph… | |
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@lritter @halcy one can traverse a DAG in post- or pre-order. | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy "Labeled tree graph diagram with four nodes. The graph … | |
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@lritter @mrsbeanbag @halcy Hmm, but why isn't the par link 2-directional? … | |
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@teadrinker @mrsbeanbag @halcy par is the sibling | |
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there were still issues with up/down here. topologically, this was a mess.deriv… | |
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in general, picking prefixes is a good choice because that allows swapping &quo… | |
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@lritter UE used this setup for object instance relationships:outer = parentinn… | |
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@MikkoMononen i'm throwing super/sub away because they mean above/below, an… | |
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Here's the last mapping, called SPIRE notation or terminology.Sym-,syn-: si… | |
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@dysfun it's a diagram for the notation and a notation for the diagram | |
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@lritter | |
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@mrsbeanbag accurate description of what i'm feeling right now.for acyclic … | |
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@mrsbeanbag and would you believe it, a spire is also a botanical term... for t… | |
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@lritter now all that's left is the simple matter of getting all computer s… | |
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@mrsbeanbag since i have that problem with everything i invent i'll leave t… | |
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@lritter Many moons ago, when I needed a generic node that could be plucked fro… | |
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@lritter I have a nagging feeling that if you go with the top/bottom metaphor, … | |
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@lritter @dysfun "sub" has a somewhat similar problem. | |
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@lritter After reading this thread, my conclusion is that the traditional paren… | |
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@lritter "may sound confusing and unsettling to the uninitiated"Proba… | |
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@lritter @dotstdy "parent/child/sibling is too confusing for the uninitiat… | |
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@Doomed_Daniel @dotstdy i don't like english a lot lately. | |
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@lritter @dotstdy Not sure if Latin is much better when you consider Roman or C… | |
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@Doomed_Daniel @dotstdy romans are dead for a long time now. | |
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@lritter node / sub node? | |
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@lritter @halcy you know what i'm kinda curious now. where did you think i … | |
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@mrsbeanbag @halcy the domain of your instance. i didn't read the fine prin… | |
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@lritter @halcy lol yeah i moved off of the generic starter mastodon a couple o… | |
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@lritter @mrsbeanbag Calling a child a "sub" mixes up my qbasic brain… | |
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@GabeMoralesVR @mrsbeanbag well this is already past. now we have post/ret whic… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @lritter @halcy oooh, what game?? I've got my Amiga on right no… | |
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@GabeMoralesVR @lritter @halcy Mr Nutz | |
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@mrsbeanbag @lritter @halcy That was the very first amiga game I ever bought!! … | |
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@GabeMoralesVR @lritter @halcy you know what i've never actually played it.… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @lritter @halcy It's probably the best "sonic clone" … | |
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@GabeMoralesVR @lritter @halcy yeah Kid Chaos is your typical ugly cartoon chil… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @lritter @halcy I also appreciate that Mr. Nutz isn't one of th… | |
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@GabeMoralesVR @lritter @halcy "eurojank" i like it rofl. yeah. i wan… | |
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@mrsbeanbag @GabeMoralesVR @halcy i remember SWIV, xenon megablast, speedball, … | |
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@lritter I'm *used to* parent/child... but, yeah, really it sucks.It implie… | |
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@AthanSpod and some royal family "trees" are DAGs! | |
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@lritter @mrsbeanbag @halcy I think everyone who lived through the 80s remember… | |
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@GabeMoralesVR @mrsbeanbag @halcy the only two arcade machines i remember were … | |
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@lritter @mrsbeanbag @halcy I grew up on a delightful stream of Sega arcade mac… | |
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@GabeMoralesVR @lritter @halcy i didn't get to experience them that often t… | |
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@mmby @lritter similarly i have used branch and twig | |
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@dotstdy @lritter i used nibling a couple times ;) |