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Post #AoJ539DsgS6Y2BeuA4 by [email protected] | |
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How Decentralized Is Bluesky Really? https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentrali… | |
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First of all, before I say anything else, my goal here is NOT to be mean to Blu… | |
Post #AoJ5iv9rMnowZjhGTY by [email protected] | |
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That said, let's get to the summary: Bluesky / ATProto are not decentralize… | |
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Furthermore, I think Bluesky is providing something valuable: a lot of people a… | |
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On the fediverse we also see a lot of accusations of Bluesky being owned by Jac… | |
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I participated a bit in the process of when Bluesky was Jack Dorsey and Parag A… | |
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There is also something which Bluesky gets right which the fediverse does not. … | |
Post #AoJ5ivpgrHHUfTGfg0 by [email protected] | |
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So I have opened here with the things that Bluesky does well. As you may guess,… | |
Post #AoJ5ivxqMxnr4l5BNw by [email protected] | |
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A frequent way of describing Bluesky's decentralization, including by Blues… | |
Post #AoJ5iw6hq0tNWFEGCO by [email protected] | |
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In fact ATProto's own tutorial even says "Think of our app like a Goog… | |
Post #AoJ5iwJT4Z6I9pCS5g by [email protected] | |
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While most people would argue that blogs and websites are open, few would argue… | |
Post #AoJ5iwQuct3UWugOh6 by [email protected] | |
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Relays, AppViews, etc don't just index information. Blogs and their interac… | |
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But let's stay on this blog/search engine analogy for a while before we unp… | |
Post #AoJ5iwkPSOeRVNny5I by [email protected] | |
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Furthermore there is an interesting connection between blogs and social media: … | |
Post #AoJ5iwsYy5AnufcTnE by [email protected] | |
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Feed readers are also simple, and in fact they were even easy to self host, eve… | |
Post #AoJ5ix0MV5PaIrGhwu by [email protected] | |
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This was sad for me especially; my favorite medium on the internet ever was web… | |
Post #AoJ5ix8W0lvwi95Deq by [email protected] | |
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This may seem like an enormous aside, but it isn't. The big sell currently … | |
Post #AoJ5ixHjSVJ3AjOa1Y by [email protected] | |
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So. It isn't enough to self-host your own PDS. Whether or not people can ru… | |
Post #AoJ5ixQavYOZcDXeq0 by [email protected] | |
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Today, there is only one real organization running a Relay that really matters … | |
Post #AoJ5ixZ6PvCW2bWS6C by [email protected] | |
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People are trying; most notably alice has done some great work recently: https:… | |
Post #AoJ8XkqVfNHTGo0sHg by [email protected] | |
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@cwebber i will read the rest after a Thank You :Di am only at like 10% through… | |
Post #AoJBqbm3v1R2V0cAC0 by [email protected] | |
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"In July 2024, running a Relay on ATProto already required 1 terabyte of s… | |
Post #AoJSJ0ybPRQE2O2zce by [email protected] | |
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@cwebber This is so helpful. I've found bluesky's claims of decentraliz… | |
Post #AoJmQ5yJEXmgdlZ1EW by [email protected] | |
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The Bluesky approach to the "shared heap" is that *everything* goes i… | |
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You can imagine the physical world version of "message passing" alrea… | |
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That's exactly why running a Relay or AppView is expensive: you're buil… | |
Post #AoJmQ6N7kHdLsjApua by [email protected] | |
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Look, I know that I've been hitting this nail on the head for a while but: … | |
Post #AoJmQ6WhAhI2MPeTpY by [email protected] | |
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Now as I have said, this is a *design decision*. And remember: most users of Bl… | |
Post #AoJmQ6fCf45ymndH5k by [email protected] | |
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If what your *goal* is to get off Twitter, then Bluesky has solved it. They sol… | |
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"Oh Christine you're being sensitive"Maybe, but there are real co… | |
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Users, clearly, think a lot more of Bluesky is decentralized than it is, and re… | |
Post #AoJmQ74N9UEE2rPNK4 by [email protected] | |
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Blocking first. Bluesky's decision to have *everything* public means that i… | |
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It is ONE thing to be able to block JK Rowling and for you to see that JK Rowli… | |
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Now to be completely fair this is something that Bluesky's devs are interes… | |
