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The AI bots that desperately need OSS for code training, are now slowly killing… | |
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@bagder the irony is that ai crawlers are likely based on curl | |
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I think users (like GitHub/MS and friends) have a responsibility to push back o… | |
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@bagder send them into the labyrinth! https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/03/cloudf… | |
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@bagder What is the use of them hammering the website over and over again. They… | |
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@gbraad @bagder You'd have to block entire data centers and many of those a… | |
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@truh this is actually happening by one of the actors in the opposite direction… | |
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@gbraad Should clarified that I'm only talking from my limited experience. … | |
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@truh I have been in hosting for 'decades' (dang, that sounds bad). And… | |
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@bagder We collected 470K IPv4s from a botnet that was trying to get all the co… | |
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@gbraad I don't really want Cloudflare to have my traffic. | |
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@truh there is fastly... | |
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@gbraad Cloudflare and its competitors all decrypt your traffic... I don't … | |
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@gbraad It's the infrastructure equivalent of inviting Jeffrey Goldberg int… | |
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@gbraad @bagder And when you ask a chatbot it tells you their cutoff date is No… | |
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@truh @gbraad not "all", depends what sort of protection you're u… | |
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@bracken @truh Right, I also do not terminate (re-encrypt) at them... this is n… | |
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@bagder i mean Microsoft are tied quite heavily into the AI business themselves… | |
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@bagder ive had people tell me it's the projects fault for not using github… | |
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@pearl @bagder we should do exactly the opposite, putting all our keys in one c… | |
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@SRAZKVT @pearl it also doesn't help. curl for example already hosts its gi… | |
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@bagder Hi Daniel, I have read of Anubis lastly, and I guess it would be a pote… | |
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@bagder yeah, we have similar issues on the Free Pascal / Lazarus forum 😢 | |
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That just hurts, considering how much work was put on caching optimisation in l… | |
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@bagder Block the location they are from, collect evidence and take them to cou… | |
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@gbraad we specifically don't have logs so I can't tell exactly where t… | |
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@bagder @gbraad an important part of the load can be blocked with a robots.txt … | |
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@rejzor @gbraad @bagder actually they may had _learned_ that from chatbot outpu… | |
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@bagder What the actual fuck :neocat_0_0: | |
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@bagder I see the article says "cycling through residential IP addresses a… | |
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@AndyK1970 @bagder Yes they are.They work in two time : - First they hammer dow… | |
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@gbraad @bagder They don't store the data. These bots are usually training … | |
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@bagder recently had an issue where a service I run for a friend had degraded p… | |
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@DJGummikuh I could recommend adding caching to any WordPress setup. Basically … | |
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@luc is there a good tutorial for this somewhere? I am doing this kinda half-ar… | |
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@gbraad @bagder most of them are probably written by AI | |
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@stroobl @bagder @gbraad They are often not well-behaved, and are identifying t… | |
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@bagder time for a tarpit ... | |
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@bagder what was the traffic before that? | |
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@skaverat three years ago we were at less than 20GB/month, but there is no clea… | |
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@gbraad @bagder I've seen people mention the bot don't do consecutive h… | |
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@AndyK1970 @bagder maybe, but there are also some p2p vpn solutions that claim … | |
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@bagder holy shit, | |
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@bagder literally a cancer | |
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@bagder Find which bots are the offenders and send them an invoice for the band… | |
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@bagder @skaverat sorry, curl’s traffic went up 4000x in 3 years? Or did you … | |
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@raptor @bagder guess they're just checking for updates on every request /s | |
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@jimfuller @bagder I have a git forge and a slow connection. That's basical… | |
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@bagder We noticed this on some @weblate servers as well. Used aggressive block… | |
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@bagder wish someone would jury rig a tool that responds to every AI bot reques… | |
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@bagder I now feel less bad about blocking all countries, then allow listing th… | |
