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Post #An4B0jnjruhdAGkbOC by [email protected] |
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I'm amazed that there has been zero coverage of this:EU's new Product L… |
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Post #An4BmyYEKeUsoJUwyG by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk I found @bert_hubert 's summary showing it's all quite reasonab… |
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Post #An4C9jsv1kRBz51tc8 by [email protected] |
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@derickr @bert_hubert CRA is something entirely different (but also very releva… |
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Post #An4CLd5q6VgYOZk7Zg by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @bert_hubert Apologies. I conflated the two!I'll wait for a summary… |
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Post #An4CUmS6fzOm1pWPVA by [email protected] |
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@derickr @bert_hubert It's not legalese, it's actually very clear and r… |
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Post #An4DQxYBZWTfFD6hFo by [email protected] |
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And yes, I'm they guy who has been calling for product liability on softwar… |
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Post #An4DRIjEpcnQvZRJtg by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk What were you expecting, a blanket opt-out of liability for Red Hat bec… |
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Post #An4DkRIhBZrL0z9Np2 by [email protected] |
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@bert_hubert @maarten I expect it will be uphill to argue that millions or even… |
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Post #An4DmvjyytBs0D6Ljc by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @bert_hubert Oh right.I think it boils down with what they mean with &q… |
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Post #An4DrqCX0KesGmnRRI by [email protected] |
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@mar It's GREAT!I think it is high time Microsoft's "Even if our s… |
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Post #An4E1Oxp7uFAgtTZLM by [email protected] |
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@derickr @bert_hubert Yes, and I guess that will depend on which EU country you… |
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Post #An4EK38QVhbGUXKMMa by [email protected] |
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@bert_hubert @maarten What surprises me is that there has been virtually /no/ c… |
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Post #An4EwWk8sLtVKAJels by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @bert_hubert I'm in an ex-EU country (UK), but usually these direct… |
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Post #An4GUZl6Gq18TbZ0We by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk do you think it will have the impact you've been hoping for? |
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Post #An4GlCviOu6ub5SXi4 by [email protected] |
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@derickr @bert_hubert It will spill over, and I would be very surprised if USA … |
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Post #An4HKXQGCXnsI0arMu by [email protected] |
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@joelving Time will tell.It cannot possibly make things and worse, and it will … |
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Post #An4Hz259d3uexh1xaK by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk fingers crossed. 🤞 |
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Post #An4KbhKQvLStnWk436 by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk Do you know of an explanation for the phrase "liability without fa… |
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Post #An4KbhTeN4q0G73QPo by [email protected] |
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@adamshostack "no fault liability", as I understand it, in EU means t… |
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Post #An4LW1CMEftHdhovGy by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk Yes. As you say, surprising that it’s not getting more attention |
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Post #An4LdCe44hStAVCpk0 by [email protected] |
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@adamshostack It will, if nothing else in a bit over two years from now when th… |
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Post #An4MVJ9E79HOyPa4xs by [email protected] |
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@alyx Good on you if you don't feel the need to.I'm cool about it mysel… |
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Post #An4NEDl4zzlLI0hcTw by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk Did I get this right? Any commercial entity / company / freelancer who … |
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Post #An4P3wt14cgxyTe1HE by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk good article for the most part, though I have a quibble with the commen… |
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Post #An4PjnAPbHurzbjXWq by [email protected] |
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@chris @bsdphk If you (company) supply a patch to FOSS but don't sell the s… |
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Post #An4Pmxdb7vipKstcES by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk Also para 15: "Where free and open-source software supplied outsid… |
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Post #An4PmxnWX1f5pfXXhg by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk Maybe I'm suffering from confirmation bias, but I take this to mean… |
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Post #An4Pmxuy5LcICl1UJ6 by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk Which is pretty much how things should work in a sane world. |
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Post #An4Pux8uqntU7MM7Gq by [email protected] |
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@chris The crucial criteria is "outside commercial activity"If you ma… |
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Post #An4VbCvx1wT91eG9DM by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk We will see what the consequences are. How would it be, if a corp pays … |
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Post #An4d6TKoni9IY5kJns by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk not perfect but a fantastic start! |
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Post #An4dNVLMaM2dha7fGK by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk .... excuse me, your software exhibits the obvious defect of causing ma… |
