Subj : Re: Problem at your system
To   : Paul Hayton
From : Ward Dossche
Date : Sun Jan 22 2023 02:04 pm

Hey Paul,

PH> As far as I can tell you are sending me netmail addressed to 2:2/3.0 ...

Thank you for looking into this, but after this one single line you've already de-railed ... For test-purposes I created a new message and it is addressed to 3:770/100 .... This is how it looks ...

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Date: 22 Jan 23  12:41:57
From: Ward Dossche on 2:292/854  Many-Glacier (021) in Mortsel
 To: Paul Hayton on 3:770/100  Agency BBS in Dunedin
Subj: This is the ultimate test
____________________________________________________________________________
INTL 3:770/100 2:292/854
TZUTC: 0100
FLAGS A/S
It really is ...
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It gets delivered at 3:770/1 and within a second your system responds and sends the netmail below back to me ...

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Date: 22 Jan 23  12:41:56
From: Ward Dossche on 2:292/854  Many-Glacier (021) in Mortsel
 To: Paul Hayton on 2:2/3  Unlisted node in B
Subj: This is the ultimate test
____________________________________________________________________________
INTL 2:2/3 2:292/854
TZUTC: 0100
FLAGS A/S
It really is ...
Via 2:292/854@Ward_Dossche @20230122.114314.UTC O/T-Track+ 2.85
Via 3:770/1 @20230122.114948.UTC hpt/lnx 1.9 2022-07-03
Via 2:292/854 @20230122.125104 D'Bridge 4
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Note, the INTL-kludge has been altered from "3:770/100 2:292/854"
to "2:2/3 2:292/854" ....

Not only that, but the time-stamp of the netmail has been changed from "12:41:57" to "12:41:56".

I have delivered a netmail from you at Scott's system and it does not bounce back...

So, yes, there is a problem at your site and I suspect it is software related.

Zonegates are not an issue here, I have never used them, you cannot find them anywhere here, they were dropped from the nodelist here in March 2009.

It "is" a software-problem, or a case of set-up, on your side, Paul.

For the ones loving discussions, here's the log of my system delivering that netmail at Paul's system and the immediate return of the altered version.

********************** OUTGOING ***************************************
 22 Jan 12:49:47 [9732] trying agency.bbs.nz [2001:470:d:123::200]...
 22 Jan 12:49:47 [9732] connected
+ 22 Jan 12:49:47 [9732] outgoing session with agency.bbs.nz:24554 [2001:470:d:123::200]
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] OPT CRAM-MD5-6db1bd639153d8eea397573aef74adee
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] Remote requests MD mode
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] SYS Agency + Risa HUB
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] ZYZ Paul Hayton
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] LOC Dunedin, New Zealand
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] NDL 115200,TCP,CM,MO,IBN,BINKP,PING,IPv6
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] TIME Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:49:47 +1300
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] VER binkd/1.1a-115/Linux binkp/1.1
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 3:57/0@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 3:770/1@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 3:770/0@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 3:772/1@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 3:772/0@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 21:1/100@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 21:1/3@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 21:1/2@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 21:1/1@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 21:1/0@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 39:970/0@amiganet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] addr: 46:3/103@agoranet (n/a or busy)
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] TRF 0 0
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] Remote has 0b of mail and 0b of files for us
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] OPT EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] Remote requests CRYPT mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] Remote supports GZ mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] Remote supports BZ2 mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] pwd protected session (MD5)
- 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] session in CRYPT mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:48 [9732] sending C:\DB\BINKD\37701\01249331.PKT as 01249331.PKT (297)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:49 [9732] sent: C:\DB\BINKD\37701\01249331.PKT (297, 297.00 CPS, 3:770/1@fidonet)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:49 [9732] done (to 3:770/1@fidonet, OK, S/R: 1/0 (297/0 bytes))
 22 Jan 12:49:49 [9732] session closed, quitting...
*********************** INCOMING ******************************************
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [17944] incoming from 2001:470:d:123::200 (49182)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] incoming session with 2001:470:d:123::200
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] SYS Agency + Risa HUB
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] ZYZ Paul Hayton
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] LOC Dunedin, New Zealand
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] NDL 115200,TCP,CM,MO,IBN,BINKP,PING,IPv6
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] TIME Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:49:49 +1300
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] VER binkd/1.1a-115/Linux binkp/1.1
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 3:57/0@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 3:770/1@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 3:770/0@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 3:772/1@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 3:772/0@fidonet
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 21:1/100@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 21:1/3@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 21:1/2@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 21:1/1@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 21:1/0@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 39:970/0@amiganet (n/a or busy)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] addr: 46:3/103@agoranet (n/a or busy)
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ BZ2
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] Remote supports asymmetric ND mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] Remote requests CRYPT mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] Remote supports GZ mode
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] Remote supports BZ2 mode
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] TRF 0 428
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] Remote has 0b of mail and 428b of files for us
+ 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] pwd protected session (MD5)
- 22 Jan 12:49:50 [4872] session in CRYPT mode
- 22 Jan 12:49:51 [4872] receiving cd233f00.mo0 (428 byte(s), off 0)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:51 [4872] cd233f00.mo0 -> c:\db\inbound\cd233f00.mo0
+ 22 Jan 12:49:51 [4872] rcvd: cd233f00.mo0 (428, 428.00 CPS, 3:57/0@fidonet)
+ 22 Jan 12:49:51 [4872] done (from 3:57/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/1 (0/428 bytes))
 22 Jan 12:49:51 [4872] session closed, quitting...
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Please, Paul, no Roy Witt stuff here by turning the issue around, I've been too  long in this business to not understand it.

And don't take this personal ..

Take care,

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - MidniteSpecial
* Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)