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Taking a stroll through my spam folder, I saw a bunch of legitimate messages fr… | |
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@jwz The stats we collect for the #SpamAssassin project (mass-scan results from… | |
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@grumpybozo Wow, that's amazing. Great job everybody! So glad we spent so m… | |
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@jwz @grumpybozo just one more public key in a TXT record, that'll fix emai… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz we use these for anti-phishing. Until I started my current job… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz email authentication like DMARC/SPF does one thing: it prevent… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz while i wouldn't call them useless, SPF/DKIM/DMARC do have… | |
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@atax1a @jwz It is a frustration that for DKIM, DMARC, and SPF to be as trustwo… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz and don't get us started on how dnssec is untroubleshootab… | |
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@paul_ipv6 @grumpybozo I had *way* too many false positives with spamhaus et al… | |
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@jwz @grumpybozo huh. i use sbl-xbl and have not had problems with false positi… | |
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@paul_ipv6 @jwz I would never call them useless. They're just not everythin… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz yeah, trying to figure out DMARC issues is... fun. and ARC is … | |
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@deepthoughts10 @grumpybozo @jwz and the mail clients most people use don’t e… | |
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@mkoek The primary purpose of positive email authentication is to enable receiv… | |
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@paul_ipv6 @grumpybozo @jwz I configured my mail server to soft-reject mail fro… | |
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@deepthoughts10 wrote: "email authentication like DMARC/SPF does one thing… | |
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@atax1a @jwz @grumpybozo i hear if we just get everyone to have just the right … | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz SPF, DKIM, and DMARC were never designed to stop spam — they… | |
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@freddieleeman To be fair having a valid DKIM signature gives you a negative sc… | |
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@link2xt @grumpybozo @jwz By default, a DKIM signature adds a small positive sc… | |
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@tychotithonus @deepthoughts10 @grumpybozo @jwz yes, but as long as you can eas… | |
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@mkoek Analogy from physical mail may help. Today, anyone can put any return ad… | |
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@tychotithonus @deepthoughts10 @grumpybozo @jwz Thanks, I know how it works and… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz Bonus round: GMail themselves effectively requires 'DMARC&… | |
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@cks @grumpybozo My experience is that "forward mail from your own domain … | |
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@jwz @grumpybozo We may well have been lucky in that we're a long establish… | |
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@cks @grumpybozo "Nothing works unless Google deigns to grant you a person… | |
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@jwz @cks @grumpybozo Microsoft is the same, for the record. An e-mail could ar… | |
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@jwz @grumpybozo I fully expect that someday GMail will decide to stop acceptin… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz The SPF, DKIM and DMARC was from an era when spam was primaril… | |
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@neel @jwz @grumpybozo I use the Spamhaus DROP list.. it blocks a lot of crap f… | |
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@cks @jwz @grumpybozo The professors can set up Gmail so that it collects the m… | |
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@nielsk @jwz @grumpybozo Sadly modern security practices are going to kill off … | |
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@cks @jwz @grumpybozo The mail provider I use personally has switched on app-pa… | |
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@nielsk @cks @jwz "App passwords" are a reasonable solution. They lac… | |
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@grumpybozo @nielsk @jwz If you're lucky, people will enter the app passwor… | |
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@cks @nielsk @jwz The proper implementation of app passwords inflict consequenc… | |
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@jwz @cks @grumpybozo Gmail's POP3 polling has the fun feature that trigger… | |
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@grumpybozo :flan_think: what I'm hearing is that I should reject mail as s… | |
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@gaelicWizard @jwz It is nuts, and anti-phishing is what mail authentication is… | |
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@cks @jwz The only ways to do forwarding that doesn't break SPF is to use S… | |
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@jwz @cks @grumpybozo . Huh, that's interesting. I do forward my domain ema… | |
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@jwz @grumpybozo maybe should give hashcash - the proof of work idea that spawn… | |
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@ghard @jwz We (the #SpamAssassin project) had support for HashCash for well ov… | |
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@grumpybozo @ghard @jwz I slavishly added hashcash headers to all my outgoing m… | |
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@kitten_tech @grumpybozo @ghard @jwz I'm still pretty convinced that it'… | |
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@cks @grumpybozo @jwz SRS usually breaks if there is a strict DMARC-policy in p… | |
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@grumpybozo @atax1a @jwz Intent of SPF was to get to the point that a domain re… | |
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@nwp @grumpybozo @jwz none of this is true or follows from the premises, hth | |
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@neel @grumpybozo @jwz SPF is still helpful to figure out if I overblocked if s… | |
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@nielsk @neel @jwz Right. Both SPF and DKIM can be useful as *positive* signals… | |
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@paul_ipv6 @grumpybozo I don't remember. It happened a couple of times and … | |
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@jwz @paul_ipv6 @grumpybozo TBF, most of the spam I get is from AWS, gmail and … | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz In my experience spammers have a better setup in that regard t… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz The un-forwardable place we encountered had set up SPF but was… | |
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@neel @jwz There really hasn't been a huge change during this century, and … | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz i run my own mailserver. how do i contribute? | |
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@cathysarisky @jwz @cks It becomes a problem when the forwarding includes spam,… | |
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@Viss @jwz See the SpamAssassin website:https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/dis… | |
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@grumpybozo @jwz thanks! | |
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@jwz @paul_ipv6 The Spamhaus services have gotten complicated enough that they … | |
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@cks @grumpybozo @jwz I guess it's at about a 100 years since I looked into… | |
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@jwz At least the bad guys can't forge the From address any more. I'm n… | |
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@argv_minus_one Well that's the thing, I have yet to discover a way for pos… | |
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@jwz Hmm true. You could run a milter that checks DKIM and rejects any message … | |
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@jrychter @paul_ipv6 @grumpybozo Almost all of the spam I get is from Google. G… | |
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@florian @jwz LOL. Not that either. | |
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@jwz @cks @grumpybozo it depends on how you do it. I use my DNS provider’s op… | |
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@atax1a @jwz @grumpybozo gotta plan to deal with that, just waiting for an “i… | |
Post #AtEDW6QVrZ2ViaIF3Q by [email protected] | |
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@nielsk @jwz Exactly. Spammers have one job: getting mail into your mailbox. Th… | |
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@argv_minus_one https://jwz.org/b/yklC | |
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@jwz DKIM and SPF allow good actors to use a consistent identifier that allows … | |
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@sabik @cks @grumpybozo Yes, it's awesome! Maybe in the next release they c… | |
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@jwz Google and Yahoo are only enforcing that on bulk mail, and fairly carefull… |