Subj : Re: obamas gun fight
To   : Lee Lofaso
From : alexander koryagin
Date : Mon Jan 25 2016 10:29 am

Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 24.01.2016 19:07

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 BA>>> Tanks and bombers are pretty much useless in an urban
 BA>>> environment - unless the government wants to alienate the rest of
 BA>>> the people. They're pretty much useless in jungles and forests,
 BA>>> too. We should have learned that in Vietnam and you should have
 BA>>> learn ed it in Afghanistan.
 ak>> It is not correct. The Afghan and Vietnam rebel success has some
 ak>> sense only when they receive multi-billion military help and other
 ak>> high-tech equipment for fighting planes, tanks etc. The success of
 ak>> Taliban fighters now is due to they have in their hands "help"
 ak>> originated both from the USA and the USSR. ;)

 LL> It is all blowback. In regards to Afghanistan, the people in that
 LL> area of the world have not changed much, if at all, in centuries.
 LL> Rudyard Kipling wrote about them, his description just as relevant
 LL> today as in his own time.

Simply Afghanistan is a perfect place for a guerilla war. As well as
Vietnam is. If some countries provide these people with a lot of weapon
to defeat them impossible.

 LL> Vietnam (Indochina) cannot be viewed in the same light as
 LL> Afghanistan, as it was more of a real country with a people with
 LL> shared values.

What do you mean? There were a many South Vietnamese who fought against
North.

 LL> The one common element between Afghanistan and Vietnam is the
 LL> people of those places are still there, whereas the invading armies
 LL> have all gone home.

 LL> In Afghanistan, the people called the invaders "red monkeys". In
 LL> Vietnam, the people called the invaders "white monkeys". But other
 LL> than that, everything was the same.

Red monkey? What monkeys are in Afghanistan now? ;-) As for "white
monkeys" in Vietnam I have strong doubts: after all the Russians who
fought in Vietnam were white. ;)

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 ak>>>> If a person hasn't been in a mental hospital during his life it
 ak>>>> doesn't mean he is healthy mentally. That is the way how
 ak>>>> nutcases acquire submachine guns.

 BA>>> Submachine guns and "assault rifles" are just bullet hoses. They
 BA>>> are notoriously inaccurate. An experienced shooter can do far
 BA>>> more damage - from a much greater distance - with a scoped big
 BA>>> game rifle, and have little "collateral damage."

If you were right the soldiers would fight with simple rifles today, not
with submachine guns. Rifles are more effective and accurate. ;-)

 ak>> But submachine guns are perfect weapon for mass murders.
 LL> Most mass murderers who choose to use submachine guns also carry
 LL> other weapons as well. They want something that works. Not
 LL> something that will jam. And they also want something that can be
 LL> used with some degree of accuracy. Besides, not many mass murderers
 LL> can afford the high cost of submachine guns, much less the ammo...

They carry with them all the weapon they can find.

 ak>> If the Americans buy such things it means that the criminal
 ak>> situation is similar to Intifada in Israel. ;)

 LL> Schoolkids armed with rocks, showing off their pitching skills to
 LL> major league baseball scouts. It is their way out of poverty,
 LL> unnerstan'?

The longer this situation will last the better players will appear. ;=|

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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