Subj : Re: Due Process
To : DUMAS WALKER
From : Don Vally
Date : Wed Jun 25 2025 10:21 am
-=> Quoting Dumas Walker to Rug Rat <=-
> IJ> They are getting due process... The court they go through in an
> IJ> Immigration court and they see an Immigration Judge.
> He went in front of a judge in 2019. The judge ruled to "Withold removal"!
> ICE ignored this order and deported him anyway.. How is this due process?!
DW> It is a clever way to claim that the defendent got their due process
DW> while the current authorities totally disregard the results of that due
DW> process.
DW> It is also a fantasy-land response that ignores that allowing
DW> authorities to ignore due process, court orders, etc., means that it
DW> can also happen to any of us.
Warning - double ingorance.
In your opinion, and of course this is only my opinion. Apparently your
opinion of grave circumstances takes precedence. We all have our
'feelings'.
DW> Over time you will realize there are a lot of folks on fidonet that
DW> seems to understand the danger of setting bad legal precident, but only
DW> so long as it doesn't apply to something that someone they voted for is
DW> trying to do.
Over time...
DW> If you try to apply it to "their" leader, they either cannot or refuse
DW> to comprehend the potential fallout.
I like how you explain it as "their" leader. Everyone's an armchair lawyer
and a soothsayer to boot ~ since he's not "your" leader...
DW> As an aside, those same folks will also have grave comprehension
DW> issues when it comes to understanding why parts of the Constitution are
DW> worded to protect "people" while others are specific to "citizens." To
DW> them, "people" only are people if they are "citizens."
DW> For example, as a citizen, it will never occur to them that they might
DW> one day need to depend on their right to due process in order to be
DW> able to prove they are a citizen. They believe their word will protect
DW> them.
DW> That belief, of course, will change should the person they voted for
DW> not be the one that takes office. Then they will spend the next 4 or
DW> so years contradicting whatever they said/claimed during the previous 4
DW> or so years.
I find it funny that you mention this last bit, since it appears to apply
to you and your way of thinking. You are self describing, as it were...
But you don't realize it.
Have a great day!
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