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Post #Ascombm9OC9nsMfd9U by [email protected] |
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i can tell I've been writing this terminal zine for too long because I just… |
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Post #AscombtwvCOaGYJrJA by [email protected] |
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I am learning some upsetting-to-me things from reading the bash man page, for e… |
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Post #Ascombzca6vsY8yO9I by [email protected] |
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@b0rk What should be the correct behavior? |
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Post #Ascp7is6CZhTxsWMeu by [email protected] |
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@Xavier I think I would expect it to just look locally like most commands that … |
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Post #Ascp7ixlrUEmFTAtV2 by [email protected] |
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@anderson_jon I'm in my 40s now, but I took a course at Georgia Tech where … |
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Post #AscrZu4kL4vejK0BmK by [email protected] |
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@b0rk yeah, that's right."what's the source of [command]?" |
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Post #AscrZuCBtOsr6PU8Nk by [email protected] |
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@RandomDamage @b0rk maybe you’re thinking of `which`?My understanding is that… |
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Post #AscrZuIDWzhjP6Iwm8 by [email protected] |
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@klikini @b0rk d'oh! Yeah, you're right.Also, hey, that's handy!I w… |
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Post #AsdCkl8i09ltEosCBs by [email protected] |
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something else I learned from reading `man bash` is that by default when you cl… |
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Post #AsdCklFRb79vZi1Zgm by [email protected] |
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ok the bash manual contains interesting facts but it's extremely hard for m… |
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Post #AsdCklMXAkpXvhLEjw by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Are bad guesses about what it isn't allowed? |
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Post #AsdFLydoxsVpjhIfq4 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Pretty sure the imagined audience is the authors. ;) |
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Post #AsgpQgI6nUyi60ZBi4 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Written by nerds for nerds.To be fair, so were historic Unix manuals insi… |
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Post #AsgpQgOUPm5APnYHei by [email protected] |
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@oclsc by "nerds" do you mean something like "people who have al… |
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Post #AsgpQgUs23BcjaXNbM by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Nerd is a variable concept, but here I mean people who love to wallow erm… |
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Post #AsgpQgbxbgrF5Zr2eW by [email protected] |
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@oclsc @b0rk I consider myself a nerd also, but the issue here is that it's… |
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Post #AsgpQgiLDxxhPMq8bA by [email protected] |
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@saraislet @b0rk I agree! Hence my reference to the halcyon days of 7/e Unix wh… |
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Post #AsgpQgq8kyCTnYUMkq by [email protected] |
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@saraislet @b0rk Here's an extract from 7/e sh(1):In this case the terminat… |
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Post #AsgpQgyIGeiqCqIsSm by [email protected] |
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@saraislet @b0rk The people who wrote that entry were exceptionally good writer… |
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Post #AsgpQh6nl1WmdEHfiy by [email protected] |
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@oclsc @saraislet @b0rk I don't think there is any special property that ma… |
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Post #AsgpQhDtKfCOzDbKm8 by [email protected] |
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@raven667 @oclsc @b0rk because people who do that sort of thing are usually the… |
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Post #AsgpQhJuyG1HHuQ9AW by [email protected] |
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@saraislet @raven667 @oclsc i’ve only very rarely tried to contribute docs im… |
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Post #AsgpQhQIaX7jbhPF7A by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @saraislet @raven667 Yeah, that's a big part of the problem: people j… |
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Post #AsgpQhVyFRf1tI3lxI by [email protected] |
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@oclsc it's much easier for me because the only people who get to "app… |
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Post #AsgpQre8Zw8RJVxR4a by [email protected] |
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@b0rk When I started with Unix ca. 1980, it really was possible just to read th… |
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Post #AsgpS4008ZarukkwQS by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Sort of like my time in the Unix research group! It had a nice community … |
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Post #AsgpSNO63D9o2zAx7Y by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Oh the history of bash's weird manpage is _a thing_. For a long time … |
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Post #AsgpSNU7gnygLfzlVw by [email protected] |
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@aredridel hmm this is the manual I'm reading which I assume is the manual … |
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Post #AsgpSNbDGReIhfJQZ6 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Yup. That looks like a derivative of the info docs, in typical GNU "… |
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Post #AsgpSNhEu2TB0M8ExU by [email protected] |
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@aredridel oh interesting!! I guess that's why it says "This manual is… |
