Subj : SBBS/W32 Kermit setup
To   : Win-32 SysOps
From : Michel Samson
Date : Tue Oct 05 2004 02:05 pm

Hello `SynchroNet' SysOps,      [WARNING - This post is 325 lines long!]

    1st of all, this is a one-time post and hence there's no need to go
wild and stretch the thread forever (i'm very well aware of how `Kermit'
and its users are perceived on `FidoNet' already, just don't remind me).

    2nd, i read the rules posted by Sean Dennis and my present topic is
not in contradiction with it but i'd try elsewhere if a more appropriate
echo exists (i'm sorry, i haven't read all the echo-rules in existance).

    With this being said, i intend to welcome SysOps who have interrest
in INSTALLATION of `Kermit' or RELATED TOPICS so i'd be glad to agree on
cooperation but i'm not willing to launch a discussion of which the sole
purpose is to justify the use of `Kermit'.  Now, here's some background.

    A long time ago, the author of `SynchroNet' made me post a `Kermit'
configuration-file only to reject it on first sight, he prefered his own
because it was simpler and finally published that instead.  As a result,
it's the 2nd time this year i hear of some BBS where the SysOp failed to
obtain suitable `Kermit' support by using the `Kermit' setup released by
Rob Swindell!!!  So, i decided it was time for me to compile any usefull
information and post *MY* self-documentary revised version.  A BBSer who
wishes to evaluate `Kermit' endures frustration coming from all sides as
few ~TelNet~ applications support `Kermit' adequately (including `Hyper-
Terminal).  There's the option of using Columbia's OFFICIAL SoftWare but
`Win-32' users will find that `K95' is $hareWare (twenty-one days trial)
so they'll have to find something else.  Eventually, motivated `Windows'
BBSers discover Wayne Warthen's `Kermit for Windows' (it's available for
both 16-Bits and 32-Bits `Windows' OSes).  This is FreeWare (good news!)
but i'm concerned:  Rob's `Kermit' setup makes it abort pronto and users
have their session hanged forever!  My name has been associated with it,
my post isn't about persons but it's called sabotage and whatever i do i
like to do it with pride...  I intend to address this severe reliability
issue, whatsoever.  This is about driver installation, trouble happening
while trying to have it supported (few authors/SysOps provide a `Kermit'
option by default in their SoftWare), euh...  and now here's one remedy:


