Subj : Re: The US election
To   : jimmylogan
From : Rob Swindell
Date : Fri Nov 08 2024 01:19 am

 Re: Re: The US election
 By: jimmylogan to Rob Swindell on Thu Nov 07 2024 06:59 pm

>  RS> It's not a child. It's an embryo or at most, a fetus: not a soul that's
>  RS> going to go to heaven and live with Jesus or angels if it's aborted.
>  RS> It's a bunch of cells with the *potential* to be a human, that's it.
>  RS> Your smegma also has the potential to be be human: should we "defend"
>  RS> that potential life by passing/enforcing laws that prevent your blowing
>  RS> your load unless it is to make another (presumably God-fearing) human?
>
> How do you define embryo or fetus?

I'm fine with the standard definition used by biologists.

> I say it's a stage of development. You
> are also a bunch of cells. What stage of development are you?

I'm an adult.

> Embryo, fetus, something else, baby, toddler, pre-teen, teen, adolescent,
> adult, elderly - they describe development, but they all have one thing
> in common. They are human beings.
>
> If an embryo or fetus is not a human being, then what is it?

It's a human embryo or fetus. These are kind of elementary questions you're asking.

>  RS> I think we collectively make humans at a fast enough rate already, we
>  RS> don't need superstition-based laws insuring we make more unwanted/loved
>  RS> ones.
>
> Then why not start killing off the excess after birth too?

Why change the subject? We're talking about abortion of embryos or fetuses, not born-live human babies.

>  RS> An aborted embryo or fetus makes the uterus available for the creation
>  RS> of another, more planned/wanted/loved child. What's more important: 1.
>  RS> an unwanted embryo/fetus 2. a wanted child?
>
> You have a baby and find out it is autistic and probably will never talk.
> What's more important, keeping that unwanted child or tossing it aside
> and trying again?

You want to kill learning disabled children? You're sick.

>  RS> The wanted child is less likely to steal your car, rape your wife or
>  RS> shoot up your schools. Let's have more of those children and fewer of
>  RS> the kind you want to "defend" through laws. --
>

> Couple of things - superstition based laws - so I take it you don't believe
> that we are created in the image of God?

No, there is no god, yours or any other religion's: Gods are constructions of human imagination, not unlike the gods of Greek mythology or any other discarded belief system. I expect this will be offensive to you (and possibly other believers), but you since you asked, there it is.

> What do you believe? Random chance and evolution?

I believe that more than some old man in the clouds that judges us and controls our fate and some fantasy afterlife.

> That leads to the answer of the 'wanted' child and society, so answer that
> one first please.

It seems you want to change the subject or topic. You said you voted for an immoral disgusting narcisist to lead our country because he's promised that he'll continue to strip the rights of women to control their own reprodutive organs, justified by the teachings of Jesus? That seems like a sick hypocrisy. But you do you.
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