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Yes, I may sometimes seem silly over here, SICP-hugging fangirl, come on we'… | |
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You know what, we'll come back to "bidirectional Conway's Law"… | |
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Now to be completely fair Bluesky is clear about this *in their blogpost announ… | |
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The thing that is telling to me about DMs is that we *have* federated direct me… | |
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The point is that I have *seen in the wild* people saying "Oh yeah Bluesky… | |
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But to Bluesky's credit, Twitter's DMs aren't decentralized either!… | |
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On that note, again, I am not reading the replies right now because I am (a) af… | |
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I said we are about halfway through and criminy we're halfway through the a… | |
Post #AoJmQ8ZFaAWQgurY5g by [email protected] | |
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And so, it is TEA TIMEGo get yourself a hot beverage. Put honey or agave in it,… | |
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Okay, I am back and I am back with tea! I made "black tea with ginger"… | |
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I am also sad about the US House of Representatives being shitty to trans peopl… | |
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A lot of data modeling I did in that time was in the W3C Verifiable Credentials… | |
Post #AoJmQ96DbatSLAHsTg by [email protected] | |
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Back in 2017 I wrote a whitepaper: "ActivityPub: from decentralized to dis… | |
Post #AoJmQ9Huu6FcvRlDiC by [email protected] | |
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In that sense, I am really glad Bluesky is taking on decentralized identity, as… | |
Post #AoJmQ9QQOT3ZLpk0yO by [email protected] | |
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Before we get there, let's talk about what the DID spec was and what DIDs a… | |
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The other requirement you would expect, based on the name, is that Decentralize… | |
Post #AoJmQ9hnLsx2Dhrt32 by [email protected] | |
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The reason actually stems from the first centralized DID method that Bluesky su… | |
Post #AoJmQ9qIqFkye5qgJE by [email protected] | |
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"Now wait Christine, didn't you say earlier that the web is decentrali… | |
Post #AoJmQ9ySLwHL3NfC1A by [email protected] | |
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Everyone in the DID standards space KNEW that did:web was centralized, so why o… | |
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I was kind of exiting that particular area of standards when this happened but … | |
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Confusion, on its own, is one thing. But the problem is when confusion turns in… | |
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And of course once the door was open to did:web, the door was open to everythin… | |
Post #AoJmQAV4OgMmgWvEqu by [email protected] | |
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But it's ONLY EXPERTS IN DIDs WHO UNDERSTOOD THISMost users hear "Dece… | |
Post #AoJmQAdDuMt95ojkYq by [email protected] | |
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So did:web is not only useless, it misleads people about the problem domain ent… | |
Post #AoJmQAl1RN7vU0NyiW by [email protected] | |
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For that matter, where did the term did:plc come from? Early versions of "… | |
Post #AoJmQAtWvjvruOMlyi by [email protected] | |
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did:plc is centralized, and that bothers me because once again, users think som… | |
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If you read the documentation of did:plc, they're actually quite upfront ab… | |
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(aside: wow my eyes are getting tired from staring at my monitor while I recap … | |
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Aside from being irritated about the name misleading, I don't mind the cent… | |
Post #AoJmQBQUxAItYdn6Mi by [email protected] | |
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In theory, once a DID is registered with Bluesky, it cannot be altered by Blues… | |
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This is pretty good tbh, it lowers the stakes a lot to have certificate chainsI… | |
Post #AoJmQBiZrwlWSiFXXs by [email protected] | |
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There are some strange, strange things about did:plc that heightens the central… | |
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The first strange thing to me is that did:plc uses sha256 and, AFAICT, not sha2… | |
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The next concerning thing is that did:plc truncates the hash to just *15 bytes*… | |
Post #AoJmQC9WFmJfoGr3XU by [email protected] | |
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This is public information, I don't need to file a CVE to tell you about th… | |
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DIDs weren't meant to be seen by the user; cryptographic identifiers in gen… | |
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At any rate, I continue to not understand it, maybe it's fine, but it did p… | |
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One way in which the truncation shows up in that blogpost which I thought was c… | |
