Subj : [--- Talk ---]
To   : Steven Horn
From : Winston Smith
Date : Fri Mar 21 2003 04:16 am

No! No! No!
I'm not talking about the node list listing....
I am talking about the Mailer Footer!
Sorry!  I forgot that those are added by the outgoing mailer and not
actually seen by the poster....  My mistake.  I should have been more
explicit.  I do not expect the FidoNET nodelisting to be *ACCURATE* ...
especially in Zone 1 !  It hasn't been accurate since the late '80s!
I think you use timEd ...  hold on a minute while I paste in the footer:

-> -!- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
-> * Origin: northof60.tzo.com, Whitehorse, YT, Canada (1:17/67)

The word 'mailer' and 'binkp' are just suggestions....
Why does Michel always assume that I am Charles or you, and now I guess
you assume that I am Michel.  I am *only* making a suggestion.  From the
mailer footer above I assumed the posting came from a BBS.  I am not
asking you to do a blessed thing; I am merely citing an example of how
Phil Simpson's "Swills" system does it.  I wasted an entire month trying
to connect to "Write By Night" and I wasted a month of my time before
that trying to connect to "Sparkys".  Both were HTTP mailers, but this
was noted exactly *NOWHERE* in their postings or their listings or their
footers.  Why did I assume that they were BBSes ?  Because my
neighborhood nodelist 1:322/* list M.S.I. Code-Runner TBBS, a board that
hasn't been up for over a decade!  It lists an NC of "The Software
Exchange", a Sysop who has been living on the opposite coast for nine
months!  It lists "The Caldron", whose Sysop had a heart attack and took
his board down two years ago!  Lost Crypt lists a phone line when the
BBS has been telnet only for the past three years.  Nobody seems to care
if a board is up or down, they just want the regional votes apparently.
When a BBS doesn't behave as expected from the nodelist information, I
can not take the results as gospel.  How do I determine if a posted
footer is a mailer or a BBS ?  The FidoNET node listing is no help.  The
entries are not individually date stamped and the information in Zone 1
is inaccurate!  The Postmaster and the Sysop each have to give me a
clue, because I am not going to get it from the stale nodelist
entries....

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