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Post #ATb3UpvabVmEYMq1b6 by [email protected] |
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fun fact:This game I'm trying to reverse engineer defines one thousand, one… |
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Post #ATb8vxSZCyAFVE0zHk by [email protected] |
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@foone i like your funny words magic man |
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Post #ATb8vxYErshXmofW7s by [email protected] |
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@engarneering not remotely a man but I get what you mean! |
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Post #ATcU6zCVMsquHbYtjU by [email protected] |
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on the positive side, I think I've discovered built-in modding capability t… |
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Post #ATcVCgwMGyJZLCIHOS by [email protected] |
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@foone but... why? |
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Post #ATcVCh1JyWHhaacF84 by [email protected] |
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@Nekoplanet they were BIG FANS of C++ and virtual methods |
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Post #ATcVcvxL4CplROGXJ2 by [email protected] |
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I've moved on to ADVANCED reverse engineering techniques. I emailed the com… |
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Post #ATcXj4RQdCldP4OUKG by [email protected] |
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oh sweet lord this code uses TEMPLATES.like C++ reverse engineering isn't b… |
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Post #ATcY1ldYlm82aJz2e0 by [email protected] |
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@foone that explains why there were so many vtables |
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Post #ATcY1lisS0NkqoTHvs by [email protected] |
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@endrift the scary thing is that it doesn't.I haven't found any vtables… |
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Post #ATcYHCJRs9frf4vzf6 by [email protected] |
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vtables, templates, and a compiler that aggressively inlines.this is SO MUCH FUN |
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Post #ATca9lkGS2HV943xJo by [email protected] |
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OH GOODY they have a sentinel value in their vector implementation.is it NULL? … |
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Post #ATcc0D93vKqH8ZERVI by [email protected] |
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This is safer than it sounds: The Wii's virtual addresses are in the 0x8000… |
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Post #ATcdMGqqvN9gxOnUjA by [email protected] |
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I want to ask the developers so many things.like why they're calling getBin… |
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Post #ATcdwVxGFQPSDy4qB6 by [email protected] |
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@foone Is there context to the text file contents? Like, is it localization, su… |
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Post #ATcdwW2DwyNaTMOnui by [email protected] |
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@AT1ST it's puzzles to be used in the game. not localized in this version. |
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Post #ATce3Umb0I9wcHPwAa by [email protected] |
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I wonder if there's a way to get a zlib chunk to compress into a specific s… |
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Post #ATcg2ma9Xa8ZRGNw1o by [email protected] |
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turns out to be a non-issue. I modified the data to have more redundancy (overw… |
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Post #ATcgAutOWizrWtGPzc by [email protected] |
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it's mocking me. I swapped "classic" for "hawaii" and i… |
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Post #ATchGvjyO27zqqHwH2 by [email protected] |
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boo. patching doesn't seem to work. |
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Post #ATchlJ0OS96mh3S8nI by [email protected] |
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I'll have to understand the BundleManager system a lot better to figure out… |
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Post #ATciRi4BfNFUa8RnCi by [email protected] |
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hot take: if "(int*)(this + 0x56990)" ever appears in the decompiled … |
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Post #ATcj1b1zIkXtBdWxBQ by [email protected] |
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ugh. I think I found an ad-hoc CRC function and a bloom filter. aka NOTHING THA… |
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Post #ATcjLkMOKG05ubgNtI by [email protected] |
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and the CRC function matches the one from this CTF challenge.what the heck. did… |
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Post #ATckJzOfY45tvGTRUO by [email protected] |
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I changed one register during boot to enable debugging, and it crashed the game… |
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Post #ATcqPr8PmNbFlD3Gm8 by [email protected] |
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hacking on big-endian code/data after so long on little-endian is weird.why are… |
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Post #ATcqi8vWMr5a9bjz7I by [email protected] |
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wait does this really store chunk sizes as 24-bit integers in actual-size-minus… |
