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#Post#: 467--------------------------------------------------
Garret Riley
By: Jack Date: September 27, 2017, 3:15 pm
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Garret is a new employee of mine, but a very interesting case.
I first met Garret when he was twelve, when I caught him and his
older brother shoplifting.
Allow me to digress for a moment.
I can't tell you how many shoplifters I've spanked over the
years. As best I can remember, the first time was in February
1982 (
http://www.bransomtx.com/firstcatch.html
http://www.bransomtx.com/firstcatch.html).
There weren't many
back then (I didn't have as much experience catching shoplifters
and was much more tentative about things like that). I think it
peaked in the 90s, when I was working full time at the stores
and had many more kids hanging around because of the gaming
tournaments. Things slowed down in the 2000s. I think there
were many reasons for that, but at least part of it was I was
spending more time in the office or at home and less in the
stores. These days, the situation is such that I dont' think
it's be worth trying.
The point is, however, that over a period of 20 or 25 years, I
caught many shoplifters - strip searched some, spanked some,
just talked to some, and on some I did call the police or their
parents. Some of them were very special to me for one reason or
another and I think I remember what happened pretty accurately,
while others probably run together. It's often hard to keep
details straight even without the kind of overlap these more or
less anonymous spankings have (and add to that the number of
pure fiction stories with similar concepts, and...)
[hr]
I did not recognize Garret when he introduced himself to me
recently (maybe a month ago).
He happened to catch me at the store and asked if he could talk
to me. I'm almost always happy to talk to customers, and when I
saw Garret, I was happier. Barret's about average height, I
think - about 5'8" or 9". He's built lean, but not quite
slender. He's blond, with bluish-green eyes, and he wears Buddy
Hollly glasses - the black frames work for his face, though they
wash out his complexion a bit.
We talked for a bit in general. At first he told me that he'd
been a customer when he was younger. He finally said, "You
don't remember me, do you?"
"I'm afraid not. I've had a lot of customers over the years,
and..." I finished with a shrug.
Then he reminded me that I'd caught him and his big brother
shoplifting, and that made things click.
This would have been over 9 years ago, when Van was still in
kindergarten. This has actually been a recurring memory/fantasy
for me, and I can only say that he's changed a lot from when he
was 12.
(You see, there's a problem right there. Garret is not going to
be 21 until next month, so either he was only 11 when this
happened, or it happened during the fall, when Van was in first
grade, rather than in the spring. I'll have to see if I can
find a way to ask Garret what he remembers).
Whenever it happened, I remember Garret as being 12, and his big
brother as 14. If you've never done retail, I can assure you
there are certain moves that most inexperienced shoplifters do.
I have actually caught shoplifters because I was just walking by
and saw one of those behaviors, which led me to circle around
and watch more carefully. Garret and his brother were doing
several of those, then headed upstairs to the game rooms. I
gave them a lead, then quietly followed them up, catching them
in the act.
It turns out that both boys had been in trouble for shoplifting
in the past few months, and the big brother was actually on
probation for it, so they were both very agreeable to anything
that kept this between us. A few minutes later, I had them in
my office, both naked, and standing there while I searched their
clothes. They both knew that, as long as I didn't find anything
else, they were getting spanked. Garret was very upset, though
his brother seemed pretty complacent.
I made sure we all understood the deal - spanking or police was
their choice, and they agreed and chose spanking.
Considering not only that they were shoplifting, but that they'd
done it before, and thus were in no place to complain, Garret
got the hair brush and his big brother got the bath brush. I
won't try to pretend that I remember all the details, but Garret
was looking very nervous as I presented the implements. His
brother was trying to look complacent about the whole thing.
Then I spanked Garret, and I wore him out - he was bawling and
shrieking before I finished, hanging over my lap like a limp
wash cloth. Big brother was quite a bit less sure of himself
when his turn came. I actually had to take the swats a bit
easier with big brother, so I could drag it out as long as
Garret's had been. On the other hand, I remember Garret
watching his brother get it with a mix of awe, schadenfreude,
and maybe just a hint of something more.
After they'd settled down, cleaned up, and dressed, Garret
lagged behind a moment to ask if he could still come in. I told
him I could, but my employees would know he was a shoplifter.
(End of part one).
#Post#: 472--------------------------------------------------
Re: Garret Riley
By: db105 Date: September 27, 2017, 5:55 pm
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Very cool that he ends up working at the same comic store where
he once shoplifted. Rehabilitation and re-integration in society
:D
It's certainly not the first similar situation for you. I
remember a couple of stories about shoplifters at your store.