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There's another thing about that blogpost that caught my attention. I will … | |
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> This is an eyebrow-raising decision on its own; apparently the cloud HSM p… | |
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Anyway that's the quote and presumably this must be changed. I haven't … | |
Post #AoJmQDJpuuABQYgoG8 by [email protected] | |
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At any rate, that decision was used to create a kinda confused deputy-ish attac… | |
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At any rate, one way or another, you can presumably use did:plc to move yoursel… | |
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Bluesky has identified, I'd say correctly even, that key management for use… | |
Post #AoJmQDkmIjiKm7IKFk by [email protected] | |
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I am, once again, kinda sympathetic and kinda unsettled simultaneously.- Sympat… | |
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The big promise here, the "credible exit" side of things is that for … | |
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Regardless, Bluesky has this "your domain is your id!" thing, and tha… | |
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tl;dr on that UX part:- users only know domains, they don't know the DIDs- … | |
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in addition to this long-ass thread there is a long-ass article and if you care… | |
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It is time for TEA BREAK 2: THE REHEATENINGI will also go to the bathroomTMI? I… | |
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I have returned, with teaI am still not reading notifications. Well, I have see… | |
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"Where are we going with this Christine?"Well you could have just rea… | |
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Yes, I changed the order of the remaining sections, not from the blogpost but f… | |
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Before we get into the next section, earlier I left an easter egg, which you co… | |
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Alright you've heard enough critiques of Bluesky for a bit and I SAID I was… | |
Post #AoJmQFFIkjixP4aDT6 by [email protected] | |
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I have actually critiqued ActivityPub and the fediverse a lot! I have kind of n… | |
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Actually something that is funny about ActivityPub is that there's "Ac… | |
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One thing we have already discussed so, before I will say anything else, I will… | |
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Content addressing is important. It should not matter where content "lives… | |
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Actually with this and several other things I am going to bring up, I actually … | |
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This isn't the only time I left a critique of ActivityPub-as-Deployed as op… | |
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ActivityPub left giant holes in the spec around two things which sound the same… | |
Post #AoJmQGLieMS4pGar6u by [email protected] | |
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Anyway, if you know *anything* about me, you know I am a big fan of capability … | |
Post #AoJmQGUa7PXbGkjvvM by [email protected] | |
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The other time I wrote about ActivityPub + ocaps was in a proposal to, yes, Twi… | |
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Now I want to be clear here that I *don't* think that proposal was necessar… | |
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The reason I bring up the proposal here is that I think it has all the right an… | |
Post #AoJmQGy0M14ok0VQmm by [email protected] | |
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Here is your recipe for making the "Correct Fediverse IMO (TM)":- Int… | |
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(cotd ...)- Better anti-spam / anti-harassment using OCapPub ideas- Improved pr… | |
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Spec-wise in ActivityPub, I think it's possible. The ecosystem, as deployed… | |
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The ocap stuff, I tried getting fediverse implementers excited about this and t… | |
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For this reason, @spritely's tech looks like it's very focused on compu… | |
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Let's leave the ocap stuff to the side for now, then. Let's focus on wh… | |
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For this reason @blaine says of both ActivityPub done right and Bluesky done ri… | |
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Of course, adapting an existing system as deployed isn't easy.I will say th… | |
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To the end of the fediverse, perhaps I sound bitter, "they didn't adop… | |
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The fediverse and Bluesky, at great effort, could learn a lot from each other i… | |
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When I laid out the ideas of OCapPub to various fediverse developers, the respo… | |
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Conway's Law says that a technical architecture reflects the social structu… | |
