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| #Post#: 14652-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: paralambano Date: April 18, 2017, 12:18 pm | |
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| http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/10-years-lionel-messis-greatest-10246237 | |
| http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/10-years-lionel-messis-greatest-10246237: | |
| The similarities between Messi's solo goal and Diego Maradona's | |
| famous, match-winning effort against England at the 1986 World | |
| Cup are spooky. Both men ran for just over 10 seconds. Maradona | |
| covered 62 metres, Messi 60. Both touched the ball 13 times and | |
| beat six opponents. | |
| The goals are virtually identical. The fact they were both | |
| scored by diminutive, brilliant Argentinian numbers tens - and | |
| that they are perhaps the two best goals of the last 30-odd | |
| years - simply makes the resemblance all the more uncanny. | |
| Messi's dribble: | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHUb4y7Txo0 | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHUb4y7Txo0 | |
| Maradona's dribble (starting at 44 seconds): | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY40__rBvSk | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY40__rBvSk | |
| Ooo-hoo-hoooooo! | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 14654-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: Kerry Date: April 18, 2017, 1:24 pm | |
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| Must be voodoo. | |
| #Post#: 14740-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: paralambano Date: April 23, 2017, 5:41 pm | |
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| Okay . . . | |
| This was a wounded animal (FC Barcelona) some knowledgeable | |
| (here?) being kicked when it was down (experts too, myself | |
| unhappy with their inconsistency all season). It was an epic, | |
| entertaining back and forth sporting battle by arguably the | |
| biggest and most storied rivalry in team sport: | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTPxORAlT0Y | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTPxORAlT0Y | |
| This isn't the Superbowl. This is the Superbowl times 4 | |
| worldwide, North Americanos! Please google El Clasico. | |
| Sergio Ramos sent off with a reckless tackle on Messi. One can't | |
| go in like that without touching the ball. | |
| I'll leave it to later when I come down however rational I may | |
| be now: | |
| LIONEL MESSI! LIONEL MESSI! LIONEL MESSI! LIONEL MESSI! LIONEL | |
| MESSI! (5 times for his 500th La Liga goal) | |
| He actually took off his shirt in the Bernabeu and held it high. | |
| I haven't seen it before this way of him. | |
| http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/gallery/lionel-messi-celebration-el-clasico-emb… | |
| http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/gallery/lionel-messi-celebration-el-clasico-emb… | |
| What means this? However powerful you are (Real Madrid is a | |
| veritable "murderers row" which eliminated Bayern Munich in the | |
| Champions League . . my humble Leo . . . well . . . . | |
| play like Barca if you dare (and I mean Barca too) . . . . | |
| . . . when you mean to be Barca . . . . | |
| Messi. The reflection of God so many times in football boots | |
| :). | |
| http://www.lanacion.com.ar/2016075-sant-messi-y-messi-decide-la-liga-las-tapas-… | |
| http://www.lanacion.com.ar/2016075-sant-messi-y-messi-decide-la-liga-las-tapas-… | |
| Done now. Like a madcap football fan :). | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 14754-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: paralambano Date: April 25, 2017, 12:33 pm | |
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| This was supposed to be Real Madrid finishing Barca off this | |
| season. The pundits had said it was the end of the glory years | |
| for Messi and his team. Mauled, a mouthful of blood down on the | |
| pitch, his team glum, Leo produced one of his most stunning | |
| goals to win El Clasico and an emblematic, solemn, silent | |
| demonstration of the phenomenon when he stood there holding his | |
| shirt up to the Madridistas as if to say, Remember me. I'm | |
| Lionel Messi. #10. FC Barcelona. Which said it all for me. What | |
| a way to "drop the mic." | |
| But, hey, it's not all so serious: | |
| http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/gallery/lionel-messi-el-clasico-goal-celebratio… | |
| http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/gallery/lionel-messi-el-clasico-goal-celebratio… | |
| :) | |
| para . . . . . | |
| #Post#: 14756-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: Kerry Date: April 25, 2017, 3:34 pm | |
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| His facial expression is great. So deadpan. I liked the | |
| "photo" of him with the bull. | |
| http://b.fssta.com/uploads/2017/04/10-8.vadapt.767.high.0.jpg | |
| The BBC may have goofed when they reported he lost a few teeth. | |
| I think they said that. I think I heard them say that. From | |
| what I can gather, he didn't -- but he will need some kind of | |
| dental work. | |
| Then I was wondering how can one player get his elbow that high, | |
| high enough to strike another player in the face? I kept trying | |
| to visualize how it could have happened. Then I saw a photo. | |
| It turned out that both Messi and Marcelo were airborne when | |
| it happened. | |
| [img] | |
| https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/untitled-419.jpg?strip=all&… | |
| #Post#: 14765-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: paralambano Date: April 26, 2017, 4:51 pm | |
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| Kerry - | |
| I saw the pictured hit on Messi in real time. It came by the | |
| elbow of Marcelo (Brazilian national teammate of Neymar | |
| [suspended this match for his sarcastic applauding of a ref]), | |
| probably the best left-back in soccer worldwide currently and a | |
