Subj : FILEGATE.ZXX updates
To   : Janis Kracht
From : Vincent Coen
Date : Tue Jun 14 2022 06:58 pm

Hello Janis!

Monday June 13 2022 14:45, you wrote to me:

>  * Originally posted in the FILEGATE echo
>  * Originally posted to Vincent Coen by Janis Kracht
>  * CC'd in netmail to Ward Dossche for his perusal and comment,
> please.

> Hello Vincent!

>> Saturday June 11 2022 13:42, you wrote to me:

>>> ****    The IFDC FileGate is Copyright by Janis Kracht
>>> ****
>>> ****    The IFDC FileGate LOGO Image is Copyright by Janis Kracht
>>> ****
>>> ****    The IFDC FileGate system's file archive located in
>>> ****
>>> ****    Slaterville Springs NY, USA, is copyright Janis Kracht
>>> ****

>> Your point  ?

> I've worked with international copyright law for quite some time since
> I needed to do so in working with so many authors, Vincent.

1. Some of the above is not and cannot be copyright.
2. I have never made use of any logo's including any possible filegate's one's
   which I have never seen.
3. See 1. You cannot copyright a geographical address otherwise Google would
be
all over it.

Filegate you now say is copyright but all documentations at best within
Filegate shows only SM.   That is NOT a trademark NOR copyright and is not
International as it is not in the United Kingdom.

If you wish to quote the law you need to be very precise and accurate and the
above comments are NOT.

Not that I care one way or another.

> Here are some other statements you obviously ignore, which I can
> prove:

> I resigned Fidonet for two months, but did NOT resign as moderator
> (msg. echos: PDNECHO, FILEGATE, BBBS-ENGLISH, PRISM, RAR, FILE_MOVERS)
> and I did not resign as moderator/coordinator of a number of _file_
> echos (PDN, RAR for example). You just _took_ those file echos without
> even an email.

You resigned, period.

Now a few months later your reappeared slightly but with no information or
content as to what was / is happening with you.

During that time the members of the "Star" system took over and kept the
system
for both files and echo's running expending a great deal of time during a
normally very busy holiday period for some of us.


> THEN:  _YOU_ gave me exact instructions on HOW to correct these msg.
> area moderatorship errors so that your lists would reflect me as
> moderator/coordinator.  This involved my creating 3 copies of your
> TAGNAME.ECO files for the msg. echos, delivered directly to your
> 2:25/21 node...   Which I DID.

> Supposedly I would retain the position of modertor of those msg.
> echos, but

>        **It DID NOT WORK (look at your inane lists, Vincent)**
>         *This says something about your credibility, Vincent*

I supplied you precise instructions of how to do so the fact that you more
than
likely did not follow them is I am afraid down to you.

> Now, you and I discussed the idea along the way that you were knocking
> yourself out so to speak with all the "jobs" you are doing, and I
> offered to help out ... but then I saw the most recent of your
> BACKBONE.NA, and filegate.zxx files (filegate.zxx is MY ORIGINAL
> DOCUMENT, NOT YOURS.  This is covered under copyright laws regarding
> Intellectual Property in the United States.  If you want to use such a
> list come up with your OWN name!  Same with the FileGate Distribution,
> come up with your OWN name!!)

> What would I like to resolve at least SOME OF THIS CRAP VINCE??

> 1. Give me back my msg. echos as listed above.  And don't tell me to
> create some idiotic .ECO files or whatever, just make the f'n changes
> already.

You must follow the correct elist procedures.

> 2. Give me back the PDN and Rar file distribution.  The PDN has never
> been the victim of a takeover like you pulled off here...

Rar was abandoned for some considerable time so I starting looking after it
and
yes spending some valuable time to do so.
You wish it back - fine I care not - providing you keep on top of it!



If, you warn to take back operations for FILEGATE and or any other processes
that you did have prior to 29th December 2021 let me know.

I am getting to 75 in June 23rd so I can think of other stuff that can take up
my time although that said, the filegate is now very light traffic but it was
the same when you had it.

As for various echo's, suggest you send in file submissions for each area
after advising me that your wish to do so for each area that is in the Elist
moderator lists.

These submissions must be sent to 2:25/21.

I WILL NOT change them for you or any one else otherwise I will get a flood of
requests to do similar for others.

The Elist system is now on it's own platform and nodelist entry and run in
full
auto mode so file submissions are the only way for mods to deal with it.

Failing that, I will allow all such areas to lapse to revert to backbone
status
only.

Should you take these processes back I will NOT be your back up should you
again shut down, close services or for any other reason.

As Mark, Terry,  Carol and Dallas and myself had to spend considerable time
dealing with the fall out, over your very short notice of termination of all
services !


Vincent

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