Subj : FTN Packet File Structure?
To : Jon Watson
From : mark lewis
Date : Thu Oct 14 2004 09:31 pm
======>>>> mark lewis, 1:3634/12 wrote:
JW> Originally to: Jon Watson
JW>> Can someone point me to a reference somewhere on the structure
JW>> of a *.pkt file? I can find bits and pieces strewn about the
JW>> Internet, but I haven't found any definitive source yet.
JW> uh... what's wrong with the FTSC documents? /they/ are the
JW> definitive documents
JW> on FTN stuffs...
JW> <<<====== end quote
argh! that quoting stuff just ain't working, man... i can't tell what you wrote
and what i wrote in your replies... the above make it look like someone other
than you wrote the first paragraph and that you wrote my part... :((
that stuff /really/ needs to have >'s put on each line to conform with what the
rest of the network is doing... :(
JW> Uh..what's wrong with them is that I haven't found them,
JW> wasn't I clear on that? Can you point me to the FTSC
JW> documents? That would be helpful.
lordy lordy, where to start...
1.
http://www.ftsc.org
2. your *C
3. most any well stocked fidonet site like mine
OB-)
======>>>> mark lewis, 1:3634/12 wrote:
JW> those control lines are in there for a reason... some
JW> of those control lines are what i was speaking of in
JW> other conversations with you on this topic...
JW> <<<====== end quote
JW> So you don't have any bright ideas for me?
JW> I'm not going to strip them out of anything leaving my system,
how can you if your system doesn't generate them?
JW> I just don't see the point in storing them in my web forums
JW> database.
i don't see why not... what's any different than storing them in a JAM, SQUish,
MSG, Hudson, EZYcomm, or other message base?
JW> I know you don't fully understand what I'm doing so
JW> just take my word for it that anything leaving my system will
JW> be a properly formatted packet.
i do fully understand, dude... but something is getting lost in the translation
from me to you...
its not what you send out but what you do with what you receive... how can you
link
MSGID: 1:3634/12@fidonet 900a0e67
REPLY: 1:134/703@fidonet 40d66fcb
back to
MSGID: 1:134/703@fidonet 40d66fcb
REPLY: 1:2800/18 314D5F0E
and that back to
MSGID: 1:2800/18 314D5F0E
REPLY: 1:2800/18 314CB451
if you don't store them somewhere??
additionally, how can your system display the message properly if it doesn't
recognise and use the CHRS and CODEPAGE control lines? and there's also the
TZUTC control line that carries the UTC offset so that the true local time of
the message's creation can be known... should i also mention the REPLYTO and
REPLYADDR control lines that tell who to address and where to send private
responses to public messages... and FWDFROM and FWDADDR and such for forwarded
messages so that a private response can be written back to the original poster
in addition to or instead of the person that did the forwarding?
i dunno... maybe i just know too much about this stuff and how it ties together
to see just bitbucketing valid information that is needed at times... i
dunno... sorry 'bout that...
like i said before... this is one of the reasons why i'm not going to try to
fit FTN stuff into a message base format that simply can't handle it...
actually, though... it can in the same way that the Hudson format does/did...
they are stored with the message bodies and not displayed by the code... then
the system can make use of them for creating replies and such and you could
even have a setting that would display them if the user turned on a/the switch
to display them... hummm... guess i've been working with JAM bases too long...
i should have seen that option before... with that in mind, i might just see
about doing something with phpBB ;)
)\/(ark
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