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Post #ATcqnaAOWAE45KI7aS by [email protected] |
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@foone I think we should start making middle-endianness a thing to accommodate … |
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Post #ATcqnaFMDiCCKic5K4 by [email protected] |
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@Siph I agree. I'm tired of the big/little binary. |
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Post #ATcrTZBoXb1DDVyVge by [email protected] |
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I've got the decoded puzzles open in my text editor and IT ASKS TOO MANY QU… |
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Post #ATcseXmQDoNnz7tcps by [email protected] |
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found a clever thing they're doing. They have a virtualized filesystem, whe… |
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Post #ATcsjs2SKPHyGPw5dw by [email protected] |
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why are they doing this?because one of the bundles is statically compiled into … |
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Post #ATctgdDP5JeXNK4lyy by [email protected] |
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wait why is there a method on the App class to parse commandline tokens.this is… |
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Post #ATctltxQGUAQkS77yK by [email protected] |
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@foone huh that's really interestingi HAVE used that format before - it mak… |
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Post #ATctlu35vOhj22leoS by [email protected] |
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@x4nw well, they were probably trying to keep disc load times short, but at mos… |
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Post #ATctlvca4wgTuONVlQ by [email protected] |
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@foone i have Questions |
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Post #ATcvDgDr1aWyDEbqL2 by [email protected] |
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AppWii::tickleDVD? DO NOT TICKLE THE DVD |
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Post #ATcwgLwta1SXgfugQy by [email protected] |
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OH LOOK another case of magical sentinel pointers.they just checked to see if a… |
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Post #ATcyOszmAvL4sJ3kQa by [email protected] |
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@foone 0 is too common, and valid, to be a signal value. |
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Post #ATcyOt6Vlsj7DCD7vU by [email protected] |
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@Sdowney This is a wii game! there's no RAM at 0x0. So NULL is never valid. |
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Post #ATcyTo3BzIIUzE0Hb6 by [email protected] |
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and I'm not even going to touch the virtual machine. it appears to be stack… |
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Post #ATd1nJYFOMcM37WUOe by [email protected] |
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also I did some more spelunking, and the getBinaryData method is literally only… |
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Post #ATd2jjpVqaYcLXSQAS by [email protected] |
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I found where the engine lists all the file types, and they're specified wi… |
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Post #ATd3obNWnReXXMFc9o by [email protected] |
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I kinda wonder if they generated this code out of some non-C++ language with a … |
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Post #ATd3oePPWtwQw49f0a by [email protected] |
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YOU DON'T NEED VIRTUAL FUNCTIONS WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE OBJECT THAT NEVE… |
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Post #ATd4NGVeNY32wrZwfo by [email protected] |
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also while I'm at it, when you call a function called "resolveName&quo… |
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Post #ATd4bJ1doyZoo1EmK8 by [email protected] |
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20 ::mbinary_search functions and no ::nonbinary_search. sad. (hard mode: there… |
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Post #ATd5QMvl3t3Jgapmhk by [email protected] |
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okay yeah they DEFINITELY built this game on top of a cross-platform engine (th… |
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Post #ATd5XqKw83IculAvjM by [email protected] |
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NOW LOOK, TECHNICALL YOU CAN PLUG A MOUSE INTO A WII, YES.BUT WHY WOULD A GAME … |
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Post #ATd5tqriqLzQvR0NCi by [email protected] |
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The same developer did make a game for the PC the year before, but it's GON… |
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Post #ATd6HLMDdpVw9eTHsm by [email protected] |
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But the internet archive helps! Apparently this wasn't even exactly a game,… |
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Post #ATd6TQ1Y7J1U6RYr9U by [email protected] |
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yeah I think wikipedia has the wrong title for this game. It's GeoStorm, no… |
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Post #ATd6TSlLvyqkb50Sp6 by [email protected] |
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mind you if it was an internal training tool, why would it need to come out? |
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Post #ATd70c3qNtgazWSkS0 by [email protected] |