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It's for that reason that @spritely, while aiming for a *socially collabora… | |
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Remember when I said that IMO @jay.bsky.team is the right person to lead Bluesk… | |
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So too does the social structure flow from the tech. It does on Bluesky, and it… | |
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The vision laid out for the fediverse, both independently in my writings and ev… | |
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And perhaps this is all my *massive* Cassandra complex speaking. I won't de… | |
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Let's take another tea break. (And another bathroom break. This teacup is m… | |
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Hello, I am back again. Did you miss me? I still am not reading notifications.H… | |
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Before we go any further, earlier I mentioned the US House of Representatives, … | |
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What I am trying to say is I don't have many heroes but @evangreer is absol… | |
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Also you have reached it: the third secret eggYou have now collected the egg tr… | |
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It's time, we have reached the second to last section: "Preparing for … | |
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Occasionally an org creates a phrase like this, and back in the day Google had … | |
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It was *at least* good insofar as the moment Google retired the phrase as never… | |
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As opposed to Google's "Don't be evil", a commandment for the… | |
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Making design decisions in the present which guard against the future is one of… | |
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To this end, Bluesky's goals of "credible exit" are actually very… | |
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And there *will* be a lot of pressure: Bluesky has taken VC money as investment… | |
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This happens despite the very best people with the very best intentions. Talk t… | |
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Before we continue further, I have done about every job imaginable in a FOSS pr… | |
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The structure of an organization does matter. There's a reason that @sprite… | |
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A Public Benefit Corporation has a mission for the public good, but can take in… | |
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Again, this is all tuned to "What is Bluesky trying to build?"Bluesky… | |
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That Bluesky is providing needs for many users who are looking for refuge from … | |
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There will be a lot of pressure soon from investors: run ads, make premium acco… | |
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@cwebber Why give them soooooo much space?Why talk soooo much about bluesky?Did… | |
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@serapath I think to counter or criticize @cwebber you've to come forward w… | |
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What I will *not* accept is the goalposts being moved on decentralization and f… | |
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Bluesky will face every pressure to be enshittified. Bluesky has even, correctl… | |
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And here it is. We have reached the final part.I am not even going to take a te… | |
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I laid out definitions of "decentralization" and "federation&quo… | |
Post #AoJoE2nfOqUZEky1nU by [email protected] | |
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I laid out a strong critique, but let me end on a call to empathy.Bluesky is bu… | |
Post #AoJoE2vSvqjLcwcFxA by [email protected] | |
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The infrastructure we build reflects our social dynamics, and our social dynami… | |
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@cwebber many details I don't know and would take me long time to understan… | |
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@cwebber 🥚🥚🥚 | |
Post #AoKBAspyHajsPmVUq8 by [email protected] | |
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In fact we also have an idea of the rate of growth. Approximately 4 months prio… | |
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Just focusing on storage, in July @bnewbold.net estimated the amount of storage… | |
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I tried estimating how much this would cost; as a lazy approximation I dumped a… | |
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However @bnewbold pointed out, correctly!, that there were cheaper options avai… | |
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In fact @bnewbold and alice had gotten the server down to just close to $200/mo… | |
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Even if we look at the dedicated hosting provider that @bnewbold provided in Ju… | |
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But worse, we have reached the limits of what is possible to do with a dedicate… | |
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I have spent a lot of time focusing on the cost of storage, but storage is only… | |