[quote author=Jack link=topic=53.msg467#msg467 date=1506543313]
Considering not only that they were shoplifting, but that they'd
done it before,
[/quote]
Did they admit that it wasn't their first time? Not a wise
policy, under the circumstances. It might have made you decide
to call the police and/or parents.
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Re: Garret Riley
By: David M. Katz Date: September 28, 2017, 2:10 pm
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At least you know he'll follow your rules or, rather, how you
deal with those who don't. ;D
#Post#: 708--------------------------------------------------
Re: Garret Riley
By: Zyngaru Date: October 7, 2017, 7:37 pm
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When I read this, I immediately connected to the story that Jack
and Crimsonhide wrote together. I don't remember it's name
right now, and didn't go look it up to put a link, but it is for
sure from this story about Garret and his brother, although if I
remember right there was only one shoplifter in the
Jack/Crimsonhide story.
It is actually the story that enticed me to write with
Crimsonhide.
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Re: Garret Riley
By: Adric Date: October 7, 2017, 10:21 pm
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It was Robbie's New Uncle - Robbie Goes Shopping
http://www.malespank.net/viewStory.php?id=17847,
and it does
sound similar to this event. According to Jack, a number of
other shoplifters have been dealt with creatively in his stores.
#Post#: 719--------------------------------------------------
Re: Garret Riley
By: Jack Date: October 8, 2017, 6:56 am
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I think I was 16 the first time I caught and spanked a
shoplifter in a comic store. It happened a lot in the 90s, when
comics were huge, and when I was working the store every day.
These days, and for quite a few years now, I've been becoming
more and more hesitant about doing anything like that. While
I'm sure there are still kids who would rather their parents not
find out (and who would no doubt face a spanking just as bad or
worse at home), we seem to be in a witch hunt mentality these
days that just makes it too risky (or maybe I'm just much more
mature than I was even 10 years ago, and realize all the risks
involved now).
So far, Garret is doing a good job, and Dean has been taking
time to show him some of the jobs that can be done around the
warehouse while having no knowledge of comics.
#Post#: 808--------------------------------------------------
Re: Garret Riley
By: David M. Katz Date: October 12, 2017, 3:01 pm
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Jack, it is likely the wisdom which comes with maturity.
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Re: Garret Riley
By: Jack Date: November 6, 2017, 4:43 am
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I never did come back and add a part 2 to this, though the part
two wasn't going to be as relevant. Garret has shared with me
how his big brother was leading him into trouble and encouraging
him to do stuff, and it sounds like his mom might have been
responsible for some of that as well.
Garret kept reading comics and playing games for a while after
that. I did keep an eye on him, but never caught him doing
anything again. I think his brother avoided the store after
that, and Garret eventually quit coming in himself.
OH, GOSH! Looking back, I see I left out some really important
information (though I think I may have mentioned it in chat).
Garret and his brother were both arrested later. It was about
the time Garret turned 15. He went to TYC (Texas Youth
Commission) and his brother received an adult sentence. There
was some probation involved around that, and some stuff went on
with their mom (who was apparently selling marijuana, and using
the boys to sell it?).
Garret has been spending a lot of time with me over the last six
weeks or so, and I'm still trying to figure him out. He's been
open about some things, but there are a number of things he's
not wanted to discuss at all.
Garret had stayed with his mom a bit while he got out, but he
obviously wanted to get away from her. I helped him out by
letting him have an efficiency apartment that was unrented, and
we made a deal so he could move in easily. He didn't have much
clothing when he was released, and, as I said before, I cleared
out most of our hand-me-down closet in donations to Hurricane
Harvey relief. He and I still managed to get him a decent
wardrobe from the Salvation Army, and I let him borrow the money
against his check.
Garret has been doing a good job at work, and we've been
training him in different stuff that doesn't require a ton of
in-depth knowledge. He's still doing some janitorial, but he's
also started pulling orders, and we're even training him to pack
and send, which is something we never have enough of during the
Christmas season.
Like I said, he's been spending time with me, and I'll take him
around the stores with me, mostly when he's off work. Daniel is
currently working in the stores, learning the more in-depth
routines, and I like the company. He's also been around the
house a fair amount, but he seems like he's uncomfortable around
the kids. I don't know if he doesn't like crowds or what,
because he denies it. On the other hand, I had to threaten him
to get him to come help out on Halloween (after he helped set up
for the parties, then set up for trick-or-treating). He did
agree to help out, and he did end up having a great time.