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anyway I just did some checking. So the wii version has bundles that start with… |
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Post #ATd7AgOJ8kpDJgptyq by [email protected] |
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And it's using the same script/VM system. The Wii version is v3.01, xbox360… |
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Post #ATd7LYtTM6EVFWbJ8C by [email protected] |
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oh hey, it turns out one of their next windows games (from 6 years after the wi… |
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Post #ATd7T0pBuJJvu29PbE by [email protected] |
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@foone that movie sucked |
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Post #ATd7T0urZDrEBcnwRM by [email protected] |
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@cinebox completely unrelated! predates the movie by 8 years. |
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Post #ATd7pQgORqCGTGj0ro by [email protected] |
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Nope. It's unreal engine. Also, I accidentally launched it, and it has a br… |
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Post #ATd8DKhMLjY2rQZi7s by [email protected] |
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grabbed another 2009 game for the wii: "Pipeworks bundle v1.03 (big endian… |
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Post #ATd8Sij7ILntj8jaJU by [email protected] |
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Another 2008 game: Pipeworks bundle v1.03 (big endian).let's see. They rele… |
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Post #ATd8ZdaQnulDoQyCps by [email protected] |
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at least there's no references to it in the 2001 Palm OS game demo that was… |
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Post #ATd8r7uRJmrKmOfUWG by [email protected] |
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"Pipeworks Bundle File version 1.18"WHAT?Why is the 2002 GameCube gam… |
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Post #ATd9GokbAkWItBJcqO by [email protected] |
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looks like their distinctive engine isn't in use for their DS game Godzilla… |
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Post #ATd9Mcue6ASjuamjU8 by [email protected] |
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but it is used for the wii games Charm Girls Club: Pajama Party (2009) and Merv… |
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Post #ATd9UcuRzh1MDcVa2i by [email protected] |
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ugh. I'm gonna have to set up a wiki page for this.in addition to the one o… |
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Post #ATd9pl3ctYjvZQsPDc by [email protected] |
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Monopoly (2010) for the PSP:"Pipeworks bundle v1.13 (little endian)"Y… |
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Post #ATdAwTpRRwCm7M0kBU by [email protected] |
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checking Wii U games is harder.Their Wii U port of Wheel of Fortune is "Pi… |
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Post #ATdBAZACPaWwiXR9F2 by [email protected] |
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they made a free-to-play match-three game with a Godzilla license in 2014. Let&… |
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Post #ATdBcD1cJc5uAGbUpM by [email protected] |
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@foone I've tried that with old medical hardware. The most I ever got was s… |
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Post #ATdBcD6vzqLcQl5k7E by [email protected] |
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@steeph I hate that shit. I've got that for old SBCs. They're like &quo… |
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Post #ATdBo675q3O4CfpmBU by [email protected] |
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Boogie for the PS2 (2007): "Pipeworks Bundle File version 1.4" |
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Post #ATdC0OoM98lDfVw5PU by [email protected] |
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Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian, 2009, Wii:"Pipeworks bundl… |
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Post #ATdCKVsjZGCxOCZgrQ by [email protected] |
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Godzilla: Unleashed, 2007, wii:"Pipeworks Bundle File version 1.4"I s… |
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Post #ATdCZCLEV5i786uIca by [email protected] |
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NHRA Drag Racing - Countdown to the Championship, 2007, PSP: "Pipeworks Bu… |
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Post #ATdCZG6qUWZwoeCrke by [email protected] |
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I'm definitely going to need to do more research to figure out which ones o… |
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Post #ATdCmflgP80i9whiHA by [email protected] |
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oh hey it's not just games.uDraw Studio: Instant Artist, 2009, Wii: "P… |
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Post #ATdCtc6SQe7uotjNM8 by [email protected] |
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interestingly, PRINCE OF PERSIA RIVAL SWORDS (2007), wii, seems to be no. Compl… |
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Post #ATdCtergA35VNvq7Em by [email protected] |
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oh, probably because they just handled porting it. Ubisoft made the PSP version. |
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Post #ATdDSzjGa1DEEJkpoO by [email protected] |
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I grabbed the wrong Zumba game for Wii (there's FIVE), but if anyone wants … |