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; `MSK.INI' - `SBBS/W32' support for `Kermit' using `MS-Kermit v3.16'
;
;
;
; Suggested presentation
; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
;    UpLoad:
;
;         [X]MoDem           [Y]MoDem            [Z]MoDem
;         Kermit [7]-Bit Binary                  [K]ermit Binary
;
;
;    DownLoad:
;
;         [X]MoDem           [Y]MoDem            [Z]MoDem
;         [K]ermit Binary    Kermit [R]ecovery   Kermit [T]ext
;
;
;
; Drivers & Clients
; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
;    `MS-Kermit' for `DOS' can be found here:
;
;         ftp://netlab1.usu.edu/pub/kermit/MSK316.ZIP
;         http://netlab1.usu.edu/pub/kermit/MSK316.ZIP
;          (1M03, October 12, 2003)
;
;         ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/msk314.zip
;          (677 Kb, November 7, 2002 - updated documentation)
;
;         ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/msk315.zip
;          (480 Kb, September 17, 1997)
;
;
; N.B.:  Rename `Kermit.EXE' as `MSK.EXE' to help the command-lines fit!
;
;
;
;    Wayne Warthen's `Kermit for Windows' FreeWare can be found here:
;
;         ftp://kermit.wwarthen.com/pub/KermWin/Files/v085/kw16v085.exe
;          (159 Kb, January 8, 1998) - Win-16
;
;         ftp://kermit.wwarthen.com/pub/KermWin/Files/v085/kw32v085.exe
;          (238 Kb, January 8, 1998) - Win-32
;
;
;
;    `C-Kermit v5A(191)' for `OS/2' can be found here:
;
;         ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/cko191.zip
;          (620 Kb, April 24, 1995)
;
;
;
; Installation
; ~~~~~~~~~~~~
;         Open the `Synchronet Control Panel' ([Alt]+[B]), press [C] (to
;    enter `SCFG'), select `Configure', press [F], [F], [Enter] (to open
;    `File Options' then add the `Kermit' command-lines in the `Transfer
;    Protocols' section ([T], [T], [Enter])...  Use these samples below:
;
;
;
; `SynchroNet' Menus
; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
;         DownLoad (User-Send):     UpLoad (User-Receive):
;
;         Kermit Binary             Kermit Binary
;         Kermit Recovery           Kermit 7-Bits Binary
;         Kermit Text
;
;
;______________________________________________[ UpLoad Command Lines ]_
;
;         Kermit Binary Receive:
;         %!MSK Set Port FOSSIL 1, Take %!MSK.INI, BRcv %~
;
;         Kermit Worst-Case Binary Receive:
;         %!MSK Set Port FOSSIL 1, Take %!MSK.INI, BRcv7 %~
;
;
;____________________________________________[ Download Command Lines ]_
;
;         Kermit Binary Send:
;         %!MSK Set Port FOSSIL 1, Take %!MSK.INI, BSnd %~
;
;         Kermit Recovery Send:
;         %!MSK Set Port FOSSIL 1, Take %!MSK.INI, RSnd %~
;
;         Kermit Text Send:
;         %!MSK Set Port FOSSIL 1, Take %!MSK.INI, TSnd %~
;
;
;________________________________________________[ Debug Command Line ]_
;
;         Kermit Terminal:
;         %!MSK Set Port FOSSIL 1, Take %!MSK.INI, Stay
;
;
;
; `Kermit' configuration
; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
;Set Port \%p                      ; Set Port/Line according to variable
Set ErrorLevel 255                 ; Set this for a *CANCELED* transfer.
ClS                                ; Clear the screen - for manual mode.
Log Session c:\sbbs\data\Capture.LOG ; Try to have session records handy
Log Transactions c:\sbbs\data\Kermit.LOG ; (must use TWO SEPARATE FILES)
                                  ;  re-work needed here, not critical.
Set Window 5                       ; Try values between 6 and 32 (max.)!
Set Parity None                    ; ~RS-232~/~BIOS INT-14~ serial-port:
                                  ;  the data format should be "8N1"...
Set Block-Check-Type 3             ; This is similar to CRC-16 checksum;
                                  ;  sufficient since Error Detection &
                                  ;  Correction often occurs elsewhere.
Set Streaming On                   ; This feature works with v3.16 only;
                                  ;  functions correctly over ~TelNet~!
Set Carrier On                     ; Immediately recover from hangups if
                                  ;  well supported in the BBS program.
Set Flow None                      ; Seems OKay for this particular use.
Set Bell Off                       ; The BBS may ring a bell of its own.
;Set HandShake None                ; Maybe that's something to be tried;
;Set Delay 0                       ;  and perhaps this other line too...
Set File Display Quiet             ; Skip file transfer display (BBSes).
Set Exit Warning Off               ; Don't ask for confirmation on exit.
;
Set Local Off                      ; The following items are usefull for
Set Prompt Kermit>                 ;  those who are using `MS-Kermit' as
Set Term ANSI                      ;  a terminal emulation program.  The
Set Term Cursor Block              ;  needs and taste of the users vary.
Set Display Regular 8-Bit          ;  I recommend these parameters for a
Set Terminal ByteSize 8            ;  reminder only, use as you see fit!
;
Set Terminal APC Off               ; *SECURITY!*  Verify and activate as
Disable All                        ;  you see fit, ignore ALL the Server
                                  ;  commands and re-enable SEPARATELY.
Enable Finish                      ; Allow Transfer Interruption (safe).
;Enable Get                        ; Allow Receive Request (maybe safe).
;Enable Send                       ; Allow Send Request, SAFETY-CHECKED?
Disable Query                      ; Remote queries:  see documentation.
;Enable Define                     ; Idem. - Check when "Define" needed.
;Enable Kermit                     ; Allow remote *SERVER* features, the
                                  ;  BBS Users/SysOps must be carefull.
;Enable Retrieve                   ; Read documentation before anything!
Disable Assign                     ; No effect whenever disabled before.
Disable Message                    ; Idem, i show it as a reminder only.
Set Send PathNames Off             ; Don't Send everything they ask for!
Set Receive PathNames Off          ; It will protect `Command.COM', etc.
                                  ;  N.B.:  a change of directory would
                                  ;  be possible via the "CWD" command.

