Subj : Build Error on 1.0.6 with CentOS 7.1
To   : Alan Ianson
From : Eric Renfro
Date : Mon Sep 14 2015 04:00 pm

 Re: Build Error on 1.0.6 with CentOS 7.1
 By: Alan Ianson to Eric Renfro on Mon Sep 14 2015 11:52 am

AI> Hello Eric,

AI>>> I'm sure you'd like the mailer / ticer / tosser. In all my BBS
AI>>> travels that stays with me.. :)

ER>> Hehe. Well, I'm currently running Synchronet with Htick and BinkD,
ER>> which those are pretty nice, honestly. I even have a setup I'm
ER>> throwing together that's mail-only, no BBS, that'll be
ER>> BinkD+HPT+HTick+GoldED possibly JAMNNTPD, to access and verify
ER>> everything with.

AI> The BBS interface to mbse is pretty simple, as Michiel Broek says
AI> somewhere in the docs. He was just writing a plain and simple BBS that his
AI> BBS users were used to (at the time I guess) and that is what he did.

AI> The mailer / ticer / tosser is something else though.. ok, nuf said!

ER>> The one thing I truely do like about Synchronet is the fact it's
ER>> scripted with JavaScript, which is real-world usable stuff and very
ER>> easy to work with. I was able, thankks to Synchronet, tolearn
ER>> JavaScript for the first time ever and actually appreciate using it.

AI> Agreed.

ER>> So, I'm curious what MBSE is actually capable of, and how
ER>> customizable it is, and scriptable, and if it's scripting language
ER>> (if it has one), is worth using. :)

AI> I don't know how JavaScript works or if it could be used with MBSE.
AI> Michiel Broek did write a doorlib for MBSE though and a couple doors that
AI> work with it. One is called safe cracker, a simple number guessing game. A
AI> sample for programmers I think. And the note to next user door, provides
AI> much the same as synchronets auto message.

AI> There is no scripting language for the BBS, although AreaMgr and FileMgr
AI> auto responses are scripted with the help of diesel I think.

ER>> I would like to know a couple or a few publically accessible MBSE
ER>> systems out there, so I could check them out, too..

ER>> I want to see, first hand, what it's capable of as a user.

AI> I know one MBSE BBS called The Bit Bucket in Calgary that I call once in a
AI> while...

AI> bbs.thebitbucket.ca.

AI> I'm sure there are more but that's what I have off the top of my head.. :)

Hmmm.. Interesting. I just checked out that BBS as you mentioned it, and yeah.
Plain jane and simple. I did notice one issue on it though. During
registration, you create an account, one being a unix account, and then the BBS
utilizes that, but when choosing a handle... if you happen to try to use the
same name as your unix account /durint/ registration, it denies it claiming a
user already exists.. Chose to use none, then logged out and back in after the
process was complete, went to settings, selecting nmy handle, no problems.

That was MBSE 1.0.4.

Looks like MBSE has potential, but without a scripting language.... That urks
me a lot. Back in the day f me BBSing, I actually switched FROM Renegade to
Telegard, because Telegard had a real(ish) scripting language. I had gone from
RG->TG->RA because of potential powerful customization. The main reason I even
went to RA was because the specs for using everything from message format to
user and file databases, were completely open, and I already knew a crap ton of
Pascal.. So I ended up programming 50% or more of my BBS in my own custom
external processes that handled everything.

I don't want to do that again. That was a VERY heavy BBS for it's day, but it
/was/ extremely powerful none-the-less. People loved it, which is what was
important most of all.

Today, I use Synchronet, and likely going to continue doing so, simply because
it is so powerful yet so simple and lightweight at the same time. It has nearly
everything, minus the mailer itself, and ticcer, but BinkD and htick fill in
those two gaps, qico if you want too for ifcico. :)

And JavaScript, as mentioned before. I've already programmed at least one
publically distributed mod for Synchronet which is a lightbar driven new area
scan selector which is ever so wonderfully useful, ans I use it myself,
especially since I've been adding hundreds of message bases on my BBS lately.
:)

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