Subj : FidoNet Nodelist Database
To   : Karel Kral
From : Dmitry Protasoff
Date : Fri Aug 01 2025 03:03 pm

Hello, Karel!

Friday August 01 2025 09:56, you wrote to me:

DP>> For example, some Nodelists are missing Z1 entirely (or some nets
DP>> and regions), sometimes nodes are duplicated and so on. I'm
DP>> working on providing some solution for these issues, but it'll
DP>> take a while since it's not a top priority right now.

KK> For me - looks like - is still in beta shape. (not ready even for UAT
KK> ;-)

Of course, it's in the beta stage, but it's API and database are already being used by my software.
Thanks to the beta testers, I've already fixed most of the bugs.

But what was the alternative? https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/ has a lot of the same nodelist issues.
It's development has stopped and the chances of getting new features are close to zero.

DP>> I do! I need it for my new echo reader. And also to get some fun.
DP>> For example: https://nodelist.fidonet.cc/analytics

KK> Again - I understand your fun factor - but, somehow odd technology (as
KK> Fidonet is) kept the way of communication between us. Some
KK> dictatorships are trying to replace communication between people with
KK> their own agenda. To break fidonet connections will be easier for
KK> government - if API exists.

You can download this software and use it locally - source code and binaries are freely available for Windows, Linux and macOS (x64/ARM).
I'll share the DuckDB file once the database structure is stable, for anyone who just wants to analyze the data without spending time importing the nodelist files (it takes about 20 minutes for Clickhouse and >2 hours for DuckDB on modern Ryzen CPU).

I know that a large number of nodes and points don't even use a fresh nodelist, because there's no easy way to update it automatically.

The problem with Fidonet is that it's stuck using old technologies, which are very bad at bypassing modern firewalls and government restrictions.
It's very easy to block BinkP. It has no modern encryption. Modem connections are already unreliable because of VoIP.

But I hope that will change soon (TBA) ;)

Best regards,
            dp.

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