; Macros allow command-line brevity.
;
Define BSnd Set File Type -        ; No character translation is wanted.
Binary, Set Send Packet 9024, -    ; Users can negociate lower values...
Set Control UnPreFixed All, -      ; This is how to optimize `Kermit' so
Set Control PreFixed 0 1 129, -    ;  that it works better via ~Telnet~.
Send \%1, -                        ;  That's the BEST-CASE SCENARIO, try
-                                  ;  0 1 3 13 17 19 129 131 141 145 147
                                  ;  only when it's required.  Transmit
If Success Set ErrorLevel 0, -     ;  and adjust ErrorLevel before exit.
Write Transaction \32\32\v(cps) -  ; Save the final transfer rate to the
cps\13\10, Close Transactions, -   ;  transactions record then quit log.
Close Session, Exit                ; The ReSend feature isn't compatible
                                  ;  with the Wayne Warthen `Kermit for
                                  ;  Windows (16/32) v0.85' FreeWare!!!

Define RSnd Set File Type -        ; No character translation is wanted.
Binary, Set Send Packet 9024, -    ; Users can negociate lower values...
Set Control UnPreFixed All, -      ; This is how to optimize `Kermit' so
Set Control PreFixed 0 1 129, -    ;  that it works better via ~Telnet~.
ReSend \%1, -                      ;  That's the BEST-CASE SCENARIO, try
-                                  ;  0 1 3 13 17 19 129 131 141 145 147
                                  ;  only when it's required.  Transmit
If Success Set ErrorLevel 0, -     ;  and adjust ErrorLevel before exit.
Write Transaction \32\32\v(cps) -  ; Save the final transfer rate to the
cps\13\10, Close Transactions, -   ;  transactions record then quit log.
Close Session, Exit                ; The ReSend feature isn't compatible
                                  ;  with the Wayne Warthen `Kermit for
                                  ;  Windows (16/32) v0.85' FreeWare!!!

Define TSnd Set File Type -        ; Character translation is allowed...
Text, Set Send Packet 9024, -      ; Users can negociate lower values...
Set Control UnPreFixed All, -      ; This is how to optimize `Kermit' so
Set Control PreFixed 0 1 129, -    ;  that it works better via ~Telnet~.
Send \%1, -                        ;  That's the BEST-CASE SCENARIO, try
-                                  ;  0 1 3 13 17 19 129 131 141 145 147
                                  ;  only when it's required.  Transmit
If Success Set ErrorLevel 0, -     ;  and adjust ErrorLevel before exit.
Write Transaction \32\32\v(cps) -  ; Save the final transfer rate to the
cps\13\10, Close Transactions, -   ;  transactions record then quit log.
Close Session, Exit                ; ReSend is unavailable in Text mode.

