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Post #ArM4wKlFYFjIV0gycC by [email protected] |
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One thing I’m seeing re: today’s Apple news is a lot of people blaming Appl… |
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Post #ArM4wKz4iqmxBtA1AG by [email protected] |
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Let’s imagine the following hypothetical. Apple is not asked by the U.K. gove… |
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Post #ArM4wLBTyiiHoMxvVI by [email protected] |
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If you’re Apple in this situation — keeping in mind that you’re dealing w… |
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Post #ArM4wLOxAdUMU9GgV6 by [email protected] |
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@matthew_d_green I thought this was the accepted reason why Apple did that? |
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Post #ArM5FGhyqMgVQqBwVk by [email protected] |
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And the fact that there’s more at stake here may be important to you, since *… |
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Post #ArM5FGoiRK4XljLK0e by [email protected] |
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@matthew_d_green I fail to see how what Apple did helps people. The UK can stil… |
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Post #ArM5FGvo0xkA7iez3o by [email protected] |
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@bontchev indeed, you don’t need a backdoor if they’ve taken the frontdoor … |
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Post #ArM6ThkJDPNVIOjDZw by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @matthew_d_green The UK’s Investigatory Powers Act gave themselves … |
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Post #ArMtTtMwtbf56AWMCW by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @matthew_d_green They didn't do that either in China, when asked … |
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Post #ArMtTtWWK1JlZr007U by [email protected] |
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@jan @bontchev @matthew_d_green but doesn't ADP (by design at least) mean t… |
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Post #ArMtTteJr1YXy2eEHA by [email protected] |
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@_calmdowndear @jan @matthew_d_green The UK didn't ask them to give the &qu… |
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Post #ArNlIKNi2BGevQoM76 by [email protected] |
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@andrewornot @bontchev @matthew_d_green But we’re not affected, not yet at le… |
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Post #ArNlIKWvTudlO17iTo by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj @andrewornot @matthew_d_green You don't understand. The UK has no… |
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Post #ArNlhJqf9XogVnGqnY by [email protected] |
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@jan @bontchev @matthew_d_green Democratically elected governments should force… |
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Post #ArNlhJySgY3Styv4xE by [email protected] |
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@tinkel @jan @matthew_d_green I am not asking Apple to "fight against the … |
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Post #ArNlhK5YGBj5FyEk0O by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @jan @matthew_d_green You are asking US based multinational like Appl… |
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Post #ArNlhKE3kYX1gMDXGa by [email protected] |
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@tinkel @jan @matthew_d_green No. I am asking a US-based company to make a mora… |
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Post #ArNrtAUuLQMci781WC by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj @andrewornot @bontchev @matthew_d_green You are affected. If you and … |
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Post #ArRN7r4mVzuUsCGrXk by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @andrewornot @matthew_d_green Expecting Apple to pull out of every co… |
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Post #ArRN7rELwPZBLskVSi by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj @andrewornot @matthew_d_green It's not unrealistic. By exiting th… |
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Post #ArRQEg6vyw5GkqDtAW by [email protected] |
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@bontchev I didn’t say exiting the UK was unrealistic, I said exiting every c… |
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Post #ArRQEgGrO21XFcrodk by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj I am not discussing bad laws in general - I am discussing UK's an… |
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Post #ArSHXpJJIUGeML1lqa by [email protected] |
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@bontchev It’s not an isolated point. You expect Apple to pull out of the UK.… |
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Post #ArSHXpRomr4amj0Z6m by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj Only if China, the EU, and the US pass similar anti-encryption laws.B… |
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Post #ArTBpe0jdt5BxZPbwO by [email protected] |
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@bontchev Just to add that, from what I’ve read, it’s not correct to say th… |
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Post #ArTBpeBiz1sCVeYO4O by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj That's corporate weasel speak and propaganda. I think Matt had an… |
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Post #ArVRKL3y1kc9ndwDKq by [email protected] |
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@bontchev Ok, I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on the realistic/unreal… |
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Post #ArVRKLI9B1xOVcZXRA by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj Yes, the company has to follow the local laws or leave the country. M… |
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Post #ArVRKLPwi2CAtoDlaq by [email protected] |
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@bontchev So leaving China, and withdrawing secure iCloud services to the citiz… |
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Post #ArVRKLchwaP5XOBxU8 by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj Are you intentionally misinterpreting what I said in order to waste m… |
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Post #ArVRUNcBOVZ6bsjK1Q by [email protected] |
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@bontchev “Google's withdrawal showed them that they would have been bett… |
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Post #ArVRUNkgssN32Gi7Hc by [email protected] |
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@tuckerjj No. Unlike Google's withdrawing from China, Apple didn't with… |
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Post #As1LhWpoFJj9aI5ek4 by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @matthew_d_green "Fail to see how... Helps people"So there … |
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Post #As1LhWwtoxOlwHPJnE by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @bontchev @matthew_d_green No, we did not vote for this. Never has it … |
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Post #As1LhX3dPumoHAYhI8 by [email protected] |
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@dezz @bontchev @matthew_d_green To be clear, I'm not talking about whether… |
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Post #As1LhXA12BtGaxXnEm by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @bontchev @matthew_d_green All legitimate, yes |
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Post #As1Lhh7C1XZfT6IgE4 by [email protected] |
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@dezz @bontchev @matthew_d_green So this is where we're in a tight spot. I … |
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Post #As1LhhDZdog7mtHmAi by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @dezz @matthew_d_green They cannot ignore the UK law if they have any … |
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Post #As1LhiHVgfQB5O8Qwi by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @matthew_d_green to be clear, I don't personally agree with the B… |
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Post #As1LiI8YNReCI2Dmz2 by [email protected] |
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@dezz @bontchev @matthew_d_green That’s a world of difference from the UK gov… |
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Post #As1LinNAFAkpAKIOYq by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @matthew_d_green No, I do not. Violating the privacy of people's d… |
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Post #As1LinSTvP0XQomdqi by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @matthew_d_green In my comment I differentiate the UK and Russia. We … |
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Post #As1LinXRcwyfgD6baK by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @matthew_d_green Yes, I do think so. And I didn't say what you thi… |
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Post #As1LinclJBENwhaqsC by [email protected] |
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@bontchev @matthew_d_green based on the articles I have read, they have only tu… |
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Post #As1LinkCrVBaJn4nTc by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @matthew_d_green Yes, I do. The UK law applies to EVERYONE's data.… |
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Post #As1LioOyPvnOME9M1I by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @dezz @matthew_d_green No. I do not like UK's law but every countr… |
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Post #As1LiweVk2yfwjTsLg by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @matthew_d_green "I won't do business in a country that has s… |
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Post #As1Lj7zTaRHf6wNH3Q by [email protected] |
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@gatesvp @bontchev @matthew_d_green Then I must have missed what you meant by �… |
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Post #As1LkzipIetI2tTcCu by [email protected] |
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@Mkitee_83 @tuckerjj Probably true. In my language, we have a saying "ever… |
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Post #As1Ll0qf70kjXU9O3k by [email protected] |
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@bontchev If you’re accusing Apple of lying you’d better have some evidence… |
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Post #As1Lli50NYm9cQBwsy by [email protected] |
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@bontchev FWIW I wasn’t trying to waste your time. I thought we were having a… |
