Subj : Offline Mail Reader
To   : Jon Watson
From : mark lewis
Date : Sat Oct 09 2004 02:42 pm

JW> mark lewis wrote to Jon Watson:

ml>>  JW> and use a 3GL to code a console app?

ml>> 3GL? good grief! what's wrong with 1GL or 2GL stuffs?
ml>> and i see things now about 4GL and even 5GL <shaking head>

JW> Purist...  :)

OB-)

JW> I can immediately see this conversation isn't going
JW> anywhere....I'll bow out now to save the electrons :)

'k...

ml>> i might drop by and check it out... what method have you employed in
ml>> getting them available via a browser?? remember, the WEB is html/http
ml>> stuff /only/ ;)

JW> I use Irex to gate from Echo <-> Email and then PHP scripts to
JW> manually rip and write to the mail spools and, of course, MySQL
JW> to insert into the forums. I'm running a SMF forum package (the
JW> old YABBSE software).

interesting...

JW> Umm...don't understand why you commented about html/http
JW> only.....what are you getting at?

oops... that should have only been http... the point is that the WWW (aka web)
only makes use of the http protocol... anything else is not the web but simply
a use of the internet ;)

JW> The duplication thing took me a few days to figure out) how
JW> to avoid it, that is. I just finished converting the ugly
JW> BBCode quote style to a nice FTN style that won't make
JW> people puke when they read it and I think the last thing on
JW> my list is threading.

sounds like a lot of work... especially considering having to learn someone
else's coding methods and logic flow  and then having to rip it apart to adjust
to perform differently... yeah, i've done it many times in the past and i still
hate it... i'd rather code it clean from the ground up... if for no other
reason than to know that the bugs are mine and i'm the one to blame and fix
them ;)

JW> FTNs aren't threaded, I know, but most (mine is no exception)
JW> web forum software is.

hunh? all my stuff works on threads... i use JAM bases and they are threaded on
the MSGID/REPLY lines... definitely not on the subject line <<GG>>  my stuff
also purges on the date of /arrival/ and not the date in the message header ;)

JW> Problem is that in fixing the ugly BBCode quote problem
JW> mentioned above - the original SMF message ID is gone -
JW> thus the child/parent link used for threading is also
JW> gone.

can't carry the MSGID/REPLY control lines over via X- header lines and use
them? should be able to...

JW> I could just put matching subjects together and except for
JW> the test echoes that would probably work....dunno yet -
JW> have to think more about it.

that would work... that's how things were done for many years before true
threading came around ;)

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