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Post #ATdDu0vaEPJvlZOp3g by [email protected] |
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@foone is this the sketch ditty one |
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Post #ATdDu10BxH0TzrYVF2 by [email protected] |
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@cinebox he worked on a bunch of them! so, "yes". The game I started … |
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Post #ATdE0yS5pmPy7CvN4K by [email protected] |
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Wreck-It Ralph (2012, Wii) seems to be a new engine. Not Pipeworks |
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Post #ATdE7naCdzFCQqyJw8 by [email protected] |
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Godzilla: Save the Earth (2004), for PS2, uses "Pipeworks Bundle File vers… |
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Post #ATdEO9PzEFZamnzTn6 by [email protected] |
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okay now I've got the right Zumba game. Zumba Fitness, 2010, Wii:"Pipe… |
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Post #ATdEiFDJOHmmYJdx1U by [email protected] |
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I found a reference on their 2003 homepage that their Destroy All Monsters game… |
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Post #ATdFLxjhn6ZhvjjaKG by [email protected] |
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I'm going through assorted linkedins. Looking for someone saying "I us… |
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Post #ATdFM0wDt1N1rQc7km by [email protected] |
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I guess I'm gonna call it Pipeworks Core for now. |
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Post #ATdFZEUEpADNe5pLyi by [email protected] |
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oh huh! According to the 2011 version of their website, they helped develop par… |
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Post #ATdG43BWtTjTZSltdA by [email protected] |
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yeah. Nothing. Just "internal" and "custom" and "core&… |
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Post #ATdGMzXmeh6VmSDFJI by [email protected] |
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Spigot. I think it's still called Spigot. Ian Sabine's linked-in said h… |
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Post #ATdGqsVNOFCMdaKzJo by [email protected] |
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for what it's worth, there's no references to Spigot in the executable … |
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Post #ATdI2rY8rrvT6TuSxs by [email protected] |
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WHAT ANIMATIONS!? |
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there is a reference to something called the RockNRoll engine, but I'm pret… |
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Post #ATdIUJbAgteDukPuz2 by [email protected] |
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@foone apparently it was created by Dan Duncalf, founder of pipeworks software … |
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Post #ATdIUJfQR53C7wPJc8 by [email protected] |
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@Nekoplanet good catch! |
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Post #ATdIx7lBmis3b0q8Ya by [email protected] |
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interesting find: the "Colossal Kaiju Combat" games licensed the Spig… |
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Post #ATdIxAjsi2bippFdR2 by [email protected] |
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"Pipeworks bundle v1.30 (little endian)"It's got the .pvd/.pvm fi… |
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Post #ATdIxBX9kq1TIeIzEu by [email protected] |
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THIS IS FUCKING SPIGOT |
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Post #ATdJPZMMlP9XIqnDlo by [email protected] |
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waitthis giant monster fighting game...uses MYSQL!? |
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Post #ATdJPc8ISAgHu5EWky by [email protected] |
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anyway they remembered to strip the debugging info for the Kaiju game, so that&… |
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Post #ATe9efzlZQm9qJkMXg by [email protected] |
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also, side note, the list of games on their wikipedia page is missing a few on … |
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they're also credited with uDraw Studio, but their own list says they made … |
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Post #ATePjm1MC2PVFHwXmy by [email protected] |
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Started building a wiki page listing all the versions and such. https://wiki.fo… |
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hey found another game missing from wikipedia! Plantville, which they made for … |
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I could also go through all these games and make sure their build info is on TC… |
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Post #ATeSLhhIupxikVmIQy by [email protected] |
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here's the really fun part:they clearly were fine with licensing out their … |
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Post #ATeSLiVHuzwdFXADLM by [email protected] |
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brb downloading all Wii, PS2, PS3, PSP, Xbox, Xbox 360, and Windows games. |
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Post #ATeSLjIuwTdxjSNqhU by [email protected] |
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I'm gonna need more floppy disks |
