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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 6:00 pm
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[center]"IT'S A SCAM!!!" Senator Sheldon Whitehouse's BRILLIANT
Takedown of the Koch Brothers🦕🦖 & Donald Trump
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Wow. An ethical congressman? Must have come here through the
wormhole from a parallel universe.
I expect a fatal traffic accident momentarily. Perhaps an
airplane crash. Train derailment. Something.
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That option is certainly open to the bastards that run this
profit over planet Capitalist Paradise, but they do not resort
to bopping anyone as long as they can buy or brainwash greed
loving assholes to keep supporting those destroying the planet
in power.
Therefore, Senator Whitehouse won't be bopped any time soon. Too
many Americans are blinded by greed to do the biosphere math and
actually pay attention to the truth filled presentations of
Senator Whitehouse.
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 6:01 pm
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GreenCarReports
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By Eric C. Evarts
Jun 18, 2018
VW's diesel scandal is far from over.
In the latest move on the political chessboard, German
authorities arrested the head of VW's luxury division Audi at
his home Monday morning according to a Reuters report. German
authorities cited concerns that Stadler could obstruct their
ongoing investigation into the diesel emissions cheating
scandal. A German judge ordered Stadler held in custody to
prevent him from obstructing or hindering the diesel
investigation, the report said.
Audi and VW confirmed the arrest to Reuters and noted that under
German law Stadler is presumed innocent unless proved otherwise.
Audi admitted two months after VW did that it had also installed
cheat device software on its cars to fool emissions testing
equipment to deliver clean readings on tests even though its
cars actually emitted as much as 35 times more pollution than
allowed on the road.
Although most of the attention to VW's emissions scandal has
been focused on the U.S., where eight company officials have
been charged, investigations are also ongoing in Germany, where
the cars also failed to meet on-road emissions standards.
CHECK OUT: Audi e-Tron Electric Car To Offer 150-kW Quick
Charging Sites
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1100969_audi-e-tron-electric-car-to-offer-…
Stadler, the former chief of staff to VW's powerful former
chairman Ferdinand Piech, had been handed the post as head of
Audi in an effort to promote the automaker's transition to
electric-car production. His arrest is likely to throw those
restructuring efforts at VW into turmoil.
Audi announced in 2015 that it would develop a new all-electric
SUV, the e-tron, and work to build a network of fast chargers
around the United States to support the car. As part of a
consent decree approved by the court, VW agreed to form a new
division, Electrify America, to build a $2 billion network of
fast chargers around the United States, and the Audi plan was
rolled into that effort. Electrify America has now opened its
first locations in the U.S. and laid out its plans for further
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1117271_audi-ceo-arrested-in-germany-over-…
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 6:01 pm
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[center]Trump's 🦀 tariffs may kill the[b] e-bike
revolution[/b] 😈 🦖[/center]
Lloyd Alter
June 22, 2018
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[center]Chinese bikes at Toronto show CC BY 2.0 Lloyd
Alter[/center]
[center]Just when the market for e-bikes was exploding, it gets
blown up. >:([/center]
The President of the United States is unhappy with the nation's
balance of trade with other countries. Fortunately, he has an
easy solution.
When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade
with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars
are good, and easy to win. Example, when we are down $100
billion with a certain country and they get cute, don�t trade
anymore-we win big. It�s easy!
� Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 2, 2018
In his trade war on China, the US is going after specific items,
and e-bikes are likely to be subject to a 25 percent tariff.
This, of course, at a time when e-bikes are just becoming
popular and affordable, partly due to Chinese imports. And it's
not like there is much of an industry in the USA to protect;
according to Bicycle Retailer, most big American companies are
importing their bikes.
Some bike brands say a 25 percent tariff on import cost would be
multiplied roughly three times, in dollars, at retail price. So
an e-bike valued at $1,000 at Customs would be slapped with a
$250 tariff, resulting in a $750 increase on the sales
floor...Not all e-bikes come from China, of course. But Trek,
Giant, Accell, Pedego and some smaller brands all manufacture at
least some e-bikes there.
This makes life very difficult for those in the industry.
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The whole situation is "frustrating and distracting," said Matt
Moore, who chairs the legislative committee for the Bicycle
Product Suppliers Association and is general counsel for Quality
Bicycle Products. "The frustration is that we all deal with a
long horizon on product planning and sourcing and it's not easy
to just up and change your manufacturer or assembler at the drop
of a hat. It just doesn�t work that way," Moore said. "You've
been planning for a product that's not going to be available for
nine months or a year, and now you don't know if it's going to
have a price that's competitive."
So why is the government going after e-bikes, when there isn't
that much of an industry in the USA to protect? Perhaps it is
because we are not alone in suggesting that e-bikes will eat
cars, and that fewer e-bikes mean more cars being made, more
fossil fuels being consumed, which is Trump's
heaven.[size=18pt]😈 🦖
[/size][center]German e-bike Lloyd Alter/ German e-bike with
Bosch drive/CC BY 2.0 (at article link)[/center]
To be fair and balanced, it should be noted that the European
Union, which has a lot of e-bike manufacturers, is considering a
whopping 189 percent tariff on Chinese bikes. They now have a
big chunk of the market and a few locals have declared
bankruptcy. From the Financial Times:
�Unless we stop China dumping e-bikes they will soon control the
majority of the EU market, destroying our investments,
innovation and competitiveness, as well as substantial
employment and the protection of the environment,� said Moreno
Fioravanti, secretary-general of the European Bicycle
Manufacturers Association.
But in North America, e-bikes are just getting started, and this
tariff might just strangle the industry at birth. Which is
probably the whole point. 😈 🦖
https://www.treehugger.com/bikes/trumps-tariffs-may-kill-e-bike-revolution.html
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 2, 2018, 6:02 pm
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June 28, 2018
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[center]Emails Continue to Reveal Conservative 🦖 Attacks
on Science at EPA[/center]
Just because the White House didn�t let Pruitt run amok with
doesn�t mean he�s given up on appeasing his conservative denier
base when it comes to attacking climate science. The batch of
emails FOIA�d by the Sierra Club that�s been generating stories
all month led to two more revelations this week about how the
EPA tries to accommodate conservative deniers, even if it
doesn�t always give them exactly what they want.
