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Play Integrity API has no minimum security patch level and nearly all these app… | |
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Hardware-based attestation can be used for security purposes such as verifying … | |
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Play Integrity API is claimed to be based on devices complying with the Compati… | |
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Essentially every non-Pixel device has important CTS failures not caused by CTS… | |
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Since Play Integrity doesn't even have a minimum security patch level, it p… | |
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The reality is that the Play Integrity API permits devices from companies partn… | |
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It does not matter if these devices have years of missing security patches. It … | |
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Google can either permit GrapheneOS in the Play Integrity API in the near futur… | |
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We're not going to give Google veto power over what we're allowed to do… | |
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Google's behavior in the mobile space is highly anti-competitive. Google sh… | |
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Google should also be forbidden from participating in blocking using alternate … | |
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Google is forbidding people from using a growing number of apps and services on… | |
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We've put a lot of effort into collaborating with Google to improve privacy… | |
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As with how they handle giving out partner access, the Play Integrity API serve… | |
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After our security partner access was revoked, we stopped most of our work on i… | |
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This year, we reported multiple serious vulnerabilities to Android used by wide… | |
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Authy's response about their usage of the Play Integrity API shows their se… | |
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If Authy insists on using it, they should use the standard Android hardware att… | |
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@GrapheneOS AND NOW YOU KNOW WHY I THINK RELYING SOLELY ON #GooglePixel DEVICES… | |
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@GrapheneOS Uh oh. Authy still seems to be working on GrapheneOS for me right n… | |
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@00Aaron @GrapheneOS They might be reverting it due to backlash, or more likely… | |
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@kkarhan @GrapheneOS Fairphone being Google certified is a mistake and further … | |
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@GrapheneOS I'd love to use an alternative OS, but it sometimes is even con… | |
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@CriticalSilence @GrapheneOS GrapheneOS has a web installer that's not only… | |
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@kkarhan That's completely wrong, they exactly these same restrictions and … | |
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@kkarhanFairphone is a clear example of the anti-competitive and unfair approac… | |
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@GrapheneOS Well, you've to ask #Google and #Fiarphone that and consider in… | |
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@GrapheneOS I know, we're all feeling like this! | |
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@kkarhan I'll let GrapheneOS, make their own statement, but here are my tho… | |
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@Zoarial94 I don't deny that when @GrapheneOS started out, #GooglePixel wer… | |
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@matchboxbananasynergy @kkarhan @GrapheneOS Its also a little sad that Authy is… | |
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@GrapheneOS OFC #Google does, because they are a #GAFAM and #AllGafamsAreBad / … | |
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@GrapheneOS I guess the problem is that like with any #PublicCorporation, they … | |
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@GrapheneOS OFC #Google does #Android solely for their #Business.Like did you e… | |
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@GrapheneOS I guess you gotta have to go like #grsecurity and maintain your own… | |
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@GrapheneOS but they won't because integrating #Govware #Backdoors that are… | |
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@GrapheneOS Everytime somethibg requires "client-side security" aka. … | |
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@tasket @matchboxbananasynergy @GrapheneOS TBH, I don't deny any of these i… | |
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@matchboxbananasynergy @GrapheneOS once you realize all #Quallcomm #SoC's a… | |
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@kkarhan Yes, I appreciate the whole Android ecosystem debate. Like most other… | |
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@kkarhan @matchboxbananasynergy There's no evidence of Qualcomm having any … | |
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@kkarhan @matchboxbananasynergy Using Snapdragon is not a reason for us to avoi… | |
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@GrapheneOS @matchboxbananasynergy And I guess noone has even dared to make a #… | |
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@tasket It's called having a "#NuancedOpinion".OFC it's not t… | |
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@00Aaron @matchboxbananasynergy Authy currently continues to work if you are al… | |
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@GrapheneOS @kkarhan play integrity api is security theater pure and simpleit�… | |
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@uint8_t @GrapheneOS exactly that...Even "manufactured #eWaste" that … | |
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@GrapheneOS Is this in the EU or are US regulators also interested in this mono… | |
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@lucasmz @uint8_t @GrapheneOS I've yet to see anyone except #GrapheneOS and… | |
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@GrapheneOS I think what he's saying is that you are relying on Google, whi… | |
