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1/ Meta: I have divorced my evaluation of economics from politics in my mind. T… |
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2/ Meta: We all model things in practice, and we often use that model to guide… |
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3/ Meta: The only way to meaningfully study anything is to understand what kind… |
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4/ Meta: for this discussion the distinction between complicated and complex is… |
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5/ Meta: if you misunderstand the nature of the problem/system/field then you w… |
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6/ Meta: so if you want to see where I got this aha-moment, that the problem of… |
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@Patricia Just a short note to say I've loved you recent threads. Made my t… |
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@GraziosiSergio I’m so glad! Thanks for letting me know 💜 |
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@Patricia I can't buy the separation of economics and politics. Sure, econo… |
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@jorgen I agree with you and you are missing my point, at the same time 😂Let… |
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@jorgen So politics is the king and economics is the astrologist. And yes, it w… |
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@jorgen did that make more sense? |
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7/ Meta: tried an analogy.https://social.vivaldi.net/@Patricia/1127336882621768… |
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@Patricia I'm not entirely sure who is the politician and who is the econom… |
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@jorgen I’m saying that both austerity and spending spree and all of the othe… |
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@jorgen the power of politics is real, the king is real, but that power doesn�… |
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@Patricia what I think I'm trying to say that politics is nothing without a… |
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@jorgen ah, I’m not talking about “the economy” (well I am sort of, it’… |
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@jorgen hey, how about “the universe” and “physics” |
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@jorgen so I’m not saying that the universe doesn’t exist, I’m saying tha… |
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@jorgen @Patricia Hmmm .... you got me into a train-of-thoughts .... So here… |
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@Patricia I agree. Economy should serve politics, not the other way around (tha… |
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@jorgen sure, and in my personal ideology, I’m with you, but for this particu… |
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@dazo @jorgen I’m not saying divorce politics and “the economy”, I’m sa… |
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@dazo @jorgen herehttps://social.vivaldi.net/@Patricia/112733762675718619 |
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@Patricia kind of like Deepak Chopra then! 😅 He uses physicist jargon to des… |
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@jorgen historically physics was governed by myth and superstition, most scienc… |
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@Patricia @jorgen But how can economics "grow out of it"?There are a … |
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@dazo @Patricia I agree - I also don't think economics can grow out of it. … |
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@jorgen @Patricia Actually, in regards to metrology ... with the climate change… |
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@dazo @Patricia also, I'm not using the word theory, I'm just citing. F… |
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@Patricia oooh, I see your point. Never really thought about it that way. Yeah,… |
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@jorgen exactly, and what I am arguing (logically) is that the reason we are at… |
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@Patricia hehe, this discussion made me think about engineering, and the differ… |
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@jorgen I have thought about this many times and I think two basic features of … |
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@jorgen If you want to look at evidence that we have at least unconsciously bec… |
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@Patricia @jorgen there is also already psychology, which is a science, that th… |
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@mrsbeanbag @jorgen unfortunately, I am not sure I would say that psychology is… |
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@mrsbeanbag @jorgen maybe that is changing as our knowledge of the brain, neuro… |
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@Patricia @jorgen I hate the comparisons with other engineering disciplines tha… |
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@davidvedvick @jorgen oh definitely, all sorts of engineers tell me all the tim… |
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@davidvedvick @Patricia in this business, we package the prototype and sell it … |
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@jorgen @davidvedvick yeah… we have a few things we could do better 😰 |
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@Patricia @jorgen they do experiments though, which is something |
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@mrsbeanbag @jorgen a lot of “experiments” throughout the last century have… |
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@veronica @jorgen @Patricia I know this is pure fantasy in any case, but here w… |
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@adriano @veronica @jorgen defining what is “best” is ideology, like someon… |
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@jorgen @Patricia What you *can* do is study how policy affects people and soci… |
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@veronica @jorgen tbh, half the time they just say that the people were wrong b… |
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@Patricia @jorgen Unfortunately, attempts to do empirical economic work have th… |
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@rst @jorgen that is often the result when you believe that you can somehow get… |
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@Patricia It was a pleasure to witness your 'awakening' to some degree … |
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@wackJackle yeah, I’m in one of the stages of grief, or possibly all of them … |
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@wackJackle don’t underestimate the confidence of someone who has a spreadshe… |
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@Patricia There is german word for this: Schreibtischtäter. |
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@wackJackle of course the Germans would have a name for that |
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@adriano @Patricia @jorgen Granted, science as a concept is a philosophical one… |
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@veronica @adriano @jorgen yeah it is a process, because us humans are often ve… |
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@Patricia Well, it was also a bit cynical of me, because it doesn't fit per… |
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@wackJackle oh wow, that’s dark |
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@veronica @adriano @jorgen ROFL, but knowing that you’re wrong is at least a … |
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@Patricia Think about all the people who have perished, or all people living in… |
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@wackJackle yeah, especially “The Shock Doctrine” book really brought that … |
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@Patricia I think this analogy may be a bit too strict. While economics as an i… |
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@audunmb oh I definitely think there is a field there, but by now I would proba… |
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8/ Meta: just remembered that I tried to do a talk on Cynefin a few years ago. … |
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9/ Meta: oh wow, as a “podcast” (just listening not watching) it’s pretty… |
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@dazo @Patricia @jorgen The stock prices are a reflection of what everyone thin… |
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@arne_d_h @dazo @jorgen and with the power of trading bots we can push the acti… |
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@Patricia @arne_d_h And that leads more into the direction of chaos theory, whi… |
