Subj : Echo Rules
To : Michiel van der Vlist
From : Lee Lofaso
Date : Fri Sep 20 2024 05:16 pm
Hello Michiel,
Mv>>> How do we know you are a sysop if you are not using the name as
Mv>>> listed in the nodelist?
RS>> I mean, a supersleuth here already pieced together my incredibly
RS>> secret pseudonym...
MvdV> He made an assumption.
We all make assumptions.
MvdV> Assumptions do not prove theories.
And yet some folks fall for them. Time and time again.
Such as the theory that high cholesterol is bad for your health.
Just because a health professional claims something to be true
does not mean that something actually is true.
MvdV> Your "confession" does not convince me either.
Years ago there was a sysop by the name of Bill Kochman who
claimed he was the moderator of the Edge Online echo. He was
an online preacher and enjoyed ranting about the end times.
After a few months, he got tired of posting messages in
Fidonet and nobody heard about him for a while.
MvdV> It you actually were a user posing as a sysop you would say the same...
A few years after the sysop by the name of Bill Kochman who
was the moderator of the Edge Online echo decided to return to
Fidonet, claiming to be the second coming of himself, but with
a new name of Jeff Snyder.
Not really sure if Bill Kochman was ever a sysop or just a
moderator, but did list himself as moderator of the Edge Online
echo for a while, so I will give him credit as moderator for
that brief period of time.
A few years later, the same individual decided to return as
moderator of the Edge Online echo, but under the name of Jeff
Snyder. And as a sysop in Guam. The Bill Kochman was still an
online preacher, and running the show.
After a while, the Jeff Snyder persona got tired of it, having
other things to do as the Bill Kochman online preacher in Florida.
Do realize, the two of them are one and the same.
Which one is real, and which one is fake, or both being fake,
who knows and who cares?
The End Times will come for all of us. Some sooner, and some later.
But believe you when I tell you, the End Times will come.
MvdV> My usual response tp messages with an alias in the message header is the
MvdV> "next" key. I made an excaption for you as you do not appear a "lost case".
Stephen King was never a "lost case" - even when he used a pen name.
"There are no more restrictions on what name you can use." ~Google
It is time for Fidonet sysops to join the rest of the world.
RS>> This was changed as a result of the initial response. I presume that
RS>> change was inadvertently reverted after making additions to message
RS>> bases.
RS>> I'll go take a look at that again now, because all Fido bases /should/ be
MvdV> set to disallow aliases.
MvdV> I am with you on this.
Facebook has gone the way of the dinosaur. Nobody uses that
platform due to its insistence on maintaining "real names" policies.
Is that what you want? As a community, Fidonet sysops are already
almost there.
MvdV> One of the nice things of Fidonet is that it is NOT the the "social media"
MvdV> on the Internet. And that includes the tradition of using real names.
Your position is laughable, to say the least. "Real names" policies
are not empowering, regardless of how you might feel. Such rules are
an assertionof power over vulnerable people. Does that make you feel
like a big man? To think you can lord it over somebody just because
you can?
MvdV> So I look forward to seeing your next message with a real name in the
MvdV> header.
What is the difference between real name and legal name?
In my part of the world, there are many people who have the same
surname. As well as the same first name. With no realistic way to
tell one from the other. I am certain this is true in other parts
of the world as well.
I have also stated previously, you do not have to use your legal
name anywhere outside of legal documents.
Courts have ruled that people must be allowed to sign up under
pseudonyms to comply with privacy law. This is true in Germany,
in the EU, and elsewhere.
Facebook is dead due to its own "real names" policies. Nobody
is interested in playing there any more. Not in today's world.
Your "tradition" has come to an end, the few who remain being
nothing but embers from what little remains.
A person's legal name is typically their personal name.
But is it? How can you, or anybody else, really know for sure?
Samuel Clemens comes to mind. So does Mark Twain. Others also
come to mind.
By your own admission, individuals are allowed to use whatever
name they want to list themselves as sysops. As long as such a
name passes your own sniff test, that is good enough for you.
Makes absolutely no difference if such a name is an actual
name in real life or not. As long as it seems to be a name
that might be real, that is good enough for you.
Now suppose that name was Mongolian. What are you gonna do?
Sign or list it with an X?
For Life,
Lee
--
The first thing a cult does is claim that everyone else is lying to you.
--- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
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