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So they made a few demos (for the xbox) with Microsoft prior to announcing thei… |
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Post #ATeYQEV5UqNfMwbfzU by [email protected] |
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if I see one more place where this code is like "(if x!=0 && x!=0x… |
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Post #ATeYQHTQRTpkaeqtJg by [email protected] |
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interestingly their Wii game "Gremlins: Gizmo" calls itself "GFo… |
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Post #ATeYQIGLVaxv2NjxZI by [email protected] |
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(yes, I had to check) |
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Post #ATefyV8aqUHuUeNADg by [email protected] |
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@foone who does this? |
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Post #ATefyVDYY2G2k2h7xI by [email protected] |
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@kelpana Pipeworks, apparently! |
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Post #ATeizfdfaU2XDM9phI by [email protected] |
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@foone Oh yeah?!*puts sentinel value in the middle of valid address space, and … |
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Post #ATeizfhvKfRVQY9EKO by [email protected] |
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@rotopenguin AHHHHHHHHH |
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Post #ATf78KFItRWgN5Q87E by [email protected] |
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okay so you know how I said there was some debug symbols left in, in one of the… |
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Post #ATf78KJucJDEbNZoIa by [email protected] |
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(there's a possibility this is required for how their scripting engine work… |
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Post #ATf78N7GDnsJH0gFUm by [email protected] |
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oh goody.if a for loop only does like 8 iterations, the compiler unrolls it int… |
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Post #ATf78NuXGbI3jpjbIe by [email protected] |
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why does their implementation of strlwr check every character for being smaller… |
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Post #ATf8lKcXX8sqmWS6iW by [email protected] |
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@foone Have you checked to see what the Nintendo Wii does if you *do* use -1 as… |
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Post #ATf8lKgnHKHoziRVLc by [email protected] |
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@AT1ST nah. I'm already too deep down this one rabbit hole to consider any … |
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Post #ATfswpu89pKisp6Vwu by [email protected] |
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@foone wat.How do you even get that through an optimising compiler? |
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Post #ATfswq09nQ9bBVvKLI by [email protected] |
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@ddr I don't know. Possibly it's just being decompiled incorrectly. I d… |
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Post #ATfw4tBq7p6nFiv2NE by [email protected] |
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@foone if you know some that aren't in https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.p… |
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Post #ATfw4tGRqgnLU14iYa by [email protected] |
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@delroth Will do!Although, haven't ya'll done a comprehensive survey of… |
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Post #ATfwtwrmDSF3QJsieW by [email protected] |
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@foone GC/Wii games don't typically come with ELF files :-) The standard ex… |
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Post #ATfwtwwjv0DBfiCgO8 by [email protected] |
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@delroth oh, okay.The games I've been digging into all have elf files. I wo… |
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Post #ATfyRYTdV9FHa6B92O by [email protected] |
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@foone either that, or dead files that were actually converted to DOL but still… |
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Post #ATfyRYYFE0vpoOKpDk by [email protected] |
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@delroth oh I didn't think about that! I'll have to test to see if the … |
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Post #ATfyazilZtwegQkzL6 by [email protected] |
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@delroth huh, yep. The elf file is completely superflous, the game runs fine wi… |
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Post #ATg6O0gPUP2lXGySqu by [email protected] |
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so I've got a TON of VTables and in theory I could convince Ghidra how they… |
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Post #ATg6W5rO7oVhuOxo1I by [email protected] |
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and I need to figure out some way to document this class tree that's a step… |
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Post #ATg75sjIQBWpbtFAyu by [email protected] |
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maybe I need to look into scripting, instead of pressing the "y" butt… |
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Post #ATg8Wy8mVkaIAIe0zQ by [email protected] |
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well I think I've hung ghidra |
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Post #ATg8eeM1xa0t7EVJj6 by [email protected] |