I did jokingly threaten to spank him one time, when he and I
were at the mall, and he wondered off. I thought he'd either
joke back or tell me he was too old. Instead, he got really
upset that I was mad at him, and I had to assure him that I was
just teasing in order to get him to calm down. I haven't
brought it up again, though it does make me wonder what he
assumes about our relationship.
#Post#: 1805--------------------------------------------------
Re: Garret Riley
By: Jack Date: November 27, 2017, 1:26 pm
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I'm writing about Garret on a rather intermittent base, because
not everything I'm learning is comfortable (and because I'm
really busy).
Garret and I are hanging out a lot, while my kids are at school.
He's learning a lot about the business, and he and Daniel are
becoming friends.
I had thought that Garret would spend Thanksgiving with his
mother, but he wasn't interested in that idea. When I pushed
him on the idea, he admitted that mother had pushed him before
he'd gone to TYC, she'd had him helping her sale marijuana. I
get the feeling there was some extent of abuse involved, though
whether it was from her, or her tolerating his brother picking
on him (or more), I don't know. I'm honestly not even positive
if anything did happen.
So yeah - I invited Garret to join us for Thanksgiving. When he
tried to refuse, I did not resort to threatening a spanking - no
matter how much it might have been meant in jest. I was pretty
forceful about it. He's working hard and trying to do the
things he's supposed to do. Everyone needs support, and I think
that's especially true for people who are having a hard time.
I'm actually starting to wonder if Garret actually has problems
with my kids, or if he's just not comfortable around big groups
of people. He was very shy and quiet for a lot of
Thanksgiving, but he did relax and hang out with some of the
older kids - played some games and watched some football.
It was kind of funny, because he seemed pretty tensed out when
he left that evening, but he was still back Saturday to help
with decorations - and leftovers.
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Re: Garret Riley
By: Jack Date: February 13, 2018, 4:46 am
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I haven't talked about Garrett in a while. Part of that's
because of how crazy my schedule is. Part of it's because I'm
teaching in the mornings, so he and I aren't working together as
much. We still hang out, though.
If you recall, my first week started on Wednesday. After
teaching, I went to see how the pull had gone, and Garrett had
already left to work one of the stories, so I didn't see him.
The next day, when i finished teaching, I saw he'd called. I
called him back, we talked a bit. Garrett is still a bit
awkward socially, but I've come to know him fairly well, and it
wasn't hard to see what he was fishing for - we had lunch
together, and then he went grocery shopping with me, and came
home with me for lunch. We still hang out in the afternoons
once or twice a week. He's even reading Hatchet along with us -
I kind of wish I could sneak him into one of my classes.
No, the reason I haven't talked about Garrett since Thanksgiving
is something he shared with me before Christmas, and it's also
the reason he didn't want to stay with his mom and spent
Thanksgiving with us. His brother raped and molested him when
they were kids, and his mom knew about it. It sounds like there
was actually physical abuse as well (physical discipline that
left marks, and sounds like 'discipline' was sometimes
questionable).
He received some therapy while he was in TYC, but I've made him
start seeing a councilor here. He asked me and his therapist to
talk to each other, because he wants me to know some stuff, but
he has trouble saying it. The therapist ended up agreeing to
supervise a discussion between us. The therapist did end up
telling me a few things afterwards that he felt weren't
violating a confidence.
it turns out that Garrett sees me as - not exactly a father
figure, but as an authority figure. He's scared to form too
deep an attachment. The therapist did tell me that, while
Garrett would accept correction from me, I need to be very
careful, because Garrett is really both scared of sensitive.
That pretty much means that, for now at least, I can't tease him
at all, and even something like wrestling or birthday smacks
need to be very careful. He also told me that, while Garrett is
desperate for physical affection, and loves when I put my arm
around him, he's also scared by it. He sees how casually I hug
my kids and family and even a lot of their friends, and he wants
it, but it makes him uncomfortable.
I asked the therapist about charging Garrett's mother or
brother. He said he's handling the issue, but Garrett doesn't
want to right now. In Texas, we have until Garrett turns 28 to
pursue charges, so the therapist isn't pushing it just now - he
wants to get Garrett stable before the go back to that too hard.
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