On Tuesday, Politico reported that emails between EPA staff and
Pruitt�s conservative allies showed how deniers sought to have a
career staffer fired as a way to stall or stop the release of
the National Climate Assessment. Lisa Matthews, who played key
management role in the multi-agency process, was the target of
this campaign. According to the emails, David Schnare and E&E
Legal (a group known for weaponizing FOIA against climate
scientists--which, by the way, recently imploded due to some
very juicy intrapersonal drama) talked with representative Lamar
Smith (R-TX) about it, and they brought the plan to the EPA.
Fortunately, the scheme failed and the NCA was published without
significant or obvious denial interference. (Some might tip
their hat in thanks to the NYT�s coverage of the NCA draft for
making it so that any political tampering would be easily
noticed.)
But of course, plans to spike the NCA wasn�t the only effort to
subvert science. Yesterday Scott Waldman at E&E reported that
the CEO of an Oklahoma oil company, Randy Foutch of Laredo
Petroleum, spent a year going back and forth with the EPA about
a potential study on the accuracy of climate models with a focus
on uncertainty 😈, suggesting a clear motive of casting
doubt on the science.
Foutch�s idea, which was ultimately scrapped, was to have the
EPA partner with the University of Texas�s Energy Institute for
the study. As the emails show, UT�s involvement was specifically
to provide cover for the study�s bias. �If industry hosted such
a gathering, then environmental groups might be suspicious; if
government hosts the meeting then industry might be suspicious;
and so forth,� the head of the institute wrote in an email. �But
the idea was that if UT brought people together, we could play
the role of a fair arbiter or mediator."
But there�s a difference between playing the role of a mediator,
and actually being a fair arbiter. Though it might�ve appeared
as unbiased, odds are slim it would have been: Foutch chairs the
Energy Institute�s Board of Advisors. And as Waldman notes in
his report, the Institute came under fire in 2012 for a
fracking-friendly study conducted by a professor who also
happens to be a paid member of an energy company�s board.
Fortunately, the study didn�t happen. But Pruitt does still need
it, or something like it, because of the lawsuit requesting the
records of what science he was referring to when he said last
year that humans aren�t the �primary contributor� to climate
change. E&E reported yesterday
https://www.eenews.net/greenwire/stories/1060086625?t=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eenews.…
/>that the EPA is yet again requesting more time to produce thos
e
records.
Apparently it takes a while to produce evidence that doesn�t
exist.
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 3, 2018, 12:37 pm
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[center]The Age of STUPID
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 3, 2018, 6:02 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: Isn't it just AMAZING how now it is "mankind" in
general, and not the Fossil Fuel 🦕🦖 Crooks and
Liars IN PARTICULAR, that created one of the biggest
environmental disasters in history? [img
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/>Sure, Yeah, we are "all guilty".
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Read about the horrendous habitat destroying effects that
continue to degrade the ocean environment in the Gulf of Mexico
PLUS harm the flora and fauna in the USA and Mexican land areas.
That oil dispersant Corexit ☠️ POISON that
Halliburton
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/>was paid for, which FURTHER polluted the Gulf on the U.S.
taxpayer dime, added MORE grievous harm to numerous species.
The Hydrocarbon Hustlers are destroying this planet's biosphere
for short term profit. We stop burning hydrocarbons or we are
all dead, PERIOD.
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[center]The Deepwater Horizon oil spill was 8 years ago. The
ocean is still struggling to recover[/center]
LAST UPDATED ON JULY 3RD, 2018 AT 3:36 PM BY MIHAI ANDREI
Eight years ago, mankind created one of the biggest
environmental disasters in history. The Deepwater Horizon oil
spill led to the discharge of 4.9 million barrels (210 million
US gal; 780,000 m3) of oil, and nature still hasn�t recovered, a
new study has found.
[center]
Oil from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill approaching the coast
of Mobile, Alabama, on May 6, 2010. (at article link)[/center]
The spill area hosts 8,332 species, all of which are threatened
by the hydrocarbon leaks. A 2014 study of the effects of the oil
spill on bluefin tuna found that toxins from oil spills can
cause irregular heartbeats leading to cardiac arrest. A further
study also found that the toxins could severely damage the
internal organs of predators and even humans in the area �
directly contradicting BP, the oil company responsible for the
spill.
To make matters even worse, the oil dispersant Corexit,
previously only used as a surface application, was released
underwater in unprecedented amounts. The goal was to make oil
more easily biodegradable, but the plan backfired as the oil and
dispersant mixture permeated the food chain through zooplankton
� from which it proceeded to spread across the entire ecosystem.
Chemicals from the spill were found in migratory birds as far
away as Minnesota, with a devastating effect on marine wildlife.
A 2016 study reported that 88% of 360 baby or stillborn dolphins
within the spill area �had abnormal or underdeveloped lungs�,
compared to 15% in other areas.
Birds were also severely affected, both directly and indirectly.
Here, an oiled brown pelican near Grand Isle, Louisiana. Image
credits: Governor Bobby Jindal. (at article link)
No matter where and how you look, the scale of the disaster is
shocking. Alas, it gets even worse: new study found that the
basic building blocks of life in the ocean have been altered,
indicating that the ocean still hasn�t recovered from the oil
spill.
�At the sites closest to the spill, biodiversity was flattened,�
study lead author and University of Southern Mississippi
microbial ecologist Leila Hamdan told The Guardian. �There were
fewer types of microbes. This is a cold, dark environment and
anything you put down there will be longer lasting than oil on a
beach in Florida. It�s premature to imagine that all the effects
of the spill are over and remediated,� she said.