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Let's take a break, the analysis of server costs is boring and I don't … | |
Post #AoKBAts8R241cmWjqq by [email protected] | |
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Remember that the idea of "fully self-hosting" on Bluesky/ATProto at … | |
Post #AoKBAtyA4cstvTLYFE by [email protected] | |
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As said, tens of thousands of people are self-hosting *today*. Fediverse softwa… | |
Post #AoKBAu5FeGYWHSfDIO by [email protected] | |
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Now you're hitting the point in this thread where some of you may be thinki… | |
Post #AoKBAuCLDuE8dRysLY by [email protected] | |
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The fediverse has a lot of flaws. Oh trust me, we're gonna get to that.But … | |
Post #AoKBAuKUjakV2jnO3U by [email protected] | |
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Now look, we're about 1/3 of the way done here, there's a lot more to s… | |
Post #AoKBAuRaJEQ7Oj736e by [email protected] | |
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But now, I will break for lunch. Enjoy your intermission because I will be back… | |
Post #AoKBAuYfss5jkiQi9o by [email protected] | |
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Okay I am back from lunch, time to resume my analysis thread for "How dece… | |
Post #AoKBAugpOYc6A0FDrk by [email protected] | |
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And before we make it any further can I say that I watched a nice medley of Dav… | |
Post #AoKBAur6mKpwft3QtE by [email protected] | |
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But where was I? Oh yes. We had talked about why PDS'es aren't enough (… | |
Post #AoKBAuxqNIDz0mCoO8 by [email protected] | |
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Now you may be saying, "Christine, this is really unfair, because you'… | |
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ATProto is not designed for the Relay and AppViews to only hold part of the net… | |
Post #AoKBAvBfXtHdhefqwC by [email protected] | |
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Remember the directive that Bluesky was given: develop a decentralized protocol… | |
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This informs some other things:- Bluesky's gotta scale BIG and do so FAST (… | |
Post #AoKBAvPqhAcsPdJB2W by [email protected] | |
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But here's the other thing. People have trouble with the fediverse! All tho… | |
Post #AoKBAvWaI80ukWSYXQ by [email protected] | |
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Actually all these critiques of the fediverse are TRUE, these are known challen… | |
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The thing you often get seen thrown around is "it's amazing, I had no … | |
Post #AoKBAvkPSj4ZROvb5U by [email protected] | |
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Now yes, they are using decentralized techniques. Remember when I said content-… | |
Post #AoKBAvrV2MkBnOFG8e by [email protected] | |
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In every meaningful way from a power dynamics perspective *EXCEPT* the category… | |
Post #AoKBAvyEdK8E8HOddY by [email protected] | |
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Yes, you can host your own PDS. You can also host your own blog. But try hostin… | |
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We're getting to the point where we get to why I'm so damn frustrated a… | |
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Here's an example of this problem in actionfry69: "The working search … | |
Post #AoKBAwI5RW0l7qgUa0 by [email protected] | |
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So hold on, let me set some terms for "decentralization" and "fe… | |
Post #AoKBAwPB19gNTq09dA by [email protected] | |
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Okay how about "federation" now because this is a *technical term* th… | |
Post #AoKBAwVYdQmpnczFZo by [email protected] | |
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Here's my definition of federation:> Federation: a technical approach to… | |
Post #AoKBAwd0Bkk2AiTCBE by [email protected] | |
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Now historically, federation has been achieved on the fediverse via "messa… | |
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Maybe there is another way to achieve federation, but it's about the power … | |
Post #AoKBAwrXJiMqtnGnpo by [email protected] | |
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ActivityPub, as it turns out, follows the actor model of computation. Okay, man… | |
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@cwebber I'd like to hear more about AP follows the (Hewitt) Actor Model of… | |
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@steve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actor_model#Fundamental_concepts fundament… | |
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@cwebber Thanks for the response. Both the original paper and Wikipedia state: … | |
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@cwebber Found it! | |
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@cwebber The payment for impartiality is universal dislike.Keep up the Good Wor… | |
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@teajaygrey @cwebber people post a lot of shit. I'm pretty sure my instance… | |
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/me tries to imagine DNS requiring everyone who operates a DNS server, or UUCP/… | |
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@cwebber Bravo - thank you for writing this. |