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Post #As0afjgcnRf71ERBVg by [email protected] |
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This weekend, talking to a guy who does IT at a Dutch bank.Me: So everything ru… |
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Post #As0aflVM2JpqerBDDk by [email protected] |
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(With 'they' I obviously meant Amazon or Microsoft personnel.) |
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Post #As0bzA2T8wZKCnTuOe by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen This week I have run out of facepalm emoji. |
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Post #As161yte1XcN8qcAro by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen There are actually encryption technologies that provide sufficient a… |
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Post #As161z3DRxH3cX5omm by [email protected] |
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@robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert those technologies don’t exist at a practic… |
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Post #As161zC4v0Ma41EtbE by [email protected] |
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@StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Not yet. The only one that is e… |
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Post #As161zJWTKJmR6iqCe by [email protected] |
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@david_chisnall @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert hm, isn’t sig… |
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Post #As1620PaOGlJqCZCIC by [email protected] |
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A by far larger risk is that availability of your data and your computing capac… |
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Post #As163PCTiEyH0k6SRM by [email protected] |
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@robvliet @hvangalen except no one uses that stuff in reality since it is too f… |
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Post #As163QMnNMomd1wDA0 by [email protected] |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] maybe o… |
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Post #As163QUEvglz07Q9lQ by [email protected] |
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@louisWhat does "trust" mean? The cloud provider needs those secrets … |
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Post #As163bLQYnGAfyNm3U by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen erm, yeah, British bank here, we are still merrily moving things out… |
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Post #As163bRSCO52yfCaRs by [email protected] |
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@sam @hvangalen same here, worked at a large Dutch bank for a while - there was… |
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Post #As163bYBnLT5JYLxwm by [email protected] |
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@mkoek'“the US government wants to shut you down” was not part of the r… |
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Post #As164b1NFS3fxjTdPE by [email protected] |
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @rob… |
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Post #As165Mq1SxV0GQXFNQ by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen please tell me it's not the Volksbank? But also: I remember that… |
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Post #As165Mx72bAccPquQa by [email protected] |
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@bencomp @hvangalen it could be any of them, they all want to not own servers a… |
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Post #As169xlc6iJXxHfFZY by [email protected] |
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@bert_hubert @robvliet @hvangalen the people who do use it care more about prop… |
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Post #As16Cz0dwcRsg38OSe by [email protected] |
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@momo @louis @bert_hubert @hvangalen @robvliet Not necessarily. You do need to … |
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Post #As16FZ6WiQDxCd7LqS by [email protected] |
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@robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert <puts on FedRAMP expert hat>No. Just no… |
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Post #As16FZDcI3tZYcR0tc by [email protected] |
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@robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert CC/TX/etc. does NOT protect against your &quo… |
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Post #As16FaOduYJFD6bKim by [email protected] |
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@robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Yes. Policy is a must-have, and a mitigating … |
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Post #As16Ms5oVzoo7bGg7s by [email protected] |
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@robvliet@hvangalen @bert_hubertI've assessed several of such systems, none… |
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Post #As16MsCC8GvGROFm4W by [email protected] |
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@winfriedtilanus @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Examples? |
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Post #As16MsIZkY1ilBEs1A by [email protected] |
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@robvliet@hvangalen @bert_hubertReports are not published / not published yet (… |
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Post #As16MsNXS5zr0ZYpkm by [email protected] |
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@winfriedtilanus @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Ah, yes, there’s certainly… |
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Post #As16NAcjcKqbauoDwG by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen yeah, and now you know why my bank has their own dedicaded datacente… |
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Post #As16NqgPF4jw2SqkUa by [email protected] |
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@mkoek @hvangalen @bert_hubert you know what, we have a risks meeting this afte… |
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Post #As16NqmQsfYoL9fYsy by [email protected] |
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@sam I think @bert_hubert raised an example of that exact risk in a recent blog… |
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Post #As16Nqs6Xa66ckK5j6 by [email protected] |
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@mkj @sam @bert_hubert @hvangalen Agreed. I still think they would be nuts to d… |
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Post #As16Ws3RVoJatmvXVY by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen He doesn't do IT, he does outsourcing. |
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Post #As16X4lqEYxaKxnANU by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen well ... It sums it all up.🙈🙈🙈 |
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Post #As16X4rrs9mSdebyls by [email protected] |
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@vosje62 Yeah amazing that people think that having keys stored at a cloud prov… |
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Post #As16X4xXX4JkvFGVc0 by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen i don't know much about encryption.But having an encrypted versi… |
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Post #As16X52VEcHtAdaTLc by [email protected] |
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@vosje62 @hvangalen if encryption/decryption is done server-side, it means the … |
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Post #As16X59aoFxVWcu8Om by [email protected] |
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@mkoek I didn't even think of that. 😂@hvangalen |
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Post #As16X5FcRqmNpJiwnA by [email protected] |