Researchers took sediment samples from shipwrecks scattered up
to 150 km (93 miles) from the spill site to study how and if
micro-biodiversity has recovered. Shipwrecks are biodiversity
hotspots, so it�s a good place to see how life recovered.
Researchers wrote:
�More than 2,000 historic shipwrecks spanning 500 years of
history, rest on the Gulf of Mexico seafloor. Shipwrecks serve
as artificial reefs and hotspots of biodiversity by providing
hard substrate, something rare in deep ocean regions. The
Deepwater Horizon (DWH) spill discharged crude oil into the deep
Gulf. Because of physical, biological, and chemical
interactions, DWH oil was deposited on the seafloor, where
historic shipwrecks are present. This study examined sediment
microbiomes at seven historic shipwrecks.�
Results weren�t encouraging. Microbes are still struggling to
recover, and since they are affected, the entire food chain
that�s built upon them is also affected. There�s a good chance
we have still yet to see all the far-reaching consequences of
this event.
�We rely heavily on the ocean and we could be looking at
potential effects to the food supply down the road,� she said.
�Deep sea microbes regulate carbon in the atmosphere and recycle
nutrients. I�m concerned there will be larger consequences from
this sort of event.�
The timing of the study is also very fitting � it comes just as
a new measure by the Trump 🦀 administration opens up 90%
of U.S. coasts to offshore oil drilling, dismantling ocean
conservation measures put in place by former president Barack
Obama in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon calamity. This means
that this type of disaster will become much more likely in the
future, much to the chagrin of scientists and conservationists.
Journal Reference: Leila J. Hamdan, Jennifer L. Salerno, Allen
Reed, Samantha B. Joye & Melanie Damour. �The impact of the
Deepwater Horizon blowout on historic shipwreck-associated
sediment microbiomes in the northern Gulf of Mexico,� Scientific
Reports.
https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/deepwater-oil-spill-disaster-01…
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 9, 2018, 12:13 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: This old article is more applicable than ever
today. [img
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TAE (The Automatic Earth web site is the home of fracked gas
cheerleader "energy expert" Nicole Foss 🦖)
[center]Waste Based Society: Solutions and Alternatives[/center]
Published June 12, 2012
[quote]Are there viable solutions and alternatives to the Energy
intensive Waste Based Society we currently live in, which do not
entail a return to Paleolithic levels of technology? Diner and
TAE Commentariat member A. G. Gelbert outlines a myriad of
technologies which might be employed to maintain a higher
technological base for society.
RE[/quote]
[center]Solutions and Alternatives to the Waste Based
Society[/center]
by A. G. Gelbert
We are cursed with a rather effective propaganda machine that
defends the status quo and works mightily to provide allegedly
iron clad arguments exposing our desperate dependence on fossil
fuels and the enormous debt we owe to them for our �wonderful
civilization�. The media has cleverly weaved fact and fiction to
present plausible arguments against the practicality of going
cold turkey on fossil fuels and 100% on renewables.
Not one word about the fact that fossil fuels are easy to meter
and conveniently provide a constant revenue stream for the rich
along with governmental control of a populace that simply cannot
move or function without daily use of fossil fuels ever seems to
be mentioned. Not one word about how renewables cannot be
metered or taxed easily and how that feature gives everyone a
large degree of independence aand flexibility in disaster
situations to help themselves or a less fortunate neighbor is
mentioned.
On the other hand, the continuous and vociferous denial of the
link between fossil fuels and environmental problems, regardless
of scientific concensus on this very real link, never seems to
go away either. The actual history of the industrial revolution
involving some very brutal measures to coerce humans to abandon
horses, as only one of many coercive measures, for tranportation
and farming are always ignored and replaced with a stream of
pejorative comments about horse dung in big cities. People did
not want to get rid of their horses!
I am not simply talking about city ordinances and fines
targeting horses. Right around 1865 a big push began to sell
farm machinery. Amazingly, a huge horse plague hit the U.S. that
year that killed a massive amount of horses. No explanation
beyond �Civil War stress� blarney was ever given. These horses
were not just city horses in population centers but out in the
country as well.
The move to horseless carriages began on the farm with steam
power and hydrocarbon lubricants. The automobile came later
along with the bone cancer. Bone cancer from the original
automoblie fuel, benzene, is seldom mentioned by the media and
apparently is considered no big deal in comparison to horseshit
odor. Moving on to the early 20th century, Rockefeller has a
waste product in his refinery cracking towers (after separating
all those great heavy and light lubricants) called gasolene and
he talks Henry Ford into modifying the carburators to run on it.
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Of course the �minor� problem with benzene fuel may have helped
make the switch. There were electric cars on the road at the
time. Cleveland had wind generators creating electricity at that
time! You�ll never guess what happened to them and the electric
trolleys all over many towns in the USA. So, enough of that.
Everyone here knows how predatory capitalism attempts to game
the system to achieve price control and a monopoly. Once much
more efficient and sustainable technologies are shoved aside by
hook or by crook, the distorted and mendacious meme that our
current technology is the result of friendly capitalist
competition in the �free market� is pushed.
Predation occurs followed by propaganda versions of history.
That is the real history of the industrial revolution in regard
to our choices of energy production. Renewables got squeezed
out, not because they couldn�t compete favorably, but because
the pollution and health costs of fossil fuels got
�externalized�. Along the way, the independence of the mostly
agrarian American in energy production and use was crushed.
A love afffair with the car was fostered to the point that in
the late 1920�s more Americans had cars than flush toilets. Of
course they were better off, ecologically speaking, without
flush toilets, but the point is the job of selling Americans on
fossil fuels was a done deal by that time.
So please remember that nobody was doing us any favors, like the
media wants to claim; they were selling us something in order to
concentrate wealth and power in a few hands. They were using us
as a cash cow to the point of introducing planned obsolecence,
rampant consumerism to keep the factories going and
simultaneously thwarting moves to sustainability like Henry
Ford�s plan to make cars out of hemp plastic in the early1940s.