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@foone save your sanity and use one of the plugins that lets you use Python 3 i… |
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Post #ATg8eeRLdoGbNizZ0y by [email protected] |
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@jevinskie I'm from the past, you're lucky I'm using python and not… |
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Post #ATg8lXIEbzh1F70oam by [email protected] |
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@thomasfuchs good point. and I am a professional Bad Keyboard designer, I could… |
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Post #ATg8w744T89B59Qlai by [email protected] |
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it turns out trying to get and then print a list of all symbols in a game this … |
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Post #ATg8w9owDqpBd5NDv6 by [email protected] |
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I'm sure this is fine |
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Post #ATg9CDj1TNtmNAGYym by [email protected] |
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disassembling and decompiling 11 megabytes of PowerPC binaries: easyprinting a … |
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Post #ATg9TSp0b6rs7IHwDw by [email protected] |
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okay I got it to clear the window and start responding again.there are 1244 RTT… |
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Post #ATg9h5X9yhftwdR7Dc by [email protected] |
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@foone it’s c, strlwr accepts an int which is either a value that fits in a c… |
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Post #ATg9h5b3kCnI8jGEIS by [email protected] |
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@charlotte this strlwr takes a char*, not an int.maybe it's not the standar… |
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Post #ATg9iSzSFloUz0KPce by [email protected] |
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oh hey this is jython, which does that magical getter eliding thing, where you … |
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Post #ATgAe4naM2jskaFN2W by [email protected] |
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40 minutes later I have it done oncenow to do it 1243 more timesI should have j… |
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Post #ATgAqxa4VBgI834MPA by [email protected] |
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this is the code I finally ran:symbols=list(getCurrentProgram().getSymbolTable(… |
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Post #ATgBI06zCTrLnTMJOa by [email protected] |
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@thomasfuchs @foone getting one of those should be a tax-deductible business ex… |
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Post #ATgBI0BavLXu1lVzZw by [email protected] |
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@mjfgates @thomasfuchs I bought the modern version, which is just a servo on a … |
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Post #ATgBcNYdjpQsIz0jLc by [email protected] |
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it didn't work. I'm not sure why. but it didn't. |
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Post #ATgBjvqCfjYieypMhM by [email protected] |
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hmm. it's doing weird things where if I try to do it to ~2400 RTTIs, it fai… |
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Post #ATgTavjZUzNMtfaC9I by [email protected] |
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@foone Misread as: "So I've got a TON of VTubers"...Yea, I have a… |
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Post #ATgTavqJ5wlPEYjZeC by [email protected] |
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@cr1901 those too! |
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Post #ATgWbVRT2MOhVQ54yG by [email protected] |
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@foone Not to put too fine a point on it, told you. I once stress-tested an OS … |
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Post #ATgWbVWQjuMpkoP2hs by [email protected] |
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@SpeakerToManagers yikes |
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Post #ATgX7ueMqjQexCZFUu by [email protected] |
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check out the code: it's saying "rttis[0]" when it means "sy… |
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Post #ATgZa8vNZSvnF376Ku by [email protected] |
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found another game that uses the Spigot engine, that Pipeworks didn't make!… |
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Post #ATgaCaZrCsFM0fNZlw by [email protected] |
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And another. Haunted House (2010, Wii) |
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Post #ATgaZ8xy1wCR2HPZRY by [email protected] |
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@queereen pie r squareghidra r titties |
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Post #ATgat1v5wDWqyQYBeK by [email protected] |
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@queereen pie r squareghidra r titties |
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Post #ATh6xBJEATjrmkrUEi by [email protected] |
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@foone seriously looks like they’re trying to catch some customers looking fo… |
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Post #ATj4ouku1EdiXJeljE by [email protected] |
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did a bit more research, and it turns out Haunted House and Monster High: Ghoul… |
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Post #ATjB2m8TSn7fa7ftJY by [email protected] |
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why is this game allocating 0 bytes aligned to 16-bytes? how does that mean |
