Subj : Pure DOS TelNet Kermit
To   : Michel Samson
From : mark lewis
Date : Thu Nov 04 2004 04:00 pm

MS> Hi Mark,

MS>      About "Pure DOS TelNet Kermit" of November 3:

ML>> ...i (finally) saw that you had uploaded a private package to me...
ML>> ...you still wanting to do/try something with it...  ...?...
MS>> I didn't change my mind...  ...though...  ...i forgot what's in...
ML>> ...you marked it as "sysop's eyes only"...

MS>      It would help if you could remind me the file-name of
MS> this archive.

KERMIT!.ZIP - with a description about gathered from carsomething in canada...

ML>> I was just not wanting you to be jaded about sending some info this
ML>> way and then nothing ever being done with it...

MS>      You must be the 3rd `OS/2' SysOp with who i discussed
MS> `Kermit' this year, so far;

this year? try in the last 2 years ;)

MS> consider that you're likely
MS> to get the better part of the deal since i
MS> identified/collected some of the needed information already
MS> and it wouldn't be a 1st time, anyway (i've been "jaded"
MS> before)...  %-)

well, the archive data is 6 june 2002 and your first logon to my system was the
month before ;)

the archive contains three .bat files and two ini files... the .bat files
appear to be executing the mskermit stuff...

ML>> My biggest problem is to decide if i should go with native OS/2
ML>> flavor of whatever or go with a DOS flavor...

MS>      That's my problem as well:  i don't run a BBS and much
MS> less `OS/2'.

i can understand... i can also understand how the BBS side settings can be
different than the user's side settings...

MS>      Here's what i learned.  `C-Kermit 5A(190)' of November
MS> 16, 1994 was the last release WITH A 16-BITS `OS/2' VERSION
MS> INCLUDED.  I can't do any test with it in a `W32' DOS box
MS> but it seems the "ReSend" feature (which would support
MS> Transfer Recovery), the passing of File Attributes and the
MS> ~REXX~ interface were finally supported there.  The LAST
MS> RELEASE was `C-Kermit 5A(191)' of April 24, 1995;  you get
MS> NO 16-BITS VERSION IN IT and don't expect too much out of a
MS> 32-Bits build because of a bug, i'm told. In short, forget
MS> about a cure for bugs introduced in `C-Kermit 5A(190)'!

depending on the bugs, they may not even come into play on some setups...

MS>      As far as i'm concerned i bet on `MS-Kermit' - a much
MS> better choice in terms of maturity:  October 12, 2003 for
MS> v3.16 and September 17, 1997 for v3.15 - and it's also the
MS> 2nd most stable DOS program i ever used...

ok...

that would also limit me to implementing the DOS version... i might have to see
if i can locate an OS/2 version like others are using... maybe i'll see about
getting hold of juge and getting hold of what he has...

MS>      If you go for the later then i recommend that you take a
MS> peek here:

MS> http://fidonet.sensationconten
MS> t.com/echomail/searchlight/f742a4263556c006.html

MS>      This late setup includes all of the ~URL~s you'd need, in
MS> any case.

MS>                                   ;-)

MS>      The one archive which i didn't include yet can be found
MS> right here:

MS>      ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/archives/cko190.zip (790
MS> Kb)

MS>      The 16-Bits `C-Kermit 5A(189)' executable CAN be tested
MS> under `W32' environments, which is important because the
MS> command-line differs a lot; the features enumerated above are
MS> absent from this older version but i'm hoping that's sufficient
MS> for me to figure out a few things from it.  ;^)

the command line is generally where i set most things to run from... i have a
few protocols that have seperate ini files referenced on their command lines,
though... hslink and hydracom being two that i can think of right offhand...

MS>      Perhaps you'd be well advised to read the related thread
MS> started in `FdN_TeleGard' by Sean Dennis, any details which i
MS> may have forgot could have been discussed out there:  Sean is
MS> also an `OS/2' SysOp, after all.

yes, i'm aware... i don't carry the telegard echo, though... might be able to
locate some info in the archives at fidosensation...

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