We like new stuff and are always looking for the latest model
year of the car or whatever because we have been manipulated by
experts to do so. It has absolutely nothing to do with our
health, well being or happiness. Bernays really messed us up.
Fast forward to the present where the witches brew of ecological
harm brought about by industrialization has caught up with us.
And NOW, all of a sudden, we just can�t live without all this
�wonderful� energy packed fossil fuel economy.
Methinks somebody wants to slap a guilt trip on the chumps so
they agree to clean up the mess even though the media keeps
claiming there isn�t really that much of a mess. We, the masses,
are accused of being wasteful pigs that bred like rats thanks to
fossil fuels.
Where to begin? How about the fact that family size has been
decreasing, not increasing, througout the industrial revolution?
That�s right. The numbers were baked in by 1800 and the wars
slowed them down a bit. Louis Pasteur and Lister did a hell of a
lot more to create our present population �problem� than fossil
fuels. Most of the key scientific advancements in medicine were
not exactly high tech and fossil fuel dependent. A human makes
it past 5 years of age and he has a huge chance of living out
his 3 score and ten. It was the enormous reduction in infant
mortality brought about by antiseptic procedures that caused the
population explosion, not fossil fuels. It�s a stretch to say
that fossil fuels alowed people to obtain clean water to wash
their hands before delivering a baby, but I�m sure the media
verbal contortionists would toss it out there to further muddy
the waters of historical truth.
The much touted plumbing advancements that require machinery and
factories powered by fossil fuels, while they did reduce disease
in population centers and prolonged life, were setting us up for
more fossil fuel use through improper humanure handling. I
maintain that the main cause of our population explosion is
knowledge of disease microbes, their propagation methods and our
changes in hygiene as a result.
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What about all this waste we now produce that we have been
folded, spindled and mentally mutilated through Freud�s nephew
Wall Street amygdala reptilian brain control propaganda? They
set us up and now WE are the bad guys? They want us to shop till
we drop and WE are the problem? And how much �waste� do WE
actually produce on a carbon footprint basis compared to the
global 1%?
Well, Senator Bernie Sanders stated recently that less than 1%
of the U.S. owns about 40% of the assets (I�m not talking about
income increases although they have gotten the lion�s share over
the last ten years as well). Yes, I know he talks about banks
too but he mentions those 400 or so elite families every now and
then. Now figure the carbon footprint of those people and
compare it with the rest of us. All those endless films about
diapers, milk gallons and so on used in our middle class
lifetimes with the obligatory landfill mountains thrown in are
nothing compared with the horrendous and gigantic amount of crap
these families generate. Isn�t it amazing that when it comes to
pollution and wasteful habits, we are �all in this together�? No
attempt is made to segregate out the worst offenders. On the
contrary, the poor and middle class are constantly demonized as
being irresponsible useless eaters. It�s all quite Orwellian on
the part of the media.
But yeah, we do waste, and we have a waste problem that is real,
so let�s talk about it.
Waste can certainly destroy a society, species or most of the
ecosphere if, as many point out, we continue with the ridiculous
paradigm that we can industrially do multi-generational damage
to the life support systems humans depend on and not define this
as suicide. It�s almost like our nuclear nuts and oil fetish
fucks have morphed us into a mass version of the heaven�s gate
cult. Those people thought they could hitch a ride on a comet by
commiting suicide. Every single step in industrializaton has,
for anyone willing to do the TOTAL math, NOT been ecospherically
cost effective. The fact that a small group of humans has
temporarily benefited at the expense of the overwhelming
majority of humans and all other earthlings right now, not to
mention the obvious acceleration in environmental degradation
promising a super bleak future, seems to go right over the heads
of way to many otherwise intelligent people.
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[center]Heaven's Gate Cult Leader that convinced many to commit
suicide[/center]
Just like the heaven�s gate cult, people are addicted to a dream
that never was, PERIOD. All talk about this and that from our
youth and how much fun we all had and how nostalgic we are for
those nicer times is the exact same phenomenum of a drug addict
longing for his first high. LISTEN UP! We are a function of the
ecosphere. We DO NOT, despite all the best propaganda efforts of
our scientific community, understand the mechanism of the
ecosphere sufficently to tinker with it, let alone wantonly
pollute it with �externalisms�. EXTERNALISMS!? That�s just some
economist bullshit! There are NO externalisms inside the life
bubble called the ecosphere; it just takes a while to catch up
with you when you mine, bomb and toxify with chemicals NIMBY
areas for a few centuries. We are there and yet our scientific
community and our financial community and our political wheeler
and dealer con-artists with their new techno death toys and
�miracle� GMO crops and drug after drug to replace patent
expirations, new ripoff scams, more war profiteering and
emotional button pushing divide and conquer racist crap just DO
NOT GET IT (or maybe they do get it and are insanely trying to
make hay out of it).
The people in charge of our dysfunctional clusterfuck are akin
to that psycho Whiteapple that led the heaven�s gate cult. They
will not change to a sustainable paradigm because THAT requires
subordination to the reality that we are a product of the
ecosphere and the humble acceptance that we do not understand it
yet so, until we do, we must henceforth emulate natural
processes of cradle to grave recycling in all industrial
technology and outlaw destructive activities like war or perish.
No, they prefer to insanely reduce the world population by
environmental collapse in the ridiculous la-la land elite hope
that then the ecosphere will cure itself and they can continue
their merry resource extraction paradigm as if nothing happened.
It won�t work because these reductionist morons in power with
their scientific priesthood of techno nut balls are so full of
pride from all their tremendous �contributions� over the last
two centuries that they cannot see the monstrous downside of the
technology explosion and that, yes, technology can be developed
and used in an environmentally friendly manner. They don�t want
to do the work. They are supremely irresponsible and supremely
greedy and incredibly stupid.
