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Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: TootsNYC Date: June 10, 2018, 6:54 pm
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There's an English comedian, Peter Key, who has a hysterical bit
(he has a Lancashire accent, but that doesn't play into why/how
he mishears things, except for one with "arseholes"; I mention
it bcs it's fun to listen to)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYorpYNMKc
#Post#: 5148--------------------------------------------------
Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: peony Date: June 11, 2018, 6:25 pm
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[quote author=Chez Miriam link=topic=295.msg4120#msg4120
date=1527870231]
"Anne-Marie's an elephant, playing in the band" instead of
"Tambourines and elephants are playin' in the band" on "Lookin�
Out My Back Door" by Creedence Clearwater Revival. I think my
husband used to hear "Bain-maries and elephants..."
I'm going to enjoy this thread!
[/quote]
Oops, I thought it was "memories and elephants." Tambourines
make much more sense.
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Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: cabbageweevil Date: June 12, 2018, 1:54 am
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=295.msg4610#msg4610
date=1528278802]
The ballad you're thinking of is 'The Bonny Earl o' Moray',
which begins:
'Ye Hielands and ye Lowlands,
O where hae ye been?
They have slain the Earl o' Moray
And laid him on the green.'
[/quote]
I've always wondered whether the original "Mondergreen" (the
supposed Lady M.'s sad demise, as well as that of the Earl) --
from the above stanza -- owed something to the perpetrator's
doing some confusing-and-conflating with another ballad: that of
"Little Musgrave and Lady Barnard". In which, Mr. Musgrave
cuckolds Lord Barnard; and things end very badly for both of the
transgressing lovers.
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Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: cabbageweevil Date: June 12, 2018, 2:39 am
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[quote author=Aleko link=topic=295.msg4610#msg4610
date=1528278802]
[snip] ...the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens... (His ship sank, and
his ballad ends 'Half owre, half owre to Aberdour / Tis forty
fathoms deep, / And there lies gude Sir Patrick Spens / With the
Scots lords at his feet.')
[/quote]
Topic-drifting somewhat: I'm reminded of the first verse of Sir
Patrick Spens:
The King sits in Dunfermline toun,
Drinking the blude-red wine;
"O whaur sall I get a skeely {=skilful} skipper
Tae sail this new ship of mine?"
The following, not truly a Mondergreen; rather, a deliberate
misunderstanding / corrupting of the words: generations of
English school-kids, given this ballad in its strange variety of
the language by their teachers to read; delighted in rendering
the last two words of line 3, as "scaly kipper" [smoked
preserved herring].
I have the feeling that the ballad of Sir Patrick was a "school"
thing for past generations rather than more recent times. In a
quiz / competition exercise on another board not long ago, I
alluded to it -- verse 1, as above; the board is frequented by
many perfectly intelligent, well-educated people -- however,
nobody had the slightest idea what I was on about. My brother, a
decade younger than me, is a very bright guy with a fine breadth
of interests; it turned out that he'd never heard of Sir Patrick
Spens either. I reckon that kids usually love this ballad when
they come across it: it's gruesome and silly, by turns -- right
up their street.
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Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: Gladly Date: June 12, 2018, 9:09 am
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Not Drum was heard, not a funeral note
As his horse on the rampart he curried.
from The Burial of Sir John Moore by Charles Wife
It should be:
Not Drum was heard, not a funeral note
As his corse on the rampart we hurried.
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Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: jpcher Date: June 12, 2018, 4:22 pm
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[quote author=TootsNYC link=topic=295.msg5059#msg5059
date=1528674840]
There's an English comedian, Peter Key, who has a hysterical bit
(he has a Lancashire accent, but that doesn't play into why/how
he mishears things, except for one with "arseholes"; I mention
it bcs it's fun to listen to)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYorpYNMKc
[/quote]
That was way too funny to just give it a "like" button. Thanks
for sharing the laughs! ;D
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Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: Mara Jade Date: June 29, 2018, 7:04 pm
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From "My Country 'Tis of Thee", instead of "Protect us by Thy
might", I sang it as "Protect us from dynamite." Made perfect
sense to first-grader me.
Oddly, I remember singing the first two lines from the first
verse, then the second section from the fourth verse, thusly:
My country tis of thee,
Sweet land of liberty,
Of thee I sing.
Long may our land be bright
With freedom's holy light;
Protect us by Thy might,
Great God, our King!
Anyone else sing it like that, or was it something just my
school did?
#Post#: 7357--------------------------------------------------
Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: TootsNYC Date: June 29, 2018, 10:32 pm
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I definitely remember "Our Fathers' God, to Thee, Author of
liberty, to Thee we sing."
#Post#: 7524--------------------------------------------------
Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: Twik Date: July 2, 2018, 10:31 am
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[quote author=cabbageweevil link=topic=295.msg5178#msg5178
date=1528789169]
[quote author=Aleko link=topic=295.msg4610#msg4610
date=1528278802]
[snip] ...the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens... (His ship sank, and
his ballad ends 'Half owre, half owre to Aberdour / Tis forty
fathoms deep, / And there lies gude Sir Patrick Spens / With the
Scots lords at his feet.')
[/quote]
Topic-drifting somewhat: I'm reminded of the first verse of Sir
Patrick Spens:
The King sits in Dunfermline toun,
Drinking the blude-red wine;
"O whaur sall I get a skeely {=skilful} skipper
Tae sail this new ship of mine?"
The following, not truly a Mondergreen; rather, a deliberate
misunderstanding / corrupting of the words: generations of
English school-kids, given this ballad in its strange variety of
the language by their teachers to read; delighted in rendering
the last two words of line 3, as "scaly kipper" [smoked
preserved herring].
I have the feeling that the ballad of Sir Patrick was a "school"
thing for past generations rather than more recent times. In a
quiz / competition exercise on another board not long ago, I
alluded to it -- verse 1, as above; the board is frequented by
many perfectly intelligent, well-educated people -- however,
nobody had the slightest idea what I was on about. My brother, a
decade younger than me, is a very bright guy with a fine breadth
of interests; it turned out that he'd never heard of Sir Patrick
Spens either. I reckon that kids usually love this ballad when
they come across it: it's gruesome and silly, by turns -- right
up their street.
[/quote]
I read Sir Patrick in university. Man, that was a long time ago.
#Post#: 7526--------------------------------------------------
Re: How About Some Mondergreens?
By: Twik Date: July 2, 2018, 10:33 am
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[quote author=Dr. F. link=topic=295.msg4739#msg4739
date=1528397472]
This one's pretty specific - I'm probably the only person who
hears this.
Scar Tissue by The Red Hot Chili Peppers has the line, "With the
birds I'll share this lonely viewin'" I invariably hear this as,
"With the Burgess Shale is a lonely view".
Note: the Burgess Shale is a large fossil deposit from about 500
million years ago in British Colombia. It has one of the best
records of the "Cambrian Explosion" in the diversity of marine
animals.
[/quote]
I�ve see pictures of the source of the Burgess Shale. It�s
indeed a lonely view.
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