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@vosje62 @hvangalen key management is always the weak spot in encryption system… |
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Post #As16ZE4YcXxPlWZUW0 by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen Me: I need to install something on my system.IT: We're hardening… |
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Post #As16ZECM9YCC9iDifg by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen Me: Here's the DPIA Rijk stating it's not safe. Here's d… |
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Post #As16ZFMJpzl7kttBq4 by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen As a help to anyone wondering about this:DPIA Rijk- https://www.rijk… |
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Post #As16ZPrslUwsLgjXQO by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen what's wrong with "trust me, bro"?🫣 @vosje62 |
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Post #As16cQF1pjyuNKzeKG by [email protected] |
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@rootwyrm @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert I was not talking policy, I was tal… |
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Post #As16eTXsWJWLCZmzq4 by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen they do NOT have the keys |
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Post #As16fC7sloSrSyyN4C by [email protected] |
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@tshirtman @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert They’re using SGX,… |
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Post #As16i5Z1cnXDz034j2 by [email protected] |
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@louis @bert_hubert @robvliet @hvangalen No, you can’t. That’s why you need… |
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Post #As16qOSRGJGothvaSW by [email protected] |
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@ginkka @hvangalen I trust that world that they know more from me than I know.M… |
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Post #As16u1G9SE8I6kuS2q by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen 😂😭 |
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Post #As1786j3vYyp7E9MoK by [email protected] |
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@hvangalenThis is so cute. I used to think that it was nontechnical folk that d… |
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Post #As1786q9VCeRTDT1rU by [email protected] |
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@priryoWhen a man's salary depends on it....@hvangalen |
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@robvlietI think both risks need to addressed. Both are really hard to address … |
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Post #As17EMXS36EdtZhZa4 by [email protected] |
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@vosje62 @hvangalen PS And actually there are techniques that enable you to sea… |
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Post #As17GLY4hUonP7wJ84 by [email protected] |
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@vosje62 @hvangalen The thing is ... They use Microsofts encryption, so Microso… |
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Post #As17SSwr0xs1pSJCW8 by [email protected] |
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@priryo It was one of the reasons I left IT when I had the opportunity to do so… |
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@Zeb "DEI hire?" I don't need your provocative racist shit, GTFOH |
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Post #As17UldeUmTkNJQNwO by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen I've met my fair share of naive people saying their coms were &q… |
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Post #As17YQd8XtwiNRvg9Y by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen 🙉Never heard of double encryption, just looked at some legal stuf… |
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Post #As17YeT16KAZI7InK4 by [email protected] |
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He: No, that's against the agreement.You: *Now* we're getting somewhere… |
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Post #As17YrmHc0IyZdPreq by [email protected] |
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@priryo "ChatGPT and the cloud-provider's white-paper told me it's… |
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@hvangalen No matter how deep the cloud engineer is into their vertical & t… |
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@hvangalen <Zoekt oude sok op> |
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Post #As1AHMyZBAYTz0Vgi8 by [email protected] |
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@robvlietHonestly? It's just a question of efford. The hardware is in my ha… |
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@hvangalen can't wait for Trump to order Amazon to shut down their EU custo… |
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Post #AsD5FWcw9pFnSjDIP2 by [email protected] |
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@louis @bert_hubert @hvangalen @momo @robvliet the short answer is that the pro… |
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@louis @bert_hubert @hvangalen @momo @robvliet and of course in the case of SGX… |
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Post #AsD5Fdvd0jMe6j0p0a by [email protected] |
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@robvliet this |
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Post #AsD5GdpkqfVO6Sk0Se by [email protected] |
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@david_chisnall @tshirtman @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Hist… |
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Post #AsD5GdycJiauXwt5H6 by [email protected] |
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@david_chisnall @tshirtman @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Clou… |
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@nightmared @tshirtman @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert I have w… |
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Post #AsD5KRF3bgNUCzO21g by [email protected] |
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@nightmared @tshirtman @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert The larg… |
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Post #AsD5KRLRDxTwWmN7yK by [email protected] |
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@david_chisnall @tshirtman @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Oh, … |
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Post #AsD5KRSWnb9Yslgn1U by [email protected] |
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@nightmared @david_chisnall @tshirtman @StOnSoftware @robvliet @hvangalen @bert… |
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Post #AsD5LDweWtlrG69Wds by [email protected] |
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@robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert Yes.a) Correct me, but you need special softw… |
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c) there have been already a number of attacks against these enclaves described… |
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e) you have no guarantee how long the technology in this form will be available… |
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Post #AsD5MnuEJU3x4xlyTI by [email protected] |
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@momo @robvliet @louis @bert_hubert @hvangalen All valid questions, most have a… |
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Post #AsD5VeBBqTF1WFvFzM by [email protected] |
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@hvangalen @vosje62Exactly. You can build a super opaque box, do all the ops in… |
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Post #AsDBpZ1nJ8lZ3hPMOG by [email protected] |
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@robvliet @hvangalen @bert_hubert note that these are... Not that easy to use a… |