Instead of doing a rethink, they are just flooring the
accelerator and increasing their propaganda blitz.
I am not against technology. Since about 1970 we have had the
knowledge to use technology to produce an environmentally
friendly and sustainable society free of poisons in food and
industry in the scientific literature. It has been deliberately
supressed time and time again. Imagine what it cost to cover the
country with roads and power lines. Well, decentralized power,
food and transportation would cost a hell of a lot less. It�s
total bullshit that we can�t do this or that we are �hooked� on
oil or nuclear or natural gas. We could have switched away
decades ago. In the 70s NASA used solar panels to bring
electricity to a Navajo community which was not served by the
local electric utilities in a southwestern state. It worked
great and the utilities went ballistic. They wrote to NASA
requesting the solar panel project be stopped because, even
though those areas targeted by NASA were not adequately served
by the utilities, the fossil fuel free energy would �force� the
utilities to lower their rates. NASA stopped the project.
The planet earth DOES NOT have an energy crisis. For you
engineering types out there, just do the math on the energy
required daily to lift trillions of tons of water vapor out of
the rivers, lakes and oceans and deposit this at higher
elevations in the form of rain and then try to tell me about how
much it COSTS (ZERO!) and how we are running out of energy. What
the planet earth has, is a HUMAN GREED AND STUPIDITY crisis
among the 1%. But suppose we could dispense with all the agenda
laced perjorative propaganda about renewables, agree to clean up
the planet and eliminate fossil fuel, nuclear and any other kind
of poisonous technology because we have no other choice?
Can it be done? Yes. Will it be done? Probably not. I just heard
today (June 11, 2012) on the Thom Hartmann show that
phytoplankton replacement in a bay in Maine has dropped 500%
over a period of a decade or so. The phenomenum has now been
confirmed as occurring globally. Phytoplankton produce
approximately 50% of the oxygen on this planet through
photosynthesis. They are not regenerating adequately because
increased ppm of CO2 (now 400 ppm) is acidifying the oceans and
killing them. Can the elite be so insane that they plan to meter
our oxygen? I hope not. At any rate, we must accept that the
fossil fuel economy is not an exercise in fun conveniences or a
requirement to maintain �civilization�; it�s killing our oxygen
supply now as well. We must switch to renewables.
In regard to available energy to maintain some level of
�civilization� with renewables, when I mentioned the world
evaporation energy example, I wasn�t alluding to energy
collection through hydroelectric power (although dams certainly
help as long as salmon runs aren�t thwarted), but using this
vast amount of energy available free to shed light on the
scientifically bankrupt view of quantifying energy by using bomb
calorimeters like we did in college and energy mass per mole in
rapid oxidation. Nature has never done it that way. Everything
in our culture always wants to scale up a process or else judge
it as wanting. That is assbackwards from a sustainable
biological process point of view. In our bodies, the reason we
have enzymes lowering the energy of activation in myriad
chemical reactions occurring per second is to keep us from
overheating and/or rapid ph changes that would kill us but the
fact is that the enzymes accomplish a task with less energy than
a straight forward math computation of the chemical reaction
energy requires.
Capillary processes in us are unconcerned with �stream head'�
like scientists or engineers are when they want to build a dam
yet they work just fine manipulating Bernoulli forces to use the
absolute minimum energy needed to move that blood so the heart
pump doesn�t have to work as hard against vessel friction and
pressure changes. In our techno-love affair, everything we do is
geared to centralized and maximum power. For example we really
do not need a lot of stream head to power a house because we can
gradually pump water up to a reservoir in our house to give us
electricity on demand. But the techno math says you need X
amount of head for Y amount of kilowatts. That�s only true if
you need all of that all the time. Sure, not everyone lives by a
river or a stream but that is simply a small example. A giant
Sequoia pumps over one hundred gallons of water hundreds of feet
up every day through transpiration. The tracheal elements can
stretch water molecules 27 atmospheres as long as the vacuum
holds. The technology to make artificial tree water pumps has
been around for decades but our society is STUCK on the energy
density per mole fixation like a teenager that wants a hot car
to ride to school instead of a small electric rechargable
scooter.
[center]Have you heard about the roaring forties? [/center]
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width=640]
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That�s an area of latitude in the oceans of the southern
hemisphere that is always turbulent. They alone could power the
world�s energy demands after a ten year installation of wave and
undersea current power collection systems that are already being
deployed off of England and Scotland. In regard to corrosion
issues with sea water and maintenance of deep water (massive
pressures to deal with), I only ask that you consider technology
equivalence hurdles that have long since been surmounted in
nuclear power plants (the ultimate in corrosion challenges
including hydrogen embrittlement that is not present with sea
water) and oil undersea pipelines (pump sea water to a land
reservoir and start the power cables from there as a cost
effective low maintenance option).
At present, ocean oil rigs (which are mostly metal) have
sacrificial anodes placed on them so electrolysis in most areas
is thwarted. The anodes are replaced as they are used up. And
remember all we have learned through space exploration about
metallurgy, high temperature insulation during re-entry and
don�t forget microwave power transmission technology. We can do
all this stuff. It�s really not as hard as putting a robot
vehicle on Mars or building a space station in orbit.
It�s telling that Einstein described the photoelectric effect at
the very beginning of the 20th century but the US government has
had to be dragged kicking and screaming to develop solar panels
(we only did it when we needed them in space) but it spent a
fortune on the development of the bomb in the 30s while a large
part of our populace was going hungry.
Have you ever wondered why the oil lobby never attacks nuclear
power but spares no expense to demonize renewables with
disingenuous propaganda and mendacity? Think about that a while.
If you come to the conclusion that the nuclear power plants were
put out there to make bomb material and get you to pay for it
and were never, ever considered a viable alternative to fossil
fuels for the production of electricity or a serious source of
oil lobby competition, you win the prize.
