Subj : Nothing in Outbound Area ?
To   : Peter Knapper
From : Mvan Le
Date : Wed Sep 13 2006 06:07 am

ML> So how do I send netmail (to my NC) if I haven't
ML> got a FidoNet address ?

PK> If you don't have a Fidonet address then you don't have
PK> an NC, because you do not have a Nodelisting. When you
PK> wish to apply for a Node number, then your have 2 main
PK> methods you can follow -
PK>   1. Follow the method described in the Fidonet Policy4
PK> document (this method ensurs that you HAVE read P4).

The last time I read P4 10 years ago it said send a netmail to the NC with
name, number, location, software details and wait 2 weeks for further
instructions.

The last time I did that I used FrontDoor 2.12 which had no problems polling
other systems using a 0:0/0 origin.

Policy 4, Section 2.2 - "How to Obtain a node number" does not require a valid
node address to send netmail to the NC for a FidoNet application.

PK> The entire process is designed to demonstrate that you
PK> know HOW to use your Software and follow instructions.

I'm at the stage where I have everything configured, but BinkleyTerm refuses
to work with an unlisted address and there isn't a configuration option to
turn this restriction off, which seems counter productive to me.

ML> Impersonating an existing address works.

PK> That is considered extremely bad and could trigger
PK> alarms of malicious intent, and preclude the issuing of
PK> a Node address. It is not recommended.

0:0/0 or -1/-1 shouldn't / can't be routed as echomail anyway so I don't know
what the fuss is about.

ML> When not specifying an "Address" statement in
ML> Binkley.cfg the default node is Node: 1:65535/65535.

PK> That is a "default" settng that does not allow you to
PK> do much other than at least see if Binkley runs. When
PK> that no. is used Binkley ignores anything in your
PK> Outbound because it knows you should have a valid
PK> address.

I might look into BinkD and bypass BinkleyTerm altogether.

Nobody uses dialup anymore.

I just waned BinkleyTerm to show me what's waiting in the outbound area so I
could verify the packing process, and study how BSO worked. I don't really need
it to send mail. It just looks good. I'll just use BinkD.

ML> And if I use an unlisted address BinkleyTerm exits with
ML> "System misconfigured or no entry in Nodelist":

PK> Because you need to work out how to create a Nodelist
PK> that is VALID for the purposes you need.

That seems strange to me because that sounds like the NC's job.

The applicant shouldn't be tampering with the nodelist.

:)

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