Subj : LSPPPDlr 2003
To   : MATT GILBERT
From : MICHEL SAMSON
Date : Mon Dec 06 2004 08:30 am

Hi Matt,

    About "LSPPPDlr 2003" of December 5:

MG> Tell me more about your 'commo' program...
MS> ...`{Commo}' ISN'T FROM ME...
MG> ...I ask a little tolerance and leeway...

    Granted.  I've been the moving target of others so often these late
years i regularily feel the need for this myself!  %-)  Most of the guys
who address me usually sound like they've been "prepared" so i can't but
welcome you...  8-)  Anyway, i believe the thread can be read from here:

         http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/dos_internet
         http://www.fidonet.m.nu/echomail/area/DOS_INTERNET/LIST=1

MG> ...the next thing I know I've got people jumping all over me for
MG> saying the wrong thing in the wrong post at the wrong time...

    That feels familiar enough for me who has been posting on `FidoNet'
for some time, which is why i refrained from warning you against using a
`BBBS', `WildCat!' or similar pre-1985 3rd-party `Kermit' implementation
when i read you about "Kermit for DOS" being "painfully slow":  having a
chance to correspond with DOS LEGACY BBSers like myself is so unique the
warning could wait my next post i thought!  It's refreshing reading you.

                                 8,-b

MG> ...if there is something that I, or someone else doesn't know,
MG> should we be afraid to ask a question?

    If my reply makes you uncomfortable there's something wrong, either
you never heard of me or what you know is somewhat biased...  `LSPPPDlr'
wouldn't still be On-Line today if i didn't really want to save you from
the frustration;  ask me questions and i'll answer as honestly as i can.

MG> ...trying to figure out a way to dial up my ISP using a DOS ppp
MG> connection and telnetting into a BBS and being able to go to the
MG> files area and download using zmodem is something I've been
MG> intrigued about for a long time.  I really have to struggle...

    An image is worth a thousand words.  You'll find that your transfer
rates depend on the ~ISP~, the HardWare/SoftWare and the BBS being used;
i've been lucky with all my ~ISP~s since none of them disabled a packet-
driver by doing validation via ~MS-CHAP~ exclusively (it isn't supported
by `EPPPD'/`LSPPP'), for example...  as for the file transfer protocols,
their availability and suitability will depend on your HardWare/SoftWare
in combination with the remote host implementations.  `{Commo}'/`ZMoDem'
seems OKay on my P-200 Mhz MMX but it doesn't "degrade" as gracefully as
`Kermit' on more modest systems (unless `BBBS-Kermit'/`WC-Kermit' is the
only alternative to it)...  I have 8088 PCs and later, let me know about
your setup and i'll try to tell you what .ZIP cps rate you can dream of.

                                 ;^)

MG> ...I'll take a look at what you've got.  I'm actually using
MG> BANANACOM right now, dialed into the last remaining BBS here...

    I don't recall re-evaluating `BananaCom' in this century, i do know
i didn't retain it as a candidate when i searched for terminal emulators
with the features required for an external ~PPP~ packet-driver dialer in
any case - which was long before i switched to "Plan-B" (~TelNet~ only).

    Luckily, *IF* `BananaCom' supports ~FOSSIL~ interfacing, you should
be able to use your favourite SoftWare without much help from `{Commo}'s
`LSPPPDlr' macro:  simply generate some `SetPPP.BAT' + `LogIn.BAT' setup
thru `{Commo}'s Wizard then switch to `COMTool'.  I must testify that my
8088s made an unforgiving test-bench and that `{Commo}' sure passed this
test, though...  Who would start from the ground up anyway?  I wouldn't!

    I mention ~FOSSIL~ because i don't expect to hear about `BananaCom'
supporting ~TelNet~ internally.  Is v4 still the last realease there is?

                                   Salutations,  ;-)

                                   Michel Samson
                                   a/s Bicephale
                                   http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/


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