There is also no excuse whatsoever for not using solar and
electric power to run every single ship in the ocean. It would
be child�s play to switch all automobiles and trucks to full
electric as long we had geothermal, wind, tide and ocean current
derived power 24/7, not to mention solar panels.
Do you know what oil tankers do after they offload the oil? They
fill huge portions of the holds with sea water (for ballast) and
then dump it when they get back to reload with oil. This massive
pollution goes on day in and day out. We have a guaranteed
continuous oil spill as long as we have a fossil fuel ocean
tanker economy.
As for fertilizers and food production machinery requiring a
massive amount of fossil fuels to feed 7 billlion humans, the
fact is that using decentralized permaculture with humanure
(after appropriate and low tech local processing to avoid
disease pathogens) along with greenhouse technology for nordic
climates can replace the fossil fuel required to run tractors,
make fertilizer and insecticides and herbicides.
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I mention farm machinery because there is increasing evidence
that plowing needs to be replaced by non-plowing with perennial
crops in order to stop the massive top soil loss and lowered
nutrition of crop yield (they look the same but don�t have the
same nutritional content). Other posters here are up on humanure
and they are right. I recommend anyone repulsed by this to think
again. Feces are an inseparable part of being human and it�s
high time we stopped with this Victorian idiocy of seeing it as
bad stuff; it�s part of our salvation as a species. An added
plus with humanure through the avoidance of chemical fertilizers
is no more ocean dead zones and massive top soil degradation.
Also the energy and water savings in not pumping human waste to
be treated with chemicals (made with fossil fuels) in a sewage
treatment plant would save billons of dollars.
Examples of how renewables can switch us off of fossil fuels
quickly:
www.euronews.com/2012/05/27/germany-breaks-solar-energy-record
www.euronews.com/2012/06/06/solar-plane-completes-maiden-interco
ntinental-flight
www.euronews.com/2012/03/05/sea-solution-to-future-energy-needs
www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/renewableenergy/3535012/Ocean-c
urrents-can-power-the-world-say-scientists.html
Pelamis wave power device that looks like a giant snake:
www.weirdlyodd.com/10-renewable-energy-sources/
Zero energy balance hotel:
www.euronews.com/2012/05/16/go-green-get-growing
I think this can be done in TEN years, not forty:
www.euronews.com/2012/05/18/in-40-years-every-home-every-buildin
g-will-be-a-power-plant-says-jeremy-rifki
Growing food and the fossil fuel �requirement� is a dependency
created by the fossil fuel industry but we CAN shake that
dependency without mass starvation and depopulation:
www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/85/1/Fuel-and-food.html
�The strategic goal of biofuel is to supplement or even replace
fossil fuels, the amount of which is constantly and rapidly
diminishing.� haitireconstruction.ning.com/page/biofuel-1
I�ve already mentioned my views on the population explosion and
its causes but I wish to point out how the oil lobby has tried
to make fossil fuel brownie points out of it.
Remember the green revolution of the 60s, 70s and 80s that
supposedly caused the population explosion? The numbers are in.
The yields are not statistically different with all the fossil
fuel fertilizer, herbicides and insecticides than without them.
The green revolution is a lie fostered by, you guessed it, the
fossil fuel lobby.
Their only valid claim is the fuel for machinery which now turns
out to lower crop nutrition from top soil plowing degradation.
This degradation is caused by a combination of chemical
fertilizers and plowing (bare soil tends to blow away when dry
or erode when wet) which leaches the soil of trace minerals
needed to produce nutritious and tasty as opposed to bland
crops. The way things stand right now, agricultural guidelines
in the U.S. state that it�s okay to lose 4 tons of top soil per
acre per year from �modern� farming techniques. The government
claims it is the price we pay for high �yields�. Are you
comfortable with that? I�m not. Considering top soil
regeneration takes over 100 years, I cannot believe we are doing
anything but losing massive amounts every year.
And last but not least, the militaries of the world are the most
voracious users of fossil fuel. We sure as hell do not need them
to keep 7 billion fed and clothed. The U.S. Navy, in particular,
has the top spot as fossil fuel user AND polluter.
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We need gradual, decentralized trickle charge or slow pumping
energy storage systems for sustainable humanity. Anything else
is not viable for the planet. If we want to zip around at high
speed and be able to have instant this and that, yes we have an
energy crisis. If we want to emulate biological processes and
eschew the love affair with higher energy density per mole of
fossil and or nuclear poisons killing the planet, we don�t have
an energy crisis.
Nature paces everything; so should we.
All that said, there is the 1% with their hubris and arrogance
and there is the rest of humanity. The agenda of the 1% is a tad
different from the rest of us. I agree the knockdown is coming.
The people controlling the levers of innovation and adaptation
in our governments and the elite parasites that own them want
this knockdown so it will come. I maintain that the false notion
of a causal relationship between a large population and a
polluted, unsustainable, fossil fuel dependent human society is
the driving force behind this elite desire for a knockdown. The
elites are the only truly unsustainable population on this earth
because of their mega-carbon footprints.
So, in true Wall Street Orwellian fashion, they blame the bulk
of the 7 billion humans for THEIR piggery and slavish dependency
on fossil fuels. The 1% that owns our governments loves the
predatory resource extraction paradigm despite the fact that
some of them probably suspect that it will cause a population
knockdown, not from lack of fossil fuels, but from environmental
collapse. Billions of humans dying is considered a good thing by
the 1%. They think it will solve the world�s environmental
problems and provide a more manageable population of slaves. The
1% probably grumble about minimum gene pool diversity species
population required in order to perpetuate homo sapiens. The 1%
think robots will take care of all the �important� work while
medical technology available to the 1% will provide them with
150 year plus lifetimes. They are wrong and they are the cancer
that is destroying humanity.
There�s a way to clean up this world and live sustainably.
Killing off several billion is a straw man. It�s typical elite
bullshit adding two an two and getting whatever answer keeps
them in the catbird seat. The media will continue to block the
truth from the people 24/7.