| player I would have on Barca's back-line in an instant if I got | |
| what I wished for. The thing is, in spite of Sergio Ramos and | |
| Marcelo apologizing to Messi as he lay prone spitting out blood, | |
| I have my doubts as to its innocence. Ramos, incidentally, was | |
| later red-carded in the match for a flying two-footed leap at a | |
| Messi busy-ball that one commentator said looked like a | |
| leg-breaker. A totally unnecessary challenge from the Madrid | |
| player which looked suspiciously like if you can't stop Messi on | |
| the ball in the match, then take him out of the game. The | |
| challenge came midfield. Ramos is a back-line defender. What's | |
| he taking a tackling run at Messi up there for? | |
| Here is Fabio Capello, a former manager of Real Madrid | |
| (2006-2007) making this claim: | |
| The Italian stated: "A straight red for Ramos was the correct | |
| decision. Just look at the lunge on Messi, it's criminal. He | |
| furthered: "Each time there is a Madrid-Bar�a duel at the | |
| Santiago Bernab�u, certain Madrid players go out with the | |
| intention of injuring Messi". | |
| http://en.as.com/en/2017/04/24/football/1493064338_366966.html | |
| http://en.as.com/en/2017/04/24/football/1493064338_366966.html | |
| I don't know what was in Ramos' mind at the time. He said later | |
| that he was not intending to hurt Messi but admitted that he | |
| ought to have been given a yellow instead of getting booted out | |
| of the game and a one match suspension added. And Ramos is such | |
| a gifted player. A true centre-back capable of winning a game | |
| with the stretch of his neck. Amazing that this should have | |
| happened at all. | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 14767-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: Kerry Date: April 27, 2017, 5:32 pm | |
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| Motive is always hard to determine. How important should | |
| motive be to a ref? Perhaps they should stress the results of | |
| actions a little more and the motives a little less? | |
| Can you imagine how people would drive if you had no rules about | |
| except to try to drive safely. You tell people the law is not | |
| to drive faster than is safe without any other guideline. You | |
| get the traffic cop to guess if someone genuinely thought the | |
| speed was safe. " Oh, you ran that red light and thought you | |
| could get through without causing an accident -- okay, if you | |
| thought that, no ticket for you." | |
| One thing seems clear: Even if these players don't have the | |
| active intention of harming Messi, their motive to play without | |
| injuring him is not very strong. | |
| #Post#: 14774-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: paralambano Date: April 28, 2017, 8:54 am | |
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| Kerry - | |
| [quote]Motive is always hard to determine. How important | |
| should motive be to a ref? Perhaps they should stress the | |
| results of actions a little more and the motives a little less? | |
| Can you imagine how people would drive if you had no rules about | |
| except to try to drive safely. You tell people the law is not | |
| to drive faster than is safe without any other guideline. You | |
| get the traffic cop to guess if someone genuinely thought the | |
| speed was safe. " Oh, you ran that red light and thought you | |
| could get through without causing an accident -- okay, if you | |
| thought that, no ticket for you." | |
| One thing seems clear: Even if these players don't have the | |
| active intention of harming Messi, their motive to play without | |
| injuring him is not very strong. [/quote] | |
| Sometimes a ref can discern motive in a revenge scenario where a | |
| player has gone after another after being hurt or humiliated by | |
| them. Then it becomes a bigger, league issue. In Ramos' case, | |
| the ref had made the correct call since Ramos was seen leaving | |
| his feet for the tackle on Messi. | |
| Casemiro, on the other hand, clearly twice interfered with Messi | |
| on the ball but received only a single yellow. He had been | |
| turned inside out by Messi on the ball earlier in the middle of | |
| the pitch. Leo's not a show-boater. He could have gone for the | |
| "sombrero" on Casemiro, a move where the ball is hitched up into | |
| the air over an opponent's head. In any case, Casemiro (the | |
| engine of Madrid's midfield) was carded for interfering with | |
| Messi in the first instance and Messi can be clearly seen waving | |
| a card-hand at the ref asking for the card against Casemiro in | |
| the second. Refs ought to consider whether a player is being | |
| hounded I believe. | |
| [quote]One thing seems clear: Even if these players don't have | |
| the active intention of harming Messi, their motive to play | |
| without injuring him is not very strong. [/quote] | |
| True. No special care taken for sure. Accidents apparently | |
| happen. | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 14813-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: paralambano Date: May 4, 2017, 11:57 am | |
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| http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/05/04/barcelona-star-messi-builds-… | |
| http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/05/04/barcelona-star-messi-builds-… | |
| para . . . . | |
| #Post#: 14822-------------------------------------------------- | |
| Re: Lionel Messi | |
| By: Kerry Date: May 5, 2017, 5:49 am | |
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| [quote author=paralambano link=topic=1194.msg14813#msg14813 | |
| date=1493917030] | |
| http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/05/04/barcelona-star-messi-builds-… | |
| http://www.dailysabah.com/syrian-crisis/2017/05/04/barcelona-star-messi-builds-… | |
| para . . . . | |
| [/quote]This is a good thing. I think it is a good thing to | |
| have money if you don't wind up loving the money instead of | |
| people. | |
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