Define BRcv Set File Type -        ; No character translation is wanted.
Binary, Set Receive Packet 9024, - ; Users can negociate lower values...
Set Control UnPreFixed All, -      ; This is how to optimize `Kermit' so
Set Control PreFixed 0 1 17 19 -   ;  that it works better via ~Telnet~.
129, Set Attribute Date Off, Set - ; Enable transfer recovery, fix a Y2K
File Incomplete Keep, Set File -   ;  related problem.  Give enough time
Collision UpDate, Pause 3, -       ;  for the user to type in the UpLoad
Receive \%1, If Success Set -      ;  command and then start transfer...
ErrorLevel 0, Write Transaction -  ;  Adjust ErrorLevel before exit, get
\32\32\v(cps) cps\13\10, Close -   ;  transfer rate on record, quit log.
Transactions, Close Session, Exit

Define BRcv7 Set Term Byte 7, BRcv ; Experimental - worst case scenario.

Define Stay NOP                    ; Don't transfer, (local debug mode).

Def AppendCPS Write Transaction \32\32\v(cps) cps\13\10 ; Manual record.

ClS                                ; Display useful setup information...
Echo \13\10\32\32Port is:  \v(line)
Echo \32\32.INI is:  \v(cmdfile)\13\10
Echo Memory is:
Show Mem
Echo \13

;                                -=*=-

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    The present .INI isn't the final answer, more `Kermit' features are
waiting to be exploited but i'm only a BBSer and adventurous SysOps seem
to be rare these days...  In particular, error trapping must be verified
since it doesn't help to have a sturdy protocol driver if interfacing to
the BBS SoftWare is loosely done;  i'm thinking of false message-pointer
UpDates in .QWK doors, in particular.  If you can handle the BBS side of
it and you wish to give `Kermit' a try let me hear about you;  we'll get
some team-work together and i hope a "Ready-Made" kit will be published,
eventually, so that your SysOp fellows can benefit from the work which i
and a few others have done already.  Ultimately, i'd like a version with
support specific to other BBS SoftWare as well (`WC!-4' is one of them).

    DialUp BBSing is practically dead, ~TelNet~ BBSing replaced it when
High-Speed INet access arrived and now it seems ~WiFi~ might be the next
step but some people foresee that noise may very well make our .QWK file
transfers look like those of the good old days when DialUp BBSing ruled!

    `Kermit' is built with noise in mind so give it a thought or two...

    Systematic objectors, `Kermit' bashers, ill-behaved individuals and
similar are advised to remain silent;  i have no spare-time to spend for
demolition artists, i prefer constructive contributions.  Those who must
get their dose of anthropomorphism are invited to visit the ~URL~ below:

         http://www.spacedaily.com/news/iss-03zq.html

    If you're one of those who `Kermit' spells turn into baboons, well,
just proceed to the next post and forget it or aim higher:  take note of
the link i'm inclosing above, quit your reader and try a professional!!!

    To those who worked with me on `Kermit' installs and who were truly
motivated in making it work, your present moderator being one of them, i
must express my gratitude, even if none of these cooperations i've lived
thru since '98 were brought to the full conclusion...  The opportunities
seemed rare, sometimes it's been difficult to understand what each other
needs but my present .INI gets closer to a "Ready-Made" kit all the time
so i'll say thanks!  I believe our readers can transpose it to their own
BBS SoftWare without too much work by now, success seems to be at reach!

                                 8-)

    I'm posting this like a bottle to the sea...  No favourable replies
are expected.  It won't even matter that i don't get feedback, actually:
i must confess i'm satisfied enough that i've done my share as a *USER*!

    I seek no personal support.  Thom Lacosta, Jerry Schwartz and a few
other SysOps/moderators have been contemplative every time an obstructor
interveined (which is a nice way to put it), after all, euh...  I advise
the `Kermit' users to avoid being marginalized too, the human side of me
would apreciate moral support but Dog Fights are most unproductive - and
especially when the `FdN' staff is taking bets in the background!!!  ;->

    If all this sounds like blasphemy, please, proceed:  push "NEXT"...

                                   Salutations,

                                   Michel Samson
                                   a/s Bicephale
                                   http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/


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