I apologize if I tried to cover too much ground here but this
situation we are in has matured for well over a century and we
need to see how we got here to understand, if we survive, how to
prevent a new set of snakes from selling us snake oil in the
future.
Feel free to pass all or any part of this rant with or without
attribution.
Everything I wrote can be researched free on the internet if
you want to post links about horse plagues, NASA correspondence
with utilities, Henry Ford and hemp plastic, Rockefeller
chicanery, U.S. solar panel development reasons, Americans
starving while the bomb was being developed, Bernays propaganda
tools, etc.
A.G. Gelbert
Posted in Energy, Home | Tagged Automobiles, Energy, Fetilizer,
Horses, Oil, Permaculture, Propaganda, Sustainability, Waste
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 12, 2018, 10:42 pm
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JUL 11, 2018TD ORIGINALS
[center]Scott Pruitt 🦖Got Off Easy: Ecocide Is No Small
Matter[/center]
By Paul Street
SNIPPET:
Billionaire climate-denying and planet-cooking savages like
Donald Trump 🦀, the Kochs 🦖 and Harold Hamm
🦕 and their servants like Scott Pruitt 🐒 hardly
invented our �ecological rift,� which is rooted in what John
Bellamy Foster rightly calls �capitalism�s [longstanding] war on
Earth.� With the U.S. in the oil-coal-and-gas-addicted,
commons-plundering and poisoning lead, humanity has been
steering madly toward the cliff of environmental
self-extermination for decades. But with his determination to
�deregulate energy��to go full bore with the greenhouse gassing
to death of life on earth (a crime destined to the make the
Nazis look like small-time criminals)�Trump represents what
Chomsky has called �almost a death knell for the species.� The
Trump presidency�s extreme commitment to fossil fuels is no
small part of why the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists moved its
Doomsday Clock ahead by 30 seconds to two minutes to midnight.
A young mother with her baby in her arms confronted Pruitt at a
Washington restaurant just days before his resignation. �Hi� she
said, �I just wanted to urge you to resign because of what
you�re doing to the environment and our country. This is my son.
He loves animals. He loves clean air. He loves clean water.
Meanwhile, you�re slashing strong fuel standards for cars and
trucks, for the benefit of big corporations.�
Pruitt took his two bodyguards and left in shame before the
mother and her child could return to their seats.
He got off easy. The loss of a government job and public
humiliation is a small price to pay for playing a leading role
in the eco-exterminist destruction of livable ecology.
People like Pruitt should feel lucky to be able to walk freely
and breathe fresh air, or what�s left of it on a planet he�s
been trying to destroy.
Four terrible things are darkly noteworthy about Pruitt�s forced
resignation last week. First, it was absurdly belated. The fact
that he lasted as long as he did atop the EPA makes one wonder
just how far one of Trump�s favorite petro-plutocratic swamp
creatures has to sink before he can lose his job in Washington.
Pruitt�s departure came after months of seemingly endless
controversy surrounding his personal corruption. The Pruitt
scandal timeline includes the following:
● April 12, 2017: The Washington Post revealed Pruitt
requested and received an around-the-clock security detail at
huge cost to taxpayers (nearly $3.5 million during his first
year in office).
Full article:
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/scott-pruitt-got-off-easy-ecocide-is-no-small…
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 20, 2018, 8:41 pm
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Make Nexus Hot News part of your morning: click [i]here
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July 19, 2018
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[center]Mining Magnate
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/>of Australia�s [b]Climate Denial Org [img
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India Pale Ales, or IPAs, can be a divisive drink among beer
enthusiasts. Many, particularly of the hipster persuasion, swear
by the hoppy and sometimes floral flavors of IPAs, eschewing
more normal lagers and pilsners as boring swill. Normal people,
on the other hand, often consider IPAs far too bitter to enjoy
in any significant quantity.
We�d recommend settling in with a brew of your choice to deal
with the overload of denial from down under to come: today we�re
talking about an entirely different IPA, Australia�s Institute
for Public Affairs.
IPA is basically Australia�s Heartland or Heritage. They�re
ostensibly a nonprofit think tank, but in practice they act a
whole lot like an arm of the conservative political movement and
fossil fuel industry. Now, thanks to court filings reported on
by Graham Readfearn this week in DeSmog
https://www.desmogblog.com/2018/07/17/billionaire-mining-magnate-gina-rinehart-…
/>we know that IPA is also funded by a major mining interest:
Australia�s richest person, Gina Rinehart. [img
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Rinehart�s company, Hancock Prospecting Proprietary Ltd (HPPL),
gave nearly $5 million to IPA in 2016 and 2017, according to
documents produced as part of a lawsuit brought by Gina�s
daughter Bianca accusing her mother of mismanaging company
funds.
This is particularly problematic for IPA, Readfearn notes,
because it directly contradicts the organization�s own tax
reporting. In 2017, IPA reported that 86 percent of its $6.1
million income for the year came from individuals, and only 1
percent from businesses. But that�s hard to square with the fact
that it got $2.2 million from HPPL that year--a full third of
its income. Similar story for 2016: IPA claimed that 90 percent
of its income was from individuals, despite getting nearly half
of its income from an HPPL donation. (For the record, Bianca�s
argument, as described in the court proceedings, is that IPA�s
reporting implies that the HPPL donations are actually from her
mother Gina as an individual, not HPPL as a business.)
Astonishing, though, that a group that promotes climate denial
would be so loose with the truth about its industry backers!
Something like that could never happen here in the US, right?
Especially with the IRS relaxing reporting requirements, making
it even easier for dark money groups to hide their funding?