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Post #AsgpSjXPhFgKkFhhhI by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Right?! It's _such_ a mess, both of them. |
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Post #AsgpSzbXxeUkZhlEMS by [email protected] |
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@b0rk honestly, surprising you had not formed the thought as "oh, it might… |
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Post #AsgpSziHYbsmuaubrM by [email protected] |
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@riffraff i think it’s basically the same document |
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Post #AsgpTRChLdFuAkLmW8 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk it was a bad joke about the time days when you tried to open the man page… |
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Post #AsgpTeQeB58bBlybZ2 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk it’s a GNU project, and they institutionally believe you shouldn’t us… |
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Post #AsgpTeXjkioDXlIGcC by [email protected] |
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@lluad the GNU bash manual is the document I linked to |
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Post #AsgpTtBbJJ0yxS3Ih6 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk also `source` and `.` are not interchangeable, learned that one the hard … |
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Post #AsgpTtHyva7RHF2Odk by [email protected] |
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@changemewtf is that in zsh or bash? |
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Post #AsgpU1irZWNJQvfyeO by [email protected] |
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@b0rk That's a great question. I have to check our deployed environments, I… |
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Post #AsgpUGRKqyGd4uague by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Hmm, I always start GUI programs like `chromium & exit` in a terminal… |
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Post #AsgpUGX0VsnvMVFDkm by [email protected] |
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@HeptaSean yeah you’d have to use nohup |
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Post #AsgpUVm5q4mgddPyqm by [email protected] |
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@b0rk Ah, thanks! Totally forgot about that one. Might even be clearer. 🤔 |
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Post #AsgpVGMAeGyX6qeRTE by [email protected] |
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@b0rk I seem to recall “. Foo.sh” doesn’t do that? |
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Post #AsgpVGSCHrnPPXTFrc by [email protected] |
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@ripienaar the man page claims source is just a synonym for `.` |
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Post #AsgpVPEhdPLieIE6a0 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk damn |
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Post #AsgpVPMVAPaV2TsKjg by [email protected] |
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@ripienaar @b0rk Quoth The Standard:If file does not contain a <slash>, t… |
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Post #AsgpVPVMdSg1Ty1PY8 by [email protected] |
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@ripienaar @b0rk I think bash has always had `source`, which is a csh-ism that … |
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Post #AsgpVvkMlDgtTlHqNM by [email protected] |
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@Xavier I thought `source blah.sh` was the same as `source ./blah.sh`! |
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Post #AsgpW9dn6SkYZQJn4S by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @Xavier Huh...I, for one, expect PATH to be consulted by default. |
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Post #AsgpW9mIapYUzoIaKe by [email protected] |
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@wesmorgan1 @b0rk @Xavier why, though? |
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Post #AsgpWC2gAtqY1Byh8q by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @Xavier :blobcatfearful: |
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Post #AsgpWJA1hyso60TA48 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @Xavier Ewww, that is seriously gross. I had to test it and was shocked … |
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Post #AsgpWJHpEz7aUC7ODo by [email protected] |
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@timbray @b0rk @Xavier Ick. But isn’t that what PATH is for? Isn’t that why… |
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Post #AsgpWRJBPoxdMioaRs by [email protected] |
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@rmartinnielsen @timbray @b0rk @Xavier tangentially my favorite [1] thing about… |
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Post #AsgpWa016RyeJsuuK8 by [email protected] |
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@b0rk @Xavier Me too. |
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Post #AsgpWbyJljo4RC8ZxA by [email protected] |
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@timbray @b0rk @Xavier At least zsh looks in . first and only checks PATH if no… |
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Post #AsgpWnzT5HrBiElfPc by [email protected] |
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@conniptions @timbray @b0rk @Xavier this behaviour is documented in the standar… |
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Post #AsgpWyQQHvMO4jSKoa by [email protected] |
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@rmartinnielsen @timbray @b0rk @Xavier we do NOT put . in PATH, for security re… |
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Post #AsgpX3T5XRSliRk2AC by [email protected] |
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@rmartinnielsen @timbray @b0rk @Xavier Having . in PATH is a rooky mistake many… |
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Post #AsgpXFRl0DWornD8kq by [email protected] |
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@malte @b0rk @Xavier Since PATH is consulted for all other commands, so why sho… |
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Post #AsgpXjObeUpjkhy30a by [email protected] |
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@b0rk that reminds me that I wanted to send https://mendeddrum.org/@fanf/114253… |
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Post #AsgpXjVhE8VM6hHi3k by [email protected] |
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@janl this is incredible and answers one of the random questions I had while re… |