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@bagder And it largely seems like bad implementations, which will not make the … | |
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@bagderI got an example of a successful defense on my timeline: https://come-fr… | |
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@bagder damn | |
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@sheogorath @bagder That is interesting...but yeah, as @rejzor also stated; the… | |
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@DJGummikuh it has been many years since I last had to set up a WordPress so I … | |
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@bagder The irony is, that most of these models, train on FOSS code will produc… | |
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@bagder can we find a way to give them code, but randomly-generated one?(I know… | |
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@oldcoder @raptor @bagder not in terms of the author having any duty to endure … | |
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@shanie @dmian @bagder The correct way to do this is to issue a NOTICE OF TARIF… | |
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@bagder This is what happens when there is competition where there should be co… | |
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@bagder There's always iocain et. al.(https://algorithmic-sabotage.github.i… | |
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@bagder Time to start defending, beginning with the blog posts. Give 'em in… | |
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@bagder and identify them and give 'em back gibberish with slow latency. Th… | |
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@Ollivdb @bagder Demo page of Nepenthes:https://zadzmo.org/nepenthes-demo | |
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@jimfuller @bagder Demo Nepenthes page:https://zadzmo.org/nepenthes-demo | |
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@sheogorath @gbraad @bagder 🤬 talk about unethical architecture | |
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@stroobl @bagder @gbraad oh you sweet summer child. you think that they would b… | |
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@leftpaddotpy @bagder @gbraad so many people here explaining me what I see work… | |
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@Ollivdb @bagder I had to dig in the chat history for this, it's so good:ht… | |
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@gkrnours @gbraad @bagder That could be. I sent GPT to explain my own code on … | |
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@benjamin @bagder There's an effort by some to either waste their time with… | |
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@tbortels @benjamin @bagder Some tooling:https://algorithmic-sabotage.github.io… | |
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@Namnatulco @tbortels @bagder @asrg the one I know are using iocaine and they a… | |
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@stroobl @bagder @gbraad from what I read, that's not the case. The bots ig… | |
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@faoluin @stroobl @bagder @gbraad it's probably because they asked their AI… | |
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@crazyeddie @gbraad @bagder Maybe my hypothesis wasn't clear. There is a cl… | |
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@bagder (not that i believe this is a good thing, frankly i wish they'd all… | |
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@stroobl @leftpaddotpy @bagder @gbraad "Didn’t know they all have access… | |
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@bagder I hope your project can survive.You remember/know in the 2000's tho… | |
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@stroobl @bagder @gbraad i am involved in running the infrastructure of a serio… | |
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@leftpaddotpy @bagder @gbraad Maybe they're less aggressive in Europe? Just… | |
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@bagder @skaverat An increase in traffic from 20 TB/month to 80 TB/month in 3 y… | |
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@oha @gbraad @bagder Is this the “singularity” they talk about? | |
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@bagder ...also other free services. | |
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@bagder but to be fair, even in this we don't play in the same league as cu… | |
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@bagder wow | |
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@strooblHi. This doesn't work. Bytedance specifically does not follow this … | |
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@bagder corporately owned organizations have all bought in the AI marketing, so… | |
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@stroobl @bagder @gbraad We recently had 10k requests from 10k different addres… | |
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@bagder honestly I'm surprised no-one has suggested litigation. In the civi… | |
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@gbraad @bagderI couldn't stop thinking about this. The maths for this are … | |
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@faoluin @stroobl @bagder @gbraad Indeed. For now, Anubis, or nephentes (both m… | |
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@truh @gbraad @bagder Yes, it creates a lot of extra work. | |
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@gkrnours @gbraad @bagder Yeah, it would be a really weird way to do it, but if… | |
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@bagder Wow. For a few months, I was wondering why I suddenly have bandwidth is… | |
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I just realized "basic auth" won't do it, because I'd effecti… | |
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@zirias you should be able to allow IPs to bypass basic auth; home, work, etc. | |
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@drscriptt Sure, but what when I use my work notebook (with this restricted &qu… | |
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@zirias fair enough.I spend a lot of time on fire fighting mode and have to dea… | |
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@bagder More about this problem (LLMs are used to create bad bots, but people m… |