Surely not! And we�re sure that had Scott Pruitt known that the
IPA was so heavily reliant on polluter funding, he never would
have spent $45,000 sending aides to Australia ahead of a trip he
planned to take there to, at least in part, meet with the IPA. A
trip that was being planned in part by consultant Matthew
Freedman, who once worked for Paul Manafort helping Filipino
dictator Ferdinand Marcos. (The Wiki page for Marcos has a whole
section on his human rights abuses, ranging from abductions to
torture to massacres. Marcos also lootied billions from the
country�s coffers, in part to feed his wife�s extensive shoe
collection.)
Had Pruitt known the IPA was industry-backed, certainly he
would�ve canceled the trip (which he did anyway because of last
year�s hurricanes).
Just kidding! He would�ve gone regardless, but probably would
have scrubbed the calendar record of the meetings.
Good thing Pruitt�s out and Andrew Wheeler is in. After all,
it�s not like a major coal magnate just indicated at a public
event that Wheeler has worked for him for 20 years, implying
that Wheeler [img
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/>was doing coal�s bidding while a government employee.
Oh wait, that�s exactly what�s happened
https://twitter.com/foe_us/status/1019622865035919360.http://renewablerevolutio…
[move][I][font=impact]The Fossil Fuelers 🦖 DID THE
Clean Energy Inventions suppressing, Climate Trashing, human
health depleting CRIME,[COLOR=BROWN] but since they have
ALWAYS BEEN liars and conscience free crooks 🦀, they are
trying to AVOID [/color] DOING THE TIME or PAYING THE FINE!
Don't let them get away with it! Pass it on!
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Re: Hydrocarbon Hellspawn Mens Rea Actus Reus
By: AGelbert Date: July 21, 2018, 5:01 pm
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Agelbert NOTE: The following three quotes explain the incredibly
CROOKED Decision of United States District Court for the
Southern District of New York Judge John F. Keenan 🐩
described in the included Ecowatch article:
[quote]"There is a nice legal concept called estoppel. If you
argue that you didn't kill the Major in the library with the
Ming vase because you were in bed with his wife, you are
estopped from pleading self-defence. In the same way, polluters
are estopped from arguing that they were only complying with
public policy as laid down in the law, because they
http://renewablerevolution.createaforum.com/gallery/renewablerevolution/3-13041…
/>spent tens of millions shaping those policies and laws to thei
r
advantage." James Wimberley [/quote]
[quote]"When we are swiftly shuttling ourselves down the path of
irreversible climate cataclysm, the only unreasonable option is
to double down on the status quo."[/quote]
[quote]Totalitarianism " A society living by and for continuous
warfare in which the ruling caste have ceased to have any real
function but succeed in clinging to power through force and
fraud" - George Orwell[/quote]
EcoWatch
By Olivia Rosane
Jul. 20, 2018 11:46AM EST
[center]The Big Apple Loses to Big Oil 🦕🦖 [img
width=40]
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/>as Judge 🐵 💵 🎩 Dismisses Climate
Liability Suit[/center]
A federal judge ruled on Thursday in favor of a motion by five
big oil companies to dismiss a lawsuit brought against them by
New York City, which demanded they pay the costs of adapting the
city's infrastructure to climate change, The New York Times
reported.
The ruling comes nearly a month after a federal judge in San
Francisco dismissed a similar case brought by the cities of
Oakland and San Francisco.
In his decision Thursday, Judge John F. Keenan of United States
District Court for the Southern District of New York echoed the
reasoning of Federal Judge William Alsup when he dismissed the
San Francisco and Oakland case.
While both judges acknowledged the reality of climate change,
they thought that crafting policy around it was too large an
issue for the courts to settle.
"Global warming and solutions thereto must be addressed by the
two other branches of government," Keenan wrote in his decision.
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But environmentalists pointed out that fossil fuel companies
like the defendants had done everything in their power to stop
the other branches of government from acting.
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"There is a grave irony here. The fossil fuel company defendants
claimed in court�and the judge 🐒 apparently agreed�that
it is entirely up to Congress and the President to address
climate change. But these same defendants 🦖😈 and
their trade 💵 🎩 groups have fought successfully
against even modest laws and regulations to cut the carbon
pollution from burning fossil fuels that causes global warming,"
Union of Concerned Scientists President Ken Kimmel said in a
statement reported by Climate Liability News.
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[font=times new roman]Like San Francisco, New York City
spokesperson Seth Stein said the city would appeal the
decision.[/font] [img
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"The mayor believes big polluters must be held accountable for
their contributions to climate change and the damage it will
cause New York City. We intend to appeal this decision and to
keep fighting for New Yorkers who will bear the brunt of climate
change," he told The New York Times.
The city had argued that the defendants―Chevron,
ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil, BP and Royal Dutch Shell―had
known about the risks posed by burning fossil fuels since the
1950s and had "engaged in an overt public relations campaign
intended to cast doubt on climate science," an argument Keenan
acknowledged in his decision.
The cases brought by New York, San Francisco, Oakland and other
municipalities attempt to sue oil companies using state public
nuisance law that allows courts to find defendants liable for
interfering with the use of property, according to The New York
Times.
Attempts to sue oil companies over climate change under federal
nuisance law led to a Supreme Court decision in 2011 ruling that
the Clean Air Act displaced nuisance law on the federal level
and put the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in charge
of dealing with the issue.
The new batch of lawsuits argues state nuisance law still
applies, but Keenan rejected the idea that state law would apply
to the city's lawsuit, saying climate change was an area of
"federal concern," The New York Times reported.
However, environmental law experts said judges trying similar
cases in state courts might rule differently.
"The cases that are either filed in federal court or�as with the
San Francisco and Oakland cases�removed to federal court are
decided under federal law," University of California Los Angeles
environmental law professor Ann Carlson told Climate Liability
News. "Federal nuisance law is much less favorable for the
cities and counties than state law is. The state courts are
where we are likely to see interesting and perhaps surprising
rulings." [img
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There are currently similar cases pending in courts in
California, Washington, Colorado and Rhode Island, Climate
Liability News reported.
https://www.ecowatch.com/climate-liability-lawsuit-new-york-2588447153.html
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