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@Hyolobrika @GrapheneOS EXACTLY THAT!I get why but the nonchalant attitude remi… | |
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@Hyolobrika @kkarhan We'd rather discontinue the project than support insec… | |
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@GrapheneOS @kkarhan >GrapheneOS does not exist to make insecure devices a b… | |
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@Hyolobrika my guess is that @GrapheneOS is hell-bent on perfection or not both… | |
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@Hyolobrika @kkarhan Play Integrity API is not a new move on their part. What&#… | |
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@Hyolobrika @kkarhan It's not what we're trying to do. A huge portion o… | |
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@GrapheneOS @Hyolobrika I mean those are valid arguments as with #Android devic… | |
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@Hyolobrika @kkarhan It would also encourage people to buy those devices, only … | |
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@GrapheneOS @Hyolobrika I mean, it's understandable for cheap devices and I… | |
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@Hyolobrika @kkarhan We have seen that providing extended support encourages pe… | |
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@GrapheneOS @Hyolobrika yes, but that's a general problem with #Android and… | |
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@kkarhan @Hyolobrika We want a reasonable level of security including protectin… | |
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@GrapheneOS @Hyolobrika yes, and I am not angry at you bot all the manufacturer… | |
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@kkarhan @Hyolobrika GrapheneOS has over 250k users and that's rapidly grow… | |
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@kkarhan @Hyolobrika Not supporting insecure devices does not mean we're go… | |
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@GrapheneOS @Hyolobrika It's not anconspiracy theory.Cuz if Google were int… | |
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@GrapheneOS @Hyolobrika Then I guess you misunderstood me.Cuz what would happen… | |
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@Hyolobrika @GrapheneOS @kkarhan Even though I disagree with Graphene's app… | |
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@tasket @Hyolobrika @GrapheneOS I mean, we've to define what's "re… | |
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@tasket I mean, don't get @stman started on how everything is fucked beyond… | |
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@kkarhan @stman I think Qubes OS was the first project to promote "reasona… | |
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@tasket @Hyolobrika @kkarhanOur approach does not assume the Linux kernel is se… | |
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@GrapheneOS Should offering a more limited but more fundamentally secure OS (ex… | |
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@kkarhan stop yelling at @GrapheneOS and instead spend that energy trying to co… | |
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@tasket yes that is a problem, and whilst we can say that unlike with #Apple… | |
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@kkarhan You do not understand this. None of what we use on Pixels is at all Pi… | |
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@kkarhan How exactly do you propose that a bootstrapped OS support the Uber Dri… | |
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@GrapheneOS I think #Apps should not be allowed to request anything to run but … | |
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@GrapheneOS granted, proper isolation and layering is key, tho if you don't… | |
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It's very unfortunate when new apps adopt the Play Integrity API and stop w… | |
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@kkarhanAnd apps should not be allowed to restrict anything the user wants. Bac… | |
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@thomas @GrapheneOS nodds in agreementThe users should have the option to do th… | |
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@tasket @kkarhan @stman > GrapheneOS doesn't seem to be interested in… | |
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@krutonium @tasket OFC, I don't expect @GrapheneOS to churn out a device in… | |
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@tasket @kkarhan @stman > To me it's still flabberghasting me that #Grap… | |
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@kkarhan @krutonium @tasket Fairphone and Shift do not prioritize security or p… | |
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@kkarhan @krutonium @tasket We've repeatedly tried to work with OEMs and ha… | |
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@GrapheneOS @krutonium @tasket Again, if I had the necessary funding I would… | |
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@kkarhan @tasket @stman > To me it's still flabberghasting me that #Grap… | |
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@icedquinn @tasket even then I'm shure they didn't even come close to… | |
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@icedquinn @tasket @kkarhan @stman HTC was one of the companies we tried to wor… | |
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@GrapheneOS @icedquinn @tasket that sounds really awful!Maybe I can get some co… | |
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@tasket @kkarhan @stman QubesOS is built on standard non-hardened desktop opera… | |
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@GrapheneOS QubesOS is built on standard non-hardened desktop operating systems… | |
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@tasket @kkarhan @stman QubesOS is laser focused on containment of separate gro… | |
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@tasket @kkarhan @stman QubesOS does not address the need for the operating sys… | |
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@tasket @kkarhan @stman We'd also seriously contest whether trusting the hu… | |
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@stman @GrapheneOS @mikesixgolf @tasket yeah, the good ol' days of the &quo… | |
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@kkarhan @stman @GrapheneOS @mikesixgolf @tasket I might not be here to see tha… |