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Post #An4fy3cunaZeMWtEa8 by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @sassdawe I love that we've reached the point where "guy in Ne… |
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Post #An4iIlKMEKjdb7D6HY by [email protected] |
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@spz @chris @bsdphk In this context, what does it mean to "sell the softwa… |
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Post #An4iIlUzanF486BarI by [email protected] |
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@vriesk @chris @bsdphk first, I'm not a lawyer, and you do have "befor… |
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Post #An4iIleD2WcAagUxE0 by [email protected] |
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@spz @chris @bsdphk That sounds reasonable and I hope this directive works that… |
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Post #An4iIlqGJiFvC48a0m by [email protected] |
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@vriesk @spz @bsdphk I read the directive as: A company that publishes the sour… |
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Post #An4iYxfK7o46Usk1Ls by [email protected] |
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@vriesk @spz @bsdphk I agree that liability for software is necessary, but I do… |
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Post #An4kGzx15aNEHTZyd6 by [email protected] |
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@chris @vriesk @bsdphk where do you get the impression from that that "clo… |
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Post #An4kH07eS2seoSYTCq by [email protected] |
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@spz @vriesk @bsdphk It‘s a lot easier for other people to find a bug in OSS … |
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Post #An4kH0GVv5yBFwhY1I by [email protected] |
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@spz @vriesk @bsdphk At least this will safe #WindowsEmbedded from obscurity, t… |
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Post #An4kdjyWeVNVOT85js by [email protected] |
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@chris @vriesk @bsdphk you also have to show the damage it did to you to get co… |
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Post #An4kdk9A0xsvvS6aJc by [email protected] |
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@spz @vriesk @bsdphk You don’t have to prove the damage, you have to find a p… |
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Post #An4l0xUWZ90DyQAStk by [email protected] |
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@chris @vriesk @bsdphk we'll have to wait and see it play out.I think it co… |
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Post #An4l0xd23VoAOo9G9w by [email protected] |
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@spz @vriesk @bsdphk Yes. “I’d like to have a machine with OpenOffice Calc,… |
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Post #An4lWGUzwhgptyJkcC by [email protected] |
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@spz @vriesk @bsdphk “We’re $City and would like to get rid of Microsoft. W… |
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Post #An4o3PXLZ1glOfLhRY by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @chris The exception seems somewhat contradictorily described: point 14… |
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Post #An4oRNDBrOWL8TLaKm by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @adamshostack Do you know whether the extent of liability is limited to… |
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Post #An4qFXK2dxwivU2FTE by [email protected] |
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@chris @spz @vriesk This regulation is for EU, not for USA.Lookup "The Ame… |
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Post #An4qM5Lr2KdOCg0QfA by [email protected] |
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@bert_hubert @bsdphk @maarten I make around $1200 a year from GitHub sponsorshi… |
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Post #An4qM5W8Q6rEiYodge by [email protected] |
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@bert_hubert @bsdphk @maarten Also I'm in the US, do I need to start worryi… |
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Post #An4qM5ezt9wlA2xiV6 by [email protected] |
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@rain @bert_hubert @bsdphk @maarten Ah, only noticed this reply after replying … |
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Post #An4qM5rP91s5mWlcq8 by [email protected] |
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@mihailim @rain @bert_hubert @bsdphk @maarten Citizenship is not the sole facto… |
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Post #An4qhxhi9NpSr8f1zU by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk WowSection 15 has a taste of supply chain.Section 16 - supply chain of … |
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Post #An4r9t6iplMihyfwnY by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @spz @vriesk Smaller companies will not be able to afford “winning in… |
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Post #An4rQpGyLPSLjpXxYG by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @spz @vriesk Say I buy a FreeBSD DVD and any software on this DVD eats … |
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Post #An5dqrSrc5mRrgaaqu by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk @bert_hubert For people new to the topic, I recommend watching https://… |
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Post #An5jX4ZHmh54REXZ68 by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk Jup the german gouverment just missed a chance to strengthen the OS sec… |
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Post #An5sdY2Q1nzPA8KUoC by [email protected] |
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@bsdphk I like this part on page 6 (7 in PDF): "A developer or producer of… |
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Post #An8nkP55oMRv76uSjg by [email protected] |
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@nf3xn @bsdphk it doesn’t work like that. If this was allowed for commercial … |
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Post #An8nkPFNC8flcziflA by [email protected] |
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@aurorus @bsdphk Whether it works like that has yet to be tested. This is proba… |
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Post #An8nkPNAj8uY1BMtuq by [email protected] |
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@nf3xn @aurorus Have you actually read the directive ?They've got a pretty … |
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Post #An9YOe1MHSfqvJI08G by [email protected] |
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@nf3xn @aurorus (A smoke detector may